Recovered/Located AL - Casey White, prisoner, & Vicky Sue White (Deceased), CO w/sher office, Lauderdale, 29 Apr'22 *Reward* #5

[TootsieFootsie]

I think she fell in love with him.
With both of them in prison, she knew she would most likely never see him again.

 

[vls12345]

Another random thought.

I am appalled at the posters who admit that they secretly wanted to see them get away with it.

This man is a convicted criminal and by all accounts a terrible human being. And I bet you wouldn't be saying that if it had been your dog he shot.

I don't think many are hoping they would secretly get away with it. (At least here on WS. I haven't checked SM threads/commentary.)

I think some do feel some empathy for VW for various reasons. And while not condoning her choices, they can still say that they can see why she would choose her path (even if it was recently filled with extremely flawed decision-making). By extension, it perhaps does provide a less stringent view on CW, just as folks try to understand VW's empathy toward CW. That doesn't mean people are giving CW a pass or ignoring that he committed crimes and should be in prison serving his time.

I am not sure I am explaining it well. I guess I see a lot of this as tragic with many mistakes/issues/problems that all contributed to this entire chain of events. And that some can empathize with a seemingly upstanding, good person making a string of massively bad decisions. Nobody wants that to happen. You want to root for the good, try to understand when it goes off the rails, .... With respect and humbleness, that's just what I am reading from some of the posts.

Jmo.

 

[SBurrus]

I am slapping myself for following this case with such intensity and interest for so long...and then MISSING the climax. Just now catching up on things and have not read through all 16 pages of this new thread, so pardon if I mention things already mentioned by others.

With Vicky dead, we will only hear Casey's version of events, and can he be trusted to give honest answers?

So many unanswered questions, but the main two I think about:

1) Why, oh why, did Vicky even mastermind this plan and give up what could have been a relaxing retirement? Was there a terminal illness? Was it love..or what she thought was love? A maternal instinct?

2) The biggest mystery: Why did they hang around the Evansville, Indiana area for so long? Based on the image taken from the car wash, it was at least 6 days!

Now....some comments:

3) My judgement was so off on where Casey and Vicky ended up going. I was sure they were safely ensconced in a mountain cabin somewhere in the southeast.

4) The man in the image at the car wash was Casey White...and I was sure it wasn't him.

5) Kudos to Law Enforcement for ending this event with noone being injured except Casey and Vicky White. And Casey ended up with just minor injuries. It appears the t-bone occurred so that the contact was concentrated on the passenger door of the sedan, so as to minimize potential harm to Vicky, who was driving.

I'm sure some other things will come to mind as I work through this new thread...but these are things on my mind at the present time.

Although this was a serious situation, I enjoyed getting into possible theories and discussing this case with the many others on WebSleuths. Good job, everyone!

 

[MissMalowe]

Thank you for understanding. I appreciate that.

Skimming over the posts I'm way behind on, I feel as if I'm seeing too much judge of Vicky and very little judge of Casey.

Know this wasn't directed at me as the threads have moved so fast, I don't think I've even commented since Thread 2 or 3, but figured I would respond anyway, since your comment (I think) can lead to an interesting discussion.

I'm judgemental of both. However, he's been a long time criminal. Once you've admitted to murder, what else is there that you can do that would shock or surprise people or cause more judgement? To me, he's less interesting to ponder and discuss (or judge) He's simply a bad guy still doing bad guy things.

Vicky, however, seemed to be a good employee, a law abiding citizen, responsible, etc Things seemed to suddenly and rapidly change for her, and at an age and time in her life when it's not usually common to change so drastically and in such a bad way. So, I find her more interesting in terms of the hows and whys.

The judgemental part (for me) comes from a place of her being a bit like a wolf in sheep's clothing; Because of her job, it's almost a feeling of betrayal to society. She is supposed to help keep citizens protected and safe from "the bad guys" instead, she did the opposite and purposely let a dangerous criminal loose. He's been a wolf in wolfs clothing for a long time, so no one expects good, law abiding behavior from him. That's why I judge her more than him; because I expected better from someone like her than I do from someone like him.

 

[Sundog]

Regardless of what he called her shortly before she shot herself, it seems that he has a good argument claiming that she took him out of prison and more or less kidnapped him without his consent. There's nothing to suggest that didn't happen. He couldn't run from her because he was an escaped convict, described as armed and dangerous, who could very likely be shot by the first person to see him. It was safest for him to remain with her.

As for pension, I understand that she would not be eligible for her work pension due to criminal choices, but is there a State or federal pension that she automatically qualifies for? That is, if they were married, does he qualify for her state or federal pension?

Her work pension is a state pension, and she would have had to name a beneficiary such as husband or child. With some state pensions, you can name a parent, in other states it is limited to a spouse or children. She lost the pension's monthly payments for life, but still was eligiible for a refund of the money she put into it over the years she worked for the state, plus interest. I would think that her mother would receive that now that VW is gone, unless she was legally married to CW.

 

[concernedmother]

Local news at 10. LE was watching the car. VW came out and got something out of the car. She was wearing a wig. She went back inside. They didn't want to charge in due to them being armed. Then both came out and that's when the chase began. Sounds like he was grazed by her gunshot. He was treated at the hospital and released. He's in jail. They are questioning him tonight and he is cooperating.

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1523864115357360129

 

[BeckyF]

VW actions were wrong, and had she survived, she absolutely should have been prosecuted to the full extent of the law and sent to prison for a very long time. But beyond that, I can't bring myself to to pass moral judgment on her as a human being. The fact that she made a terrible choice with life-altering consequences does not negate the fact that she had friends and family who cared about her and who will in all likelihood never get good answers to why she did what she did. I also doubt that there will be much of any estate left for her next-of-kin.

Thank You for saying this.

 

[elisimo]

Agree with Azure in that I am shocked they were not in some broken-into cabin way up in the Smokies, with him hunting and fishing and with $90K in $20s ready for the future. Evansville, Indiana with an abandoned car in a car wash bay? After all that?

I think they encountered major obstacles along the way. Or possibly, they didn’t plan much beyond the actual escape. I would love to know more about what kept them in Evansville for several days.

 

[thesaint]

Her work pension is a state pension, and if she would have had to name a beneficiary such as husband or child. With some state pensions, you can name a parent, in other states it is limited to a spouse or children. She lost the pension's monthly payments for life, but still was eligiible for a refund of the money she put into it over the years she worked for the state, plus interest. I would think that her mother would receive that now that VW is gone, unless she was legally married to CW.

VW has never been and never will be convicted of any crime. It's going be an uphill battle for the State to deny survivor pension benefits to anyone who might be eligible among her survivors. e.g., if Casey turns out to have married her.

 

[caradana]

VW has never been and never will be convicted of any crime. It's going be an uphill battle for the State to deny survivor pension benefits to anyone who might be eligible among her survivors. e.g., if Casey turns out to have married her.

Agree with @thesaint on his or her legally sophisticated point. No one wins if Alabama tries to legally pursue not paying - and if a couple grand a month that would otherwise have gone to nonexistent kids goes instead to a mother who is in utter devastation and deep shame, I consider that to be some of the most noble money Alabama pays. I would feel no pride as an American if this woman suffers further now. Had VW lived it would have been hundreds of thousands in state-paid Medicare bills for a vegetative prisoner. Let’s all call it a benevolent deal and hope her mom can live in some peace.

 

[thesaint]

2) The biggest mystery: Why did they hang around the Evansville, Indiana area for so long? Based on the image taken from the car wash, it was at least 6 days!

Maybe VW had arranged for them to get married in Indiana and it took that long for the paperwork to come through/get an appt with a Justice of the Peace? VW supposedly has some connection to Elkhart, Indiana.

 

[azure]

So what if she didn't have a great love of her life?I haven't and many women don't and survive without a man in their life.

Yeah, no offense to anyone, but the take I do not want to hear right now is "I have so many wonderful things in my life and Vicky obviously didn't". JMO but checking society's boxes of a husband, kids, and McMansion isn't a failproof recipe for happiness.

Also, she definitely made a bad decision, but she's dead, and we don't need to hear about how and why your life is better than hers was right now.

 

[LinasK]

Yeah, no offense to anyone, but the take I do not want to hear right now is "I have so many wonderful things in my life and Vicky obviously didn't". JMO but checking society's boxes of a husband, kids, and McMansion isn't a failproof recipe for happiness.

Also, she definitely made a bad decision, but she's dead, and we don't need to hear about how and why your life is better than hers was right now.

I don't see it that way. I think it's a counter to defending her with "There but for the Grace of God go I".

 

[azure]

Agree with Azure in that I am shocked they were not in some broken-into cabin way up in the Smokies, with him hunting and fishing and with $90K in $20s ready for the future. Evansville, Indiana with an abandoned car in a car wash bay? After all that?

And a HOTEL, my god. The one place where you can be 99% sure at least one person and a bunch of cameras will see you every time you come and go!

 

[charminglane]

I wonder what happened to the tanning bed when Vicky moved in with her Mother?
And also-did she tan for the last 5 weeks somewhere or give up on it?

 

[BeckyF]

I shall retire early this evening but not before saying a prayer for VW's mother who will assuredly pass with a broken heart. As a mother whose heart aches, if it had been my daughter, just bury me on top of her for it would most assuredly kill me.

Sheryl McCollum said on TGs video this evening: "Look at the huge home where VW lived yet there was not one flower in sight." I wondered, what beauty did VW see in life that she'd willingly sell her home for half its value? And, not have one colorful, fragrant flower in sight. Perhaps she was obssessed with CW until he became her every thought.

None of this: endangering the lives of citizens in multiple states, etal, would have occurred if the Sheriff's Dept had followed proper protocol that fateful morning. That is part of the story I shall carry with me.

Ditto

 

[Hoosier952]

If he cared for her, then it would make sense for him to call her his “wife” after watching her pull the trigger. If he wanted money, he could have claimed marriage later. “Wife” was one of the first things he said. My gut says he actually cared for her. After all, he could have killed her the second day and took off with her guns and the money, but he didn’t. Maybe that’s why Vicky trusted him. Maybe she could tell he really cared.

This is why I'm having a hard time believing he didn't have some kind of connection with her. He doesn't strike me as the type who would think about the benefits of having Vicky with him. It doesn't seem like anything they chose to do was taking advantage of having Vicky there vs the two of them just being together.

 

[Lillymac]

Local news at 10. LE was watching the car. VW came out and got something out of the car. She was wearing a wig. She went back inside. They didn't want to charge in due to them being armed. Then both came out and that's when the chase began. Sounds like he was grazed by her gunshot. He was treated at the hospital and released. He's in jail. They are questioning him tonight and he is cooperating.

Did they say who was driving? I've heard different accounts.

 

[KBlackRabbit]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1523855635850350592

All of that planning and he didn’t think to wear long sleeves to hide his tats or wear a long-haired wig to cover his distinctive ears. Going to a motel? Holy facepalm, Batman.

Not at all surprised about them having a truck, other platforms had been buzzing the last few days about a “black truck” associated with them.

Did he care for her? Enough that when he got out of the car his main concern wasn’t that she was shot but that he wasn’t to blame. So, no.

No urgency in the departing ambulances, she probably died at the scene.

Sad end, I feel sorry for her mother and coworkers.