Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sept 2014 - #17

[Bohemian]

Victoria Police's Cider House taskforce identifies almost 30 suspected child abusers, eight victims

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-...ce-identifies-suspected-child-abusers/6807982

Thanks for this link, imagining. It's interesting; given the recent debate we've been having on this thread about online predators, that the article stated the following:

BBM.

"The alleged offenders often made contact with the children, mostly aged between 14 and 16, through social media and then arranged to meet them in person, sometimes at "party houses" in the Dandenong area.

"The offenders would say, 'There's a party at my house', and once the kids go there, they realise there's a party and there's eight to 10 men there, and there's alcohol already on the table for them, they're being pressured to drink or to take drugs," Senior Constable Dalrymple said.

"Usually they're isolated in some way. They would be taken into a bedroom, or they would go to the bathroom or something like that, and they would be cornered by one of the offenders, who would then sexually assault them.

"The love, and the care, and the affection that we saw via social media, the grooming that took place before that, would completely disappear at the point of offending."

They also found it difficult to accept they were being sexually exploited, instead insisting the alleged offender was a boyfriend.

So terribly sad. It doesn't only happen to children in care but that it can happen to any child as they are all vulnerable to this type of grooming. It comes down to their trusting and innocent natures and their need to feel loved/accepted; the very qualities these 'people' rely upon to take advantage of children.

 

[Bohemian]

Not sure Crabby....

Our family went to a Pub for Lunch last week and the décor was.... well lets say freakish..

I commented to my eldest daughter that the place gave me a bad vibe......

The Pub/Hotel had a VERY large play area....which was strange to other pubs/hotels I've been at.....It had a table with actual toys - like a doctors office BUT WAY MORE TOYS ..... I said to my daughter without even turning....I bet there is a camera directly behind me?? .... she looks up without me turning...and says YEP!!!

Noticeably there was an absence of cameras elsewhere at the pub.....

Then I come on here and see someone posts those symbols..... and sure enough...a lot of the décor had the swirly symbols everywhere...

Yep.... getting paranoid now lol...

'Be alert, not alarmed' as our (now ex) PM would say. This is a great resource from NSW Police (link downloads .pdf file of document);

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&s...fe.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFOr-uQPwq9_I82jTxPGPbzwns-3w

 

[Bohemian]

*yawn* Is that the time? Nanna duties in less than 3 hours. Need more sleep fftobed:

 

[they'll get you]

Why am I seeing a likeness between these animals, Tony Jones and Bryan Edward Road? Tarred with the same brush?

Roads blames everything but himself - During the trial, Judge English said Roads laid blame “either at the feet of the victims, his ex-wife, or as a result of medication he was taking for erectile *dysfunction”.

http://www.news.com.au/national/cri...-in-tyrrell-case/story-fns0kb1g-1227544900036


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...-upheld-in-court/story-fni0cx12-1227544059502

 

[Alex1906]

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wes...-abuse-more-kids/story-fnhocxo3-1226817733653

AN inquiry has been ordered into how a convicted WA pedophile was granted bail, which allowed him to abuse three more children in a pre-prison ``binge''.

Darryl James Osborne, a father of three, was handed extra jail time by a Perth judge last week, after being convicted of abusing a six-year-old school friend of his son, and two brothers aged 11 and 12 at a public pool in a small wheatbelt town in 2011 and 2012.

All but one of the new offences were committed while he was on bail for the earlier crimes.

Judge John Gerard Staude said Osborne had told authorities he knew he was going to prison, and so he believed he had nothing to lose by abusing even more children.

Funny you should post this. I'm wondering if this is how Jones felt right before he went to jail. Why not do it for one last time?

 

[Cagney&Lacey]

Hi.

Are you Cagney or Lacey?
Am I Cagney or Lacey?

I'm having an identity crisis LOL!

oh wow, Hi!
i hadn't seen you there.
it looks like you have been around here longer so you take you pic.
BTW...Didn't you just love that show?

 

[Wexford]

Not sure if your question was answered already Wexford but there is this site which details how symbols are used by peadophiles.

http://ffkfightingforkids.weebly.com/logos-used-by-peadophiles.html

However we may try to ignore these things they are happening and personally I think, however uncomfortable they make us feel, we should know and be aware for the sake of children everywhere..

Thanks Jessie, it was less of a question and more of a statement....it occurred to me that I could have seen one of those symbols incorporated into a tattoo and not really noticed.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

oh wow, Hi!
i hadn't seen you there.
it looks like you have been around here longer so you take you pic.
BTW...Didn't you just love that show?

Haha! I totally loved it, wish they'd do some re-runs.

Anyway, nice to meet you, let's go solve some crimes

 

[Eloise]

I concur. I really don't think how far people realise cops are onto all of this. Especially online; police monitor a lot of online for crime management. Wearing a symbol would be like wearing a bullseye.

I think perhaps the symbols might change once they become public knowledge. But the symbols being talked about really were first identified by the FBI, so at least at some point they were genuine.

Maybe in our post-Internet, post-social media world, they're not even necessary anymore.

 

[bearbear]

http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/featu...e-secret-symbols-used-by-child-sex-offenders/

 

[crabstick]

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/aliceday.asp

Some paedophiles; particularly hardline activists, really don't care about being identified, they think they can outwit LE. They even celebrate a holiday called 'Alice Day' and have their own websites and BBs as well as being active on the chans. You see, they purport to 'look but not touch' and that it is society that has the problem; not them. I am not going to link their websites and forums here but, if you doubt they exist, Google search terms such as; girl/boy/child and then the word 'lover'. Some of these sites are set up by LE; some are not. If you are on FB, check out #Op Safekids. I used to be part of them and, let me tell you, I have seen some things there that I will never unsee. Be warned; If you're not careful, it will change the way you view your fellow human beings forever.

A hacker wants a job hey. Thats new A lot of the symbols in this webpage are company logos, some use on girls clothing.

I dare any bloke to wear a butterfly around their neck like that lol.

http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/featu...e-secret-symbols-used-by-child-sex-offenders/

If I was Roxy, I would be sorting this out quick smart. Talk about destroying brand positioning. Just because someone says something on the internet doesn't make it true.

Chris Tilbury is on Twitter if you want to ask him which police said Roxy brand is a paedophile symbol. Im sure Roxy will be lol

The symbols, often as easily recognisable as the Roxy Surfer girl heart logo, are used by perverts to indicate which gender of child they are “interested in”. With the spread of the internet these images are becoming ever more prevalent online. - See more at: http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/featu...-by-child-sex-offenders/#sthash.WkNvzarC.dpuf

This thread is getting way off topic.

 

[msadventure]

Why am I seeing a likeness between these animals, Tony Jones and Bryan Edward Road? Tarred with the same brush?

Roads blames everything but himself - During the trial, Judge English said Roads laid blame “either at the feet of the victims, his ex-wife, or as a result of medication he was taking for erectile *dysfunction”.

When I read that I was immediately reminded of BS's bail application judge labelling HIS ex wife of being obsessive, compulsive, bizarre etc.

 

[Karo]

I am not sure what you are suggesting re BS and the Judges comments, I think the Judge was commenting on the x's history of making allegations of that nature against other men as well, perhaps they need to address this and investigate the other persons she made the allegations about.

When I read that I was immediately reminded of BS's bail application judge labelling HIS ex wife of being obsessive, compulsive, bizarre etc.

 

[Rayemonde]

Wow, I didn't realise that info was released by the fbi - that's crazy that some paedos actually wear jewellery advertising what they are!! Unbelievable!!

I'm guessing though that usually paedophiles identify and come to trust each other gradually through conversations rather than through secret symbols... Like, "Ah mate, did ya see about Rolf Harris being arrested?? They say he's a pedophile, but the girl was 16, and people can want and enjoy sex at that age."
If the other person acts disgusted, they drop the subject or backpedal and don't say things like that around that person again. But if the person agrees, they continue to gradually push the boundaries, trying to find out what the other person's limits are. Eg. "Oh, I agree mate, even younger kids than that can be sexual, it's only natural."
"Yeah, and some people are just attracted to younger people, it's not their fault and we shouldn't lock them up for it".
"Yeah, doesn't mean they're gonna harm any kids, and anyway, as long as it's consensual it's fine".

If the other person disagrees or acts disgusted at any point, they can just backpedal immediately then drop the subject.

 

[bearbear]

in april police seemed to have renewed optimism william was still alive.....when they discovered the p/ring

UPDATE April 18, 2015: New information now leads the police to believe that little William Tyrell could be alive, seven months after his abduction last September, and in the hands of a paedophile ring operating on NSW’s north coast.

“We have information that could link William’s disappearance to a group of people suspected of paedophile activity,” Detective Inspector Gary Jubelin told The Saturday Telegraph.
Homicide Squad commander Detective Superintendent Mick Willing added, “From the moment the paedophile ring was discovered, this has become a very fast-paced investigation which is progressing rapidly. That’s all I can say at this point.”
http://www.kidspot.com.au/watch-william-tyrells-parents-anguished-plea/

 

[Rayemonde]

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/aliceday.asp



A hacker wants a job hey. Thats new A lot of the symbols in this webpage are company logos, some use on girls clothing.

I dare any bloke to wear a butterfly around their neck like that lol.



If I was Roxy, I would be sorting this out quick smart. Talk about destroying brand positioning. Just because someone says something on the internet doesn't make it true.

Chris Tilbury is on Twitter if you want to ask him which police said Roxy brand is a paedophile symbol. Im sure Roxy will be lol



This thread is getting way off topic.

It didn't say the Roxy logo is a paedophile symbol, it said that paedo symbols are "as recognizable as" the Roxy logo.

 

[bearbear]

 

[Bohemian]

http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/aliceday.asp

Alice Day has not been proven to be a hoax; it's listed as a 'mixture' of true/false. Anons did indeed find the reporting of it provocative enough to launch a DDOS attack on the NAMBLA site in 2013. #Op Safekids was founded on FB in 2011 due to concerns about paedophile activity there and I was one of the founding members. Anons continue their activism against paedophiles, their websites and anywhere else they are found on the internet, including social media, to this day.

Much as I would like to continue the discussion about online paedophiles, I feel it's become close to (if not already) OT as William was abducted in real life; not groomed online, and I should be concentrating on sleuthing his case.

 

[Bohemian]

Thank you for this subtle reminder, bearbear. Late night ramblings sometimes get out of hand :embarassed:

 

[crabstick]

Its like, someone just made $&!! up on the page. Chris has used, "police said", but I doubt his sources partly because he has none. Id say he will get a phone call very soon. Especially without proof, eg: people busted for sex offences wearing the logo around their neck.

It didn't say the Roxy logo is a paedophile symbol, it said that paedo symbols are "as recognizable as" the Roxy logo.
http://kernelmag.dailydot.com/featur...sex-offenders/

Yes, they are being conservative, it was said on a blog, which doesn't make it true, and no police force has stated otherwise.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/aliceday.asp

Alice Day has not been proven to be a hoax; it's listed as a 'mixture' of true/false. Anons did indeed find the reporting of it provocative enough to launch a DDOS on the NAMBLA site in 2013. #Op Safekids was founded on FB in 2011 due to concerns about paedophile activity there and I was one of the founding members. Anons continue their activism against paedophile and their websites on the internet, including social media, to this day.

Much as I would like to continue the discussion about online paedophiles, I feel it's become close to (if not already) OT as William was abducted in real life; not groomed online, and I should be concentrating on sleuthing his case.

There is no mention of "Alice Day" or "Pedophilia Pride Day" on the web sites of the FBI or the Department of Health and Human Services' Children's Bureau. The Facebook group "Police Alerts UK & News reports" did post a warning about "Alice Day" on 7 April 2014, but that alert actually originated with the blog Time to Start Caring and not a police department:
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/crime/warnings/aliceday.asp#qtqmEreCXp4laTcb.99

It is on the Wikileaks website, but there is no source of it public on the FBI website which doesn't help the credibility of the Wiki document (unclassified).

How to verify (as provided by our source)
Call FBI’s Cyber Division, Innocent Images Unit on +1 301-586-1613. In addition the unrestricted parts of the document appeared briefly in an Ann-Arbour police newletter, subsequently removed from the internet, but the text is still available via Google's cache. Search for "formed into pendants, and have also been found imprinted on coins"
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/FBI_pedophile_symbols

So someone published it, then someone asked it be removed as it was not factual. Please note mention of the FBI Cyber division. That is not code for we are all over kiddie fiddlers on the net like a rash.

https://www.fbi.gov/fbi-search#outp...TF-8&siteurl=www.fbi.gov/&q=paedophile+symbol