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There was reference to Joran and the Kalpoe brothers as the three musketeers years ago during the initial investigation. Also, in the video with Peter de Vries and Beth, there's a re-enactment of Joran meeting with John Kelly. In the re-enactment, Joran shows up to the meeting with a 3 musketeers bar and a coke. This flashes back when Beth is giving Joran the same thing: coke and 3 musketeers bar. It may be Beth's way of trying to tell Joran that she knows everything that happened when he met with John Kelly, it may be an allusion to Joran and the Kalpoes from five years earlier. Either way, it was lost on Joran.
Joran didn't touch the chocolate bar or the diet coke during the five minutes that Beth spoke to him. At the end of the meeting, Joran picked up the diet coke and asked if he could have it. I think he left the chocolate bar on the director's desk.For the sane mind, yes. For the paranoid mind... only time will tell.
If his attorney surfaces claiming Beth tried to poison him, then ...
The candy bar is in his court. But I understand your position.
Joran didn't touch the chocolate bar or the diet coke during the five minutes that Beth spoke to him. At the end of the meeting, Joran picked up the diet coke and asked if he could have it. I think he left the chocolate bar on the director's desk.
Nobody in prison turns down a free chocolate bar. You can bride a
rat with that!
If the authorities know by now, and they're withholding the information for absolutely no good reason, I'm going to be sick - but not surprised. I'm tired of Aruba's shenanigans, and so angry that the Holloways continue to be treated so poorly. Anyone who has read Beth's book, knows what Aruban authorities have put her through. Enough, already!
Dr. Baden has said if they have the dental records, they already know whether it's Natalee or not. They've had the dental records since Tuesday according to Dave Holloway. The Aruban authorities are notorious for releasing pertinent information late Friday or on holiday weekends for obvious reasons. I'm guessing there's a great deal of 'pow wowing' going on on 'One Happy Little Island' about now.
Natalees mother released this statement today:
"There is no good answer, whether it is Natalee or whether it isn't. But no answer at all is the most unbearable. We appreciate everyone's loving care and concern and are anxious about the developments."
http://www.foxalabamanews.com/2010/11/natalee-holloways-mother-issues.html
Otto! It is like deja vu seeing you again. How nice, and I hope all is well with you. Ya YaHe doesn't touch either the milky way bar or the coke before the end of the meeting, and then asks if he can take the coke. I don't see him holding a milky way bar wrapped in a piece of paper with a picture of a musketeers bar around it. I also think that because he asked for the coke, he would have asked for the milky way bar if he wanted that too.
I think he left it on the desk.
They can get a rush on DNA/ NG or JVM had quest that stated a few days. I know from Family experience that DNA can determine father of child at lab .. it took 2 days.
Why the dental records if they knew the dna?? I am sure they have the information at this time. The only reason I can think that they are not releasing it is due to they want to try and attempt to look for more evidence or trying to decide what angle to take to charge him. I assume he will not be leaving peru.. they no way are going to let him go.. and in matter of months he is toast in that place as soon as in with general population.
One other theory that was put out there. What if the Jaw bone was placed there? I dont know why that would take place.. but odd that one bone washed up.. more to follow. I always assumed they put her in crab trap and droped her into ocean.. however crab trap cages are metal perhaps in time salt water can deteroriate the wire casing.
If it was not her I think they would of made public.
They can get a rush on DNA/ NG or JVM had quest that stated a few days. I know from Family experience that DNA can determine father of child at lab .. it took 2 days.
Why the dental records if they knew the dna?? I am sure they have the information at this time. The only reason I can think that they are not releasing it is due to they want to try and attempt to look for more evidence or trying to decide what angle to take to charge him. I assume he will not be leaving peru.. they no way are going to let him go.. and in matter of months he is toast in that place as soon as in with general population.
One other theory that was put out there. What if the Jaw bone was placed there? I dont know why that would take place.. but odd that one bone washed up.. more to follow. I always assumed they put her in crab trap and droped her into ocean.. however crab trap cages are metal perhaps in time salt water can deteroriate the wire casing.
If it was not her I think they would of made public.
There's really not too much to believe or not believe at this point. A jaw bone has been found and it has been sent to the Netherlands Forensic Institute for analysis. A preliminary forensic examination suggests that it's the bone of a female, but confirmation has to come from the NFI. Until then, there's not much to do but wait. It would be generous of the NFI to bump this bone to the top of their priority list, but there does not appear to be any urgency in making the comparison. It could be some time before results are known.
My bolding
Where did you hear there wasn't any urgency? It had only been a few days, they first were waiting to get permission to test, they had to get Natalee's dental records and the tests themselves take time.
MOO is that they do have the results, they said from the beginning that the NFI would not make any announcements about the results and all announcements will come from the Aruban authorities. If there's any holdup, that's where it is.
If they know whether it is Natalee or not and they are holding onto the information then they are revictimizing the Holloways. They need to know whether it is or isn't Natalee. I'm not sure Beth Holloway can take much more! Beth Holloway says no answer is unbearable.
http://www.aolnews.com/crime/article/beth-holloway-says-she-is-anxious-to-learn-whether-bone-is-natalees/19726501?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-n%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk2%7C185352
They can get a rush on DNA/ NG or JVM had quest that stated a few days. I know from Family experience that DNA can determine father of child at lab .. it took 2 days.
Why the dental records if they knew the dna?? I am sure they have the information at this time. The only reason I can think that they are not releasing it is due to they want to try and attempt to look for more evidence or trying to decide what angle to take to charge him. I assume he will not be leaving peru.. they no way are going to let him go.. and in matter of months he is toast in that place as soon as in with general population.
One other theory that was put out there. What if the Jaw bone was placed there? I dont know why that would take place.. but odd that one bone washed up.. more to follow. I always assumed they put her in crab trap and droped her into ocean.. however crab trap cages are metal perhaps in time salt water can deteroriate the wire casing.
If it was not her I think they would of made public.