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    CA CA - Mickey Guidry, 16, San Marcos, 26 Nov 2009

    Still no sign of Mickey https://www.baltimoresun.com/sdut-no-sign-of-teen-turns-up-in-desert-search-2010mar23-story.html "Crawford said the family appreciated the volunteers’ efforts, especially the help of Moe Dubois, who was instrumental in getting searchers organized. Dubois’ daughter...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #3

    "They dusted the vehicle for fingerprints but found no new evidence, he said." http://www.theolympian.com/2010/03/17/1174911/no-new-clues-in-missing-pair.html It doesn't specify that they found only expected prints or no prints at all. I'm directionally challenged and have many times found...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #3

    I don't believe Shantina or anyone else intended to drown Azriel but it's an almost certainty that her actions put him in grave danger over the course of that bizarre night. If a child drowns in a swimming pool or other body of water, even through the gross negligence of an adult, the death is...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #3

    I'd hope her license would have been suspended and in the explanation for the suspension she'd have to indicate it had been a DUI. I found this on an attorney's site (haven't fact checked source): Deferred Prosecution Conditions The required two-year substance addiction treatment program is...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #3

    This is the Boy Scouts Adult application (pdf): http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/28-501.pdf It states a criminal background check will be done and has a place for the applicant to indicate if they've been convicted of a criminal offense and if their drivers license had been suspended. I...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #2

    According the article she got treatment in 2007 when she lost Azriel due to leaving him unattended when she passed out. If she was openly drinking as it seemed in the photos, she'd decided she didn't have a problem and the availability of treatment would not have made a difference. Rehab is not...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #2

    It's possible but homeowners in that area are fiercely protective of their beaches and shellfish. The homeowner that made the 911 call seemed primarily concerned about shellfish poaching and the environmental impact of a vehicle near his shellfish beds. It would seem the clerks that spent...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #2

    We have no idea what, if any, treatment she had or had access to. Inpatient treatment has a 1 yr success rate of less than 20%. I have recovering alcoholics in my life, none have entered inpatient treatment, despite the fact that it would have been covered by insurance. Some go or have gone to...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #2

    I'm having a really hard time having compassion for anyone other than Azriel and his (almost) step-siblings in this situation. I hope they find Shantina and are able to get toxicology results but I don't think they'll ever be able to fully piece together the pieces of this puzzle.
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #2

    It's 45-50 mi driving but on the water it's closer to 15 miles.
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #2

    At least 15 miles of waterways, zigzagging through islands.
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #2

    That's really far away... regardless, it's someone's child :(
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    Connecting JAG to Amber

    It looks like they got at least some answers yesterday: “We talked to (Escondido police), and we’re satisfied with what they told us,” McGonigle said yesterday. “Moe and I were both given an update today, and we are content for now.” Dubois added, “We did...
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #2

    It's possible that one or more of the times on the surveillance cameras are off due to the recent time change.
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    Did you watch this video? http://www.mynorthwest.com/?nid=108&sid=299525&utm It looks like a jug of white wine to me and the clerk puts it in a bag. It's possible the wine was a gift for her stepfather or she was drinking and continued to drink throughout the night.
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    In this case it wasn't the media that got it wrong. It was a Safeway and not the same stop at the Handy Pantry as someone assumed.
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    Video of prior victim

    My experience is that there would have been more people closer to the lake than on the trail going back through Westwood. As with the attack on Chelsea it was a brazen attack in daylight where someone could have approached at any time. The proximity to homes in that area and areas like it had...
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    Video of prior victim

    I'm surprised she was allowed to give the interview. Amber Dubois' parents have been quoted as saying they're under a gag order not to discuss the case and if that's correct it would seem that this victim would have also been included in the order.
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    WA WA - Shantina Smiley, 29, & Azriel Carver, 8 (fnd deceased), Olympia, Mar 2010 - #1

    If she was in a 12 step program she could have been contacting people from her past to make amends. It seems the search is back on: http://www.theolympian.com/2010/03/17/1175674/deputies-resume-search-for-missing.html

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