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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    No, Kitsap is where Shantina and her fiance live. Cowlitz Co. is where they were headed (and where Shantina grew up). Brinnon, where the grandparents live, is in Jefferson Co. Perhaps the welfare check was performed while the fiance was in Castle Rock, just to be sure that Shantina and...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    It's odd, Shantina seems to have kept making turns towards the water (on the westside, out by Boston Harbor) when she should know that you have to go away from the water to get to Castle Rock. I could see accidentally ending up at the Handy Pantry trying to get back on the freeway, since that's...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    I'd just like to reiterate that the van was in Puget Sound, which is a very large inlet of the Pacific Ocean. Olympia is at the far southern end of the sound. The water is very cold this time of year (heck, it's cold even in August). IIRC, it tends to be shallower and have fewer currents in...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    Here's a good article from today -- nothing really new, but there's a very good timeline: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/03/15/1109901/van-found-but-woman-8-year-old.html
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    What's interesting is that Cowlitz County is in southern WA, not near Olympia or Silverlake. Castle Rock IS in Cowlitz County. The finace's website says that Azriel's father lives in New York, and that the person they (Shantina, Azriel, and the fiance, who was traveling in a separate car) were...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    a new article from the Olympian, which points out that the car was found on Zangle Rd. (the location in my map immediately above), and that Shantina called her fiance at 7:30 to say that they had arrived in Olympia...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    Ok, in reading more, it sounds like the car was found in this general area (or on nearby Island View Ct.), not Gull Harbor...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    Martin Way (where the diner is) is a major thoroughfare in Olympia/Lacey, though the area of the diner is less traveled than the parts closer to central Oly or Lacey. Still, it there would be a large number of cars passing this area on a Saturday night. Gull Harbor is on the way to Boston...
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    VA VA - Kelly Catalano, 40, Chesterfield, 15 Jan 2010 - #2

    That poster just posted a follow-up and said it isn't confirmed yet, that the authorities are not even sure if the body is of a female or a male. :( http://www.topix.net/forum/source/wtvr/TF638P773VE3IL9CF/p14#lastPost
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    Identified! WA - Toledo, Skeletal remains found in field, Feb'10 - Travis Seeber

    I would think it would be easy to visually determine if remains were those of a child, and I imagine the article would mention it if they were. If this is an adult, there's a possibility it might be Nancy Moyer, missing from Tenino (30 or 40 miles away) -- here is her thread: WA WA-HIGHLY...
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    Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #11

    I believe snow cover on the ground was an issue. I don't know when the first snows were in the area, but the grass would've likely remained high until the snow weighed it down. Local posters on Find Morgan indicated that the snow had only melted a few days before her body was found. If there...
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    Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #10

    But how many other sizable farms are also within a 10 mile radius of the venue? How long would it take to properly search even 1 sq. mile, let alone all farms in the area? Note that a circle with radius of 10 mi. would have an area of over 300 sq. mi. -- that's a lot of ground to cover. How...
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    Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #10

    As a young woman of approximately Morgan's age, it would be completely normal for me or one of my friends to go to the bathroom (or another spot within a bar/concert venue) alone. I don't think this is unusual at all, or at least not cause for suspicion of her friends. Some young women are...
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    Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #10

    IIRC, local posters on Find Morgan said that the snow had melted very recently, partially due to the heavy rain.
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    Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #10

    Local posters on Find Morgan speculated that if she had been buried in a shallow grave, recent heavy rains might have uncovered the remains. I wonder when they will release the cause of death for poor Morgan?
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    Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #10

    Or perhaps Morgan was fleeing the perpetrator on foot, running toward either the farmer's house or another nearby property, and had a tragic fall or succumbed to injuries?
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    Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #10

    A poster on Find Morgan says there's another road (Blandemar) that might also provide access to the area where the body was found. This info is on page 9 of the first thread about the discovery of the body (now locked) -- not sure if I am allowed to directly link to it.
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    VA VA - Kelly Catalano, 40, Chesterfield, 15 Jan 2010 - #1

    Cell phones don't immediately switch from ringing to going straight to voice mail when the phone is turned off or otherwise deactivated -- there is a lag of many minutes to several hours, depending on the carrier.
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    Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #10

    The ReadTheHook article I linked to above was just updated with this: 12:44pm update: “I was on my tractor feeding cows on a remote part of the farm I don’t normally go to,” says the man who actually found the body, DB. But after all the rain and high winds in recent days, he...
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    Found Deceased VA - Morgan Dana Harrington, 20, Charlottesville, 17 Oct 2009 - #10

    http://www.readthehook.com/blog/index.php/2010/01/26/tragic-tale-body-of-woman-found-at-farm/ Excerpt: "The body of a blonde woman clad in dark clothing has been found at a southern Albemarle County farm, several miles from Charlottesville, according to a reliable source. With no blonde...

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