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I have watched the video several times now but the shorts seem to be white indeed. Not striped. So she was changed after swimming. That's logical?! No?

Thanks to Knight J. Ashton... I feel so much better now...!!! :woohoo:

As much as we don't want to admit it, and as much as we quite possible hate the fact, JB is getting in some good points today especially. If the only evidence in this case (which it isn't) was the air tests and chromotography, then the DT could very well introduce reasonable doubt. There are all...

Is anyone else scared or does anyone else get a chill when she looks (glares) at the camera? She's scary... seriously frightening. Even if I did not know her...I would be afraid of what I saw (or didn't see = lack of appropriate emotional response) in her eyes. Even in her smirks, she is evil.

Maybe GA is Caylee's father??? That would explain disassociation with pregnancy; perhaps explain a lot of things. I know this has been mentioned before and discounted but wouldn't it be a huge bombshell????

I agree. I watched it live and I thought CA was expressing pain and regret at having to tell the truth about what she did and what she thought about the smell. It wasn't a smirk in my opinion...it was a grimace. Poor CA... there are going to be a LOT of grimaces and sick to the stomachs at...

I would have agreed with you up until 10 minutes ago when I went back and listened to call number 3 again. It is very telling. It is a full color picture of how everyone's state of mind was on that night. It is the most genuine we ever saw CA or most likely ever will in the future. And then KC...

I hated watching KC's expressions during her mother's testimony. She was obviously upset about it. She kept pursing her lips. She did this quite often during Lee's testimony as well. Her eyes are really frighteningly cold. I would be afraid if I had to testify against KC. I thought it was...

What a great thread by the way! After reading all of the posts, I have to inject another angle to this great topic. We are discussing Caylee "tattling" on KC which is very interesting and I'm surprised we didn't have a thread on this earlier :) But, conversely, if Caylee were talking with...

While reading all of the lies he's told and wild goose chases he's sent LE and the Holloway family on it occurred to me that Joran and Casey would be a match made in heaven. Perhaps we can get Casey extradited to Peru?? I would love to see her cope with Castro Castro... ;o)

If he only would have stopped at "what am I going to do now?" and called an ambulance or a doctor. Radical solution.

Ha ha ha :o) Sassy!! Yes... I'm at WORK even :o) (short night - too much JVDS on my brain)

I think both Anita and Joran have been victimized by Paulus. JMO of course.

nearly 1.30 a.m. in the Netherlands!!! Work tomorrow...AND Netherlands against Denmark in our poule opener! So... good night all. Fine sleuthing!

Add to that his propensity for addictive behavior (see: his gambling and drinking) and his feeling of entitlement and you have a very bad guy with little to no ethics or morals. I'm thinking daddy was a lot of the same. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree. There may have even been some...

I agree. And there are many lessons to be learned here. I'm sure mom and certainly dad couldn't admit that Joran, their golden child, was anything less than perfect. He has been coddled and catered to his entire life. That shows in his arrogancy and narcissism. Yes, the system failed him but...

OT but interesting just the same, A wrongly convicted nurse, Lucia de Berk, spent 7 years in prison prior to being released in april of this year after she won her appeal to the Supreme Court. The media and everyone in the Netherlands was basically sure that she had done it. They called her the...

I can only proffer guesses but it could have to do with privilege that he felt and experienced within his own family situation on Aruba. In addition, his mother was in denial and may have been very submissive to his father. He's basically a spoiled brat. Take that and an inherent sociopathic...

WOW good picture! I wonder if his hand is so swollen because he hit her so hard. It looks like it's really swollen and that there is some dried blood on his arm. either that or the Peruvian LE was a little bit rough on him. Hmmmm...

Hi Rotterdam! You spent your first 23 years in the Netherlands I spent my second 23 here! haha! I emigrated when I was 23...I am now 46. That's kind of funny :o) And, I agree with you. The Dutch are more modest than anything else. We all know about "sticking our head up out of the mowing...