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I don't think she was set up to fail, but failure of a lie detector means nothing at all. I took one when I was 19 to clear my name when a purse with some money in it turned up missing at this house where this other guy and I made a furniture delivery. I said, "Sure, I'll take the test." And...

Considering that they don't have don't have any forensic evidence, LE has no choice but to consider what these people say. In coming up with tentative explanations here, we have no choice except to consider what these people are saying, including Misty. When Misty, Tommy, Chelsea, and Grandma...

Yeah, but if she doesn't know what happened, that does not depend on her being in a blackout or amnesia. It depends on her not being aware, and people who are passed out are not aware, and that explanation is more simple than amnesia. One reason it's more simple is that I don't think we know...

Yes, she definitely could have been very lucid. It might be a bit like if you had stayed up one night, all night. The next morning you don't feel yourself at all, but you are not incoherent. Let's say you sleep an hour and something wakes you up--you still wouldn't be incoherent, at least not...

I do not believe she was blacked out. The drugs that we have reason to believe she was using do not result in black outs. By the term "black out", I mean, having been awake but with no memory. I think it is very possible she could have been passed out so cold that somebody could have come...

The drugs on the 3 day binge--odds are she did nothing she hadn't done before. The thing is that somebody coming off a three day binge can appear very normal upon a casual observation. Believe it or not, somebody who just took a hit off a crackpipe or somebody who just took the spike out of...

I could be hearing things, but in this interview, at about 1:37, Art asks, Art: So she was doing cocaine that night? WBG:Yeah, yeah, needles and all kinds of $hit. Art: Say what again? WBG: Shooting pills and all kinds of . . .. The last three lines are between 1:43 and 1:50. Ir...

When I saw them searching that river, "Good luck" was all I thought. After being in a river for more than a year, odds were never good for them coming up with anything. That was just an example of, "no stone unturned", I guess. They'll probably have to make this case on something other than...

Hey, I might be wrong, but IIRC, Kimster said anybody could start individual threads on any of the individual tapes.

Amnesia (blackout) is a documented side effect of, among many others, Ambien and Halcyon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambien http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triazolam And just from what I've seen--people generally crash hard after a three day binge. From what I've seen all they want to do is...

I agree completely. It would be impossible to overestimate her propensity to lie, not to mention her great ability to lie. But considering that she's a drug abuser, it is possible that she was passed out cold. If she were passed out cold, odds are still that she has known something for a...

That quote was from 10 or 12 days after Haleigh disappeared. A lot has come up since that time that probably changes that, and they've apparently developed some interest in Joe since that time, enough at least to try to interview him at 11:30 at night in TN.

Yeah, and Misty could have lawyered up she'd be as free as Joe is today.

Is there a link to LE saying that Joe is not a suspect or POI?

My belief about things pointing to Joe is based on a lot more than the accusations of two known and very committed liars. And I don't believe they've ever been scared of Joe either. Haleigh could have been killed accidentally, by Misty. But this isn't very likely, at least I don't think so...

I don't know if there's any point in my listening to the Misty tapes unless I'm seeking to be even more baffled--I know she is capable of fooling me and has fooled me.

Misty has more reason to be afraid of LE than she does of Joe, and if she had stayed in TN with Joe and lawyered up along with Joe, she would have been as safe from Putnam County LE as Joe is. More and more evidence keeps appearing that Misty and Tommy are not afraid of Joe, which proves...

They don't appear to be afraid of Joe because they weren't afraid of Joe. I don't think they were a bit scared of him at all. None. Not one bit. There is a mountain of evidence, all over the place, that they weren't scared of Joe. But thing thing is, the theory that Joe is very, very...

Tommy and Misty said they feared Joe. But indications all over the place are that they did not fear him at all. The theory that Joe is responsible doesn't in any way depend on Misty or Tommy being afraid of Joe. I believe that a lot of things point to Joe, but I've never considered Tommy and...

If he met with LE for only 30 minutes in his last session, he was almost certainly refusing to answer questions. His attorney's view is Joe's cooperation is probably quite a bit different from LE's view of Joe's cooperation. I don't believe Putnam County LE went all the way to TN to meet...