Hello WS
Annie D. Interview with LE
LE: Let me simplify this if, if I may for a second.
Did you watch any of this on TV? It's hard not to, I mean there's, its all over the(inaudible).
AD:
I, I actually don't at all.
LE:
You haven't seen any of it?
AD:
Uh, no, not, not for the last few months.
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LE: Is there anything that, that, that uh, you think that we need to know before we start asking our questions. What we're tying to do here is see the level of co-operation or information that your willing to give us freely before we start asking direct and pointed questions.
AD: In regards to?
LE: Her and her lifestyle and the baby.
AD:
Uh, I think that the media, whether its you or the media, has put her out to be somebody who I don't now her to be.
LE: Okay
AD:
But again, we weren't really the best of friends when all this happened.
LE: Okay fair enough.
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Paraphrased: In high school I knew who she was, knew who her friends were, but was not friends with her.
LE:
What was she like in high school?
AD:
Athlete
LE: Uh-hum
AD: Uhm, socially I really didn't know her.
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AD: The last couple of months of '06, the first three to five months of '07. No, because I still went to Caylee's birthday.
So the end, end of '06, beginning of '07 to a few months after Caylee's birthday is when we were very good friends.
LE: A few months after Caylee's birthday...
AD: Second birthday.
LE: ...last year in '07?
AD: In '07
LE: Okay
AD: Two years ago
LE:
Two years ago. So you guys were best friends for about a year roughly?
AD:
Roughly, yes.
LE: And did you ever live together at all?
AD: No sir
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Paraphrased: In '06 living at Sawgrass with "ex-boyfriend Dante"
AD:
Uhm, she was definitely to me more than a, more of a homebody.
LE: So she was best friends with you but you didn't have the same group of friends or...?
AD: No, no, no, we do. We, we do...
LE: Okay
AD:
...have the same group of friends but she never went out because she had Caylee.
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Okay. We do, we talked to him. And we asked him about this conversation. And he narrowed it down that this took place roughly the middle to end of 2007. And I want to say last year, but I know it's now tow years ago. Uhm, does this, the reason I asked you the question before is based on, partially based on this sheet right over here where it says,
"I can hit my friend Annie up for some Zanax." Why would Casey be telling people that she could hit you up for Zanax? Why would she say that to people?
AD:
I don't know. Uh, and she knew I had a prescription for it. Whether or not she thought I could, I would give it to her is beyond me.
LE:
And you're saying you never gave her any Zanax?
AD:
No sir
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LE: And did you ever give it to anyone,
did you ever give Zanax pills of your, from your prescription to anyone else?
AD:
Yes sir
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Paraphrase: Annie has to say Dean D. is the one she gave them to and begins to cry.
LE: Can I add some additional on a statement you just made? Uhm, if you went out she, she wouldn't drink very much because she'd have to be home because of the baby?
AD: Yes sir
LE: Did you, what's your, did you have any knowledge of phone calls that Cindy would make to her while you were out, or was there any(inaudible)
AD:
It happened frequently. Cindy would call...
LE: Okay
AD:
...frequently. "What time are you going to be home? Why are you out so late?"
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LE: What was note...what was her general attitude towards that?
AD: Most of the time,
apparently she lied to her mom all the time, saying, "I'm at work, I'm at work," while she was out. I found that out later she was always saying that she was at work. Uhm, I'm sorry.
LE: It's okay
AD: Uhm, and her mom would just call,
"where are you? When are you going to be home?" You know, "I want to go to bed." I want, you know and she wanted her home to take care of her own daughter. Uhm...
LE: And you witnessed this how many times do you think? Or was this so commonplace that...
AD:
I would, yeah I was, it was, her mom would call almost every single time we were out. She'd yell at her for one thing or anther to see where she was at.
LE: so, uh, and...
LE: What do you mean to, to yell? I'm sorry.
AD: (sighs) I, I know a lot of the truth now. Like for instance, uhm, when I graduated from UCF Casey was going with me to my graduation. And uhm, on my way to graduation Casey, Casey's mom called and said, "You need to get home now." And so she had a conversation with her mother. She said she had to leave.
Uhm, and uh, Casey told me, "Oh, my mom was mad at me because I didn't register for Valencia classes. " When I found out later from her mother that it was really because they found a credit card statement where Casey spent a lot of their money. So...
LE: What date was that on? Do you remember?
AD: August '07. I don't know the exact date but it was, yeah because I graduated four years after I graduated high school, so Aug of '07. It was definitely in the summer.
LE: Did uh, does Casey ever men...ever talk about that...
AD: Stealing money?
LE: ...at the time to you and...
AD: No, absolutely not.
LE: Something you learned after the fact?
AD: I had no clue.
LE: When did you find this out?
AD: (sighs)
Right after Caylee went missing. Um, we would have conversations with her parents and that's when I found out a lot about Casey that I didn't know.
LE: After Caylee went missing, or after Casey went to jail?
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AD: After July 16th.
LE: Okay
AD: Shortly after July 16th.
LE: So uh, solidify the event from Aug there 2007, did she actually have to turn around an leave your graduation and go home?
AD: She rode with me.
Uhm, her ex-boyfriend, Jesse G. came and picked her up and brought her home because I obviously had to go to graduation.
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LE: But you witnessed other phone calls where you would go out from...
AD: And her mom would just ask;
"where are you? where are you?"
LE: And that was how often?
AD:
Honestly, I think it, uh, I think it happened probably every time we went out.
LE: Every time?
AD: E
very time we went out her mom would call at least once.
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Paraphrased: Annie says they went out approx once a month.
LE: How would you describe her relationship with her mother?
AD:
Again, something I thought was a different relationship. She, Casey made it seem like her mother was this horrible person and that she's trying to control her life and take Caylee away from her, and wanted Caylee to call Cindy gram, or mom instead of grand mom. And from Cindy it wasn't like that.
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AD: All the time. I mean her mom, I mean she used her mom always. Like I remember Caylee's second birthday party we were sitting down opening presents and Cindy was helping. And she, Casey goes,
Casey was getting so upset, you know, "This is my daughter. This is my daughter and my mom's trying to take her" you know, "tying to take my, my job out of it." Her mom was trying, Cindy was trying to play mom instead of letting Casey play mom.
LE: And this is in front of everybody?
AD: Um-hum
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AD: No they, she wasn't arguing about it. She just, Casey just pulled me aside...
LE: Okay
AD: ...and was like,
"I'm so upset" you know, "my mom's doing this, my mom's doing that." And she was just upset by it and it was her daughter's second birthday.
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LE: ...she went out to go shopping or whatever, who would watch Caylee?
AD: I assumed it was her mother.
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LE:
So you couldn't, you couldn't swear that you ever heard Casey Anthony refer to the nanny? You couldn't swear 100%?
AD:
One time I know for sure, July 5th, eleven days before she was ar...I understand she was arrested on the 16th, correct?
LE: Uh-hum
AD: So July 5th was the last time I saw her before she was arrested.
She definitely mentioned that day, "Oh, she's with the nanny." Because I remember my dad ran into her a week or two before. Ran into Casey at a liquor store and my dad asked about Caylee.
And I said, oh you know my dad ran into you, he didn't say anything to you because he didn't know if you'd recognize him, uh, he didn't see Caylee. Uhm, I was like, was Caylee with you? And she said to me, "No, I wouldn't bring my daughter to a liquor store, are you crazy?"
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LE:
Did Casey ever tell you she was dating Jeffery Hopkins?
AD: (sighs)
Casey told me she dated a lot of people. Uhm, I don't think so, but then again I'm not,
like I said, there, there was always a different guy that she would mention. I'm not sure.
LE:
Had she ever mentioned anything about Caylee having a play buddy named Zachary, same age?
AD:
She had a play, she had a playmate that the person, okay now this is coming back to me. Someone would come over to the house and watch Caylee and bring, I thought it was a girl though.
LE: Uh-huh
AD: Uhm...
LE:
Come over to which house? Who?
AD:
Uh, her parents house.
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LE: Someone that would be there with her parents there?
AD:
No, it was when uh, they were at work, uhm that they would bring, it was a female, would bring I want to say it was a girl but another, a, a friend of Caylee's and they'd play. Because I remember her telling me she'd get mad because the house would be a wreck. She'd have to clean up after them. She doesn't do the dishes, she leaves toys everywhere, that, that's the most common story I got.
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LE:
Alright, how was her relationship with uh, her brother Lee?
AD: Uhm, they seemed to be very, very close.
LE: Did she ever mention any problems that she had with her brother?
AD: Uhm, again, knowing what I know now about her lying about so much stuff uhm...
LE:
What did she tell you at the time?
AD:
Just that she'd say Lee is trying to control her life, just like her parents were. Uhm, the basic but, for the most part they had, they appeared to have a very good relationship, like really close friends, you know older brother and younger sister. Like I've hung out with them together.
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Paraphrased: Casey never told Annie that Lee touched her.
LE: What about uhm, we'll skip to George real quick. What about George? Anything about him doing that or...?
AD: She didn't s...no, she never mentioned anything like that, no. Uhm,
she didn't have a good relationship with her father and that she did not like her father.
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LE: Lee gave you a heads up?
AD: Yes
LE: Was this before Casey got out of jail for the first time, or she had already been in and out?
AD: I think she had already been in and out, that was right after that conversation you just showed me, right after that came out.
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LE:
Lee called you and said I would be calling?
AD:
He said, "Don't protect Casey."
LE: (skip) ...or if I asked you to tell me what Casey's done that are bad, what comes to mind?
AD: Lying to everyone she knows. Uh, uh more than one, I mean she's, everything I knew or thought I knew about her was a lie. I mean...
LE: What else?
AD: Uhm, stealing money obviously.
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LE: What about you, you personally, that you personally know? Not what you've heard, but you personally...
AD: What, the lie that she said that I think is horrible.
LE: OH, about the Zanax comment?
AD: Yeah. I think that's horrible...
LE: And...(inaudible)
AD: ...because it made me look like somebody I'm not.
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AD: No she never said she went to college but that her mom wanted her to go to college.
LE:
What about uh, Caylee, as far as uh, Caylee's dad?
AD:
He died in a auto accident in 2007, August of 2007
LE: August of 2007?
AD: Uh-hum, yes sir.
LE:
Where?
AD:
Not in Florida.
LE: (skip) Do you remember what she said his name was?
AD: Eric
LE:
Eric what?
AD: I don't remember the last name.
LE:
Did she ever say where she met this Eric, or how they hooked up?
AD: That he was in town for Spring Break while she was working for Universal. She met him, they hooked up and he went back because he then shortly after started dating somebody.
It was on a break from somebody when he was down here and they hooked up, came back and then got this other girl pregnant and married her. Because to that, I believe it was a boy the other girl had, she said.
LE: Hmm
AD:
And that Caylee had a brother that, or sister, or no sibling that she wanted them to meet.
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Why would you,
why would you, why would you say somebody else was involved? Well, what would make you...
AD: I...
LE: ...is...
AD:
I just don't think Casey's that smart. I mean you guys are the be...I mean the FBI, I mean, you , you just do this for a living, and to not know, to not be able to figure out, I mean, I don't know anything more than what's on the news. I mean she's not that smart. She's just, I mean we all knew, everyone knew that Casey lied. Like everyone did, we all knew. We didn't believe her, what was the truth, we didn't know but we just, there was never, we just didn't believe her. I don't, I don't know how to anymore explain it. It's just(chuckles)...
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