17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #9

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He was close to home, would they let him change there? And if he did could he have washed down in the sink, or is that a big no no? Trying to make sense of why it appears there is no blood on him or his clothes in the video (other then his pants being on fire from lying)

That would be a really big no no, when they collect clothes for evidence it has to be done in a specific fashion, Just like when you have to collect clothing after a sexual assault. Unless they had the kit with them when they were at the scene then they could not have let him go home to change or clean up, and that would have been another gaffe, since they are supposed to photograph while the person is still wearing the clothes first.
 
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If GZ had a broken nose there would have been blood all over his shirt. As I said in the last thread, I got hit in the nose, it didn't break, but it swelled up and bled non stop until it was packed by a dr. My shirt was covered in blood. The er dr. told me its normal for a nose to bleed allot when hit hard enough. GZ had no blood on his shirt in the LE video .Now maybe LE let him change his shirt before being taken into custody, which is a huge no, no if they did , but then this whole non investigation has been a nightmare so..

He's wearing a red jacket. Maybe it was zipped up at the time of the confrontation? You certainly couldn't see blood on the red jacket in that fairly grainy video.
 
Well, it will be interesting if my assessment of where the wounds are, and the size of the circle is correct then. i'm not just guessing, I can see it. If you picture the back of his head as a round ball, and imagine dead center, it's not there. It's about halfway between the top of his skull and the median point.

I saw something that was dark and a circle but I could not tell if it was part of his head or if it was a bruise.
 
Anyone think he had a white tshirt on and in the struggle his coat got pulled off. LE on the scene took his tshirt and a neighbor gave him another to wear? Just throwing things out there.
 
We don't know what he was wearing other than the jacket. He may have very well had another jacket in his vehicle.

If they would release the dash cams, we would know for certain what he was wearing at the scene.
 
Yes, he is clearly in custody, and in handcuffs while they are doing the preliminary investigation.

The earlier outrage that the cops just did a quick look-see at the scene and let everyone go about their merry way were completely incorrect. He's at the police station in handcuffs. And then they took his clothes from him before allowing him to leave.

He is being led into a room to talk to a narcotics officer.
 
Well, it will be interesting if my assessment of where the wounds are, and the size of the circle is correct then. i'm not just guessing, I can see it. If you picture the back of his head as a round ball, and imagine dead center, it's not there. It's about halfway between the top of his skull and the median point.

One spot does not = bruised and battered and fighting for his life.
 
Your computer must be better than the networks viewing capabilities too.....they didn't see bruises or blood either.

I don't see a whole lot either, but just a point on the media, it's pretty obvious the way they want to steer this story. May be ultimately the truth anyway, but it's still sensationalism.

When the Duke lacrosse story broke down, you couldn't find the media anymore on that story except locally.
 
They're leaking everything else, somebody needs to leak the dash cam.
 
He is being led into a room to talk to a narcotics officer.

I'm not quite sure what you're saying -

I don't know what type of officer he was being led in to talk to, but he was going there in handcuffs. It's not like they were offering him coffee and trying to get his opinion of things as a witness who is totally in the clear and free to leave.
 
Just out of curiosity, how does clothing collection normally go? I find it hard to believe they make homicide suspects strip down right in the middle of the scene to prevent any and all contamination. If they have to transport the suspect, what do they do?

AFAIK, the rear of a police car is supposed to be cleared and verified after every call (when they haul someone) to ensure there's no cross-contamination between subjects. Would that not be enough to reasonably preserve the evidence until it can be properly collected?
 
I have watched the video of GZ at the police station about 100 times and there is no way GZ was "ATTACKED" or "In a fight for his life" No way IMHO
 
One spot does not = bruised and battered and fighting for his life.
One does not have to be bruised, battered, or fighting for their life in any medical sense to consider themselves in fear of peril of death or great bodily harm.
 
He is being led into a room to talk to a narcotics officer.

I was wondering too if this was a sarcastic comment or you actually knew that was the narcotics officer? And if so how hmmm???? Jk ;)
 
One spot does not = bruised and battered and fighting for his life.

I agree, I just do not see evidence there of a person fighting desperately for his life and if he did have a bloody nose, it is amazing that there was no blood anywhere else on his face, (EMT's do not clean that up) not down his neck, or on the shirt. Further, his nose did not even appear to be swollen and generally with a broken nose in the 15 minutes it would take to get from the scene of the shooting to the police station his nose would be hugely swollen, and possibly under and around his eyes as well as blood....

No, His clothes aren't even mussed, IMO JMHO and stuff.
 
Cut knuckles from hitting someone in the mouth, or scraped from slamming someones head into the cement over and over. Hitting the cement because the persons head moved.

If TM was on top of GZ slamming his head onto the cement when GZ shot him why was TM's body found lying in the grass and not on the sidewalk? Is this some of the evidence that the homocide detective was talking about??? jmo
 
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