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Finished watching my DVR recording of the show from Saturday night and wanted to share some thoughts.
First wanted to congratulate a job well done to all involved with the production of "The Killing Season". It was very well done and did a great job to help summarize a very complex case.
Below are some of the things that stood out to me while watching in no particular order.
-I agree with others in the thinking that LISK could be either LE or Ex-LE person because of multiple reasons. Including that it appears that
LISK has experience with evidence collecting methods because some bodies were attempted to avoid identifying.
Also, the girl that disappeared from Madison Square Garden area has me thinking maybe a LE officer made a fake arrest to get her to his vehicle.
My understanding is she was on her way out of the area and yet she disappeared from an area where there is usually a lot of people around.
The only way I can see that happening without raising suspicion is if LISK was in uniform and faked an arrest. The area around the garden typically always has people around. It would be very risky for LISK to make his move there unless he had a ruse like LE uniform.
-The use of burlap is interesting. One thing I have not seen discussed is that burlap allows air to penetrate. It "breathes". Which allows
a corpse to "rot" more naturally with less odor. On the phone calls to the sister LISK said he was going to watch her sister "rot". This tells me
he was using the burlap in a special way because he had to keep the bodies close by until he found just the right time to dump them permanently.
So maybe he had to keep them in his basement or garage or outside his house until he found his chance to be able to dump them permanently without being seen.
-The non release of the 911 call. This is very important and LE needs to explain why this has not been done at least for the families. Something is very important in that regard and it ties to the potential identity of LISK IMO. Could the tape have incriminated LE?
-IMO I do not necessarily think there are two killers. I believe the person may have just gotten bolder and bolder and decided he did not have to
take extremes like he did before. If there is more than one killer then I think it may just be one or two victims. I feel the majority of the victims are from one killer and that he did not always dismember them once he got comfortable with not being caught.
I am new to websleuths as well. I am absolutely intrigued by the show on A&E. I am in North Carolina and i do not recall ever hearing about these events. Which to me is very sad. I teared up a few times while watching this imagining the torture the families go through daily of the unknown. I am a mother of a 2 and 3 year old and could never imagine the horror of losing a child. I am praying for these victims and their families and i will continue to pray. May we help to give all of the families peace and find the person/person's who have caused such heart ache and loss.
Oh we tried...
I have rolls of burlap. I use it for wrapping up the fig trees in winter.
So I know landscapers use it.
It's possible he is in LE but it's also possible he is anything else. There's no direct evidence given out stating either. Just theories.-I agree with others in the thinking that LISK could be either LE or Ex-LE person because of multiple reasons. Including that it appears that
LISK has experience with evidence collecting methods because some bodies were attempted to avoid identifying.
Also, the girl that disappeared from Madison Square Garden area has me thinking maybe a LE officer made a fake arrest to get her to his vehicle.
My understanding is she was on her way out of the area and yet she disappeared from an area where there is usually a lot of people around.
The only way I can see that happening without raising suspicion is if LISK was in uniform and faked an arrest. The area around the garden typically always has people around. It would be very risky for LISK to make his move there unless he had a ruse like LE uniform.
I am intrigued by all the speculation regarding the use of burlap (and who might be a user of burlap or have ready access to it). Not to be too glib, but in thinking about it this morning I was reminded that Martha Stewart is a huge user of burlap.JANUARY 8, 2014
Wrapping The Farm In Burlap!
I am a firm believer in covering boxwood shrubs and other plants that may suffer damage from winter's frigid winds and heavy snow with burlap. This is a practice I've followed for many years and it offers tremendous peace of mind, knowing that branches won't be spayed and misshapen, or even broken from wet snow and ice. The trick is to get this task done before the elements of winter can do any harm ... As usual, I commend my crew!
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Obviously I am not suggesting that Martha has any involvement but I do think that the suspect has some relationship to a gardening or nursery industry. Someone first mentioned the notion a few days ago and it has stuck with me ever since.
Maybe perp keeps his own " green house" masks or explains odour by saying he is using compost/manure for growing.
He could be an architect who works in an office in the city, and in the summer months oversees his landscaping and other design projects " out in the field."
speculation.
Do you think when they were on hold, he was calling his lawyer?
Either way..he didn't seem too surprised or even ticked. I would be mad ticked.
Maybe you're absolutely right, dotr, as the expert in Rachel and Josh's first two episodes of "The Killing Season" mentions, some low risk work area, maybe where he composts or something, functions unnoticed or is able to restrict being observed? Maybe sets out for his placements during storms, during desolate turbulent times, when he may have been more certain of where exactly he would not lose his trophies, have them wash away, placing his trophies after the remains have not much left for carrion feeders. This precise sadist did not want his trophies moved, his presentations. I wonder if he liked arts and craft as a child? I wonder if ran into anyone during those times, if he stood out, over time? Pure speculation.
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That's a very possible match. On Colleen's page DNA tab it says
Sample submitted - Tests complete
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8724/0/
But this can be misleading because comparisons are not automated. That means they put the DNA on the database but comparisons are manually done.
Here's a quote I got from a Namus officer
"All comparisons request has to go through the agency that's investigating the specific case."
If I were you, I would try to contact the LE Agency and push hard. Ready to give a hand if you need help.
Someone should go talk to Joel Rifkin about what he thinks is going on out there. Bet he has some useful insight.
"People are raped, robbed, murdered every day around the world by being drugged by Devils Breath (Scopolamine).
The perp has no need to have the victim know them to get close or intimate with them either. It can be put in a drink, blown in the victims face, or just touched to their face for a fraction of a second. There is no more evil drug. Hence the name."
rbbm.
Thinking about the kind of person who would " stand out " without standing out, and whom people generally do not pay much attention to, is a homeless person.
They (he) could be out there all covered up in rags or coats and hat, bearded or face dirtied making identification difficult
and perhaps most importantly, be pushing/pulling a cart filled with stuff.
just speculating..
Maybe you're absolutely right, dotr, as the expert in Rachel and Josh's first two episodes of "The Killing Season" mentions, some low risk work area, maybe where he composts or something, functions unnoticed or is able to restrict being observed? Maybe sets out for his placements during storms, during desolate turbulent times, when he may have been more certain of where exactly he would not lose his trophies, have them wash away, placing his trophies after the remains have not much left for carrion feeders. This precise sadist did not want his trophies moved, his presentations. I wonder if he liked arts and craft as a child? I wonder if ran into anyone during those times, if he stood out, over time? Pure speculation.
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