Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, Nsw, 12 Sept 2014 - #59

[PingTheRouter]

Amazed that the FP family car hasn't been taken for forensic investigation.

FF had it when he took it in to town for the work phone call i think.. unless someone knows otherwise

hence why they are targeting the FGM car

 

[marellajubes]

BREAKING NEWS: William Tyrrell’s foster parents are CHARGED with assaulting a child at their home in Sydney’s north – as police find TWO mystery items at dig site

William Tyrrell's foster parents are CHARGED with assaulting a child at their home | Daily Mail Online

Now the questioning/interrogation begins.

I wonder if they held off on the charge until this was all orchestrated and plastered all over the news. Now divide and conquer and let them believe they've got more than they have. Or maybe they have enough.

 

[missepic]

FF had it when he took it in to town for the work phone call i think.. unless someone knows otherwise

hence why they are targeting the FGM car

Truly insane they wouldn’t check that car for just that reason. I cannot believe how protected this family is.

 

[EllaN1]

Australian Federal Police have smashed what they believe to be Australia’s most horrific domestic child exploitation network, with some of the victims believed to have been raped and filmed in the town where William Tyrrell disappeared.
Kate Kyriacou June 5, 2020 - 5:56PM

No Cookies | The Courier Mail

That's what convinced me that he was taken by a pedophile/pedophile ring. I thought that they are onto something at the time

 

[organised_chaos]

Australian Federal Police have smashed what they believe to be Australia’s most horrific domestic child exploitation network, with some of the victims believed to have been raped and filmed in the town where William Tyrrell disappeared.
Kate Kyriacou June 5, 2020 - 5:56PM

No Cookies | The Courier Mail

without a paywall..'

No Cookies | Daily Telegraph

 

[marellajubes]

FF had it when he took it in to town for the work phone call i think.. unless someone knows otherwise

hence why they are targeting the FGM car

In the podcast, the father says his was checked. However with this one they say it'll be tested for weeks, so not sure how thorough the FF car was checked

 

[Marg944]

Police find TWO 'mystery items' during William Tyrrell search with excited detectives at site linked to foster grandma's seized car comparing it with a sample of a Spiderman cloth

Police had placed a sign saying forensic number eight on the ground next to whatever they had uncovered and then used a brush to clear further earth from the surface.

Four detectives and seven police grouped around the potential find as a female officer brought out a small blue tarpaulin to cover the area.

Police then painstakingly dug by hand around the root of a plant, cautiously removing evidence.
The item found appeared to be a disintegrated piece of threaded material.

After 30 minutes, police began patting forensic expert Professor Jon Olley on his shoulder.

About 3.15pm, police made a second possible find which Det. Duke compared with a Spiderman suit image on his phone.

He took photos on his phone of the item, which was also possibly fabric and placed an evidence marker beside it.
Uniformed police appeared to pour a liquid over the item before placing it in a brown paper bag.

That area and the location of the first find of a degraded piece of patterned fabric has now been pegged with blue plastic flag markers.

A cadaver dog was taken over the area and the whole scene covered with large rolls of black plastic.

William Tyrrell: Police find 'mystery item' in Kendall search | Daily Mail Online

 

[they'll get you]

He's been mentioned mainly because his other son is well known in the Oz music scene.

Lives close by to me.

 

[marellajubes]

Truly insane they wouldn’t check that car for just that reason. I cannot believe how protected this family is.

I doubt the bio-family were given the same courtesy. It goes to show how a far a well-spoken and affluent disposition can get you .

 

[Willowpea]

For starters, pedophile rings don't really exist in Australia, but also, even if they did then the perpetrators would seek out kids that no-one will miss.

Pedophile rings certainly exist in Australia. A small group were recently discovered on the mid north coast, in Kendall. Here is a link:
Sixteen children allegedly sexually abused at NSW Mid-North Coast childcare centre

 

[organised_chaos]

ugh delete that. old article sigh

 

[JBowie]

That's what convinced me that he was taken by a pedophile/pedophile ring. I thought that they are onto something at the time

I gather that the William case investigation work triggered reports from locals that the police followed up. So a 'side benefit' to put it crudely.

 

[bearbear]

why did police only release those drawings/photos of the cars fm allegedly saw, a year later? did they doubt her at the time?

 

[jessicalouise]

I'm finding the recent bombshell quite dubious. Given the way NSW police and the NSW legal system has conducted itself in the past in relation to this case unless there is actual clear cut evidence I wouldn't trust them as far as I can throw them.

Firstly: The AVO. The AVO was taken out on behalf of a minor by NSW detectives. Very easy thing to obtain yet looks VERY bad. Until assault charges are laid and the people they're laid against are found guilty I'm withholding judgment on that one.

Second: Motive. What could possibly be the motive for the FF to kill, dispose of, and lie to cover up said killing whether it be on purpose or accidental? Three people (4 including the sister) all being questioned and sticking to the same story that they would have had to have made up that day on the spot? Right ok.

Third: The area where WT disappeared was teeming with paedophiles, dirty old men, and their friends and associates. Combine that with the bush telegraph of a small town and news travelling fast in certain circles (FG has a little boy who is a FChild coming to her residence, needs a washing machine repaired for their stay) that would be big news in a small town with that many creeps living in the area. I don't believe BS is a suspect (although who gets a paper receipt at a cafe? Pfft), I do think he relayed that information to someone who would find it very interesting though.

Forth: The treatment of Gary Jubelin. Sure if this was some know-nothing rogue detective then yeah maybe I can see why they'd want him kicked off the case by any means necessary. But he's not. He was involved in two high profile cases. And the catalyst for his downfall does NOT add up. You can only lay charges and prosecute if there is ACTUAL evidence. The accusation that he was illegally recording and would therefore stuff up a future trial by obtaining evidence (that's debatable in itself) that would then not be able to be used doesn't make any sense as NSW seem to have left that line of enquiry cold and have instead focused their sights in a completely different direction.

Something does not feel right.

There are always people who think in any case "the parents did it". We saw it with CS, and we also saw it from the very beginning when people thought it was the bio parents, then the FF. Because it's just the easiest. Whether it's true or not.

Anyway. That's just me.

 

[JBowie]

According to the podcast they did smell a rat from the beginning, hence the speed they issued an amber alert, they just thought it was the Bio family rather than the foster.

Yes, but I meant an 'onsite' rat.

 

[inkpink]

I'm finding the recent bombshell quite dubious. Given the way NSW police and the NSW legal system has conducted itself in the past in relation to this case unless there is actual clear cut evidence I wouldn't trust them as far as I can throw them.

Firstly: The AVO. The AVO was taken out on behalf of a minor by NSW detectives. Very easy thing to obtain yet looks VERY bad. Until assault charges are laid and the people they're laid against are found guilty I'm withholding judgment on that one.

Second: Motive. What could possibly be the motive for the FF to kill, dispose of, and lie to cover up said killing whether it be on purpose or accidental? Three people (4 including the sister) all being questioned and sticking to the same story that they would have had to have made up that day on the spot? Right ok.

Third: The area where WT disappeared was teeming with paedophiles, dirty old men, and their friends and associates. Combine that with the bush telegraph of a small town and news travelling fast in certain circles (FG has a little boy who is a FChild coming to her residence, needs a washing machine repaired for their stay) that would be big news in a small town with that many creeps living in the area. I don't believe BS is a suspect (although who gets a paper receipt at a cafe? Pfft), I do think he relayed that information to someone who would find it very interesting though.

Forth: The treatment of Gary Jubelin. Sure if this was some know-nothing rogue detective then yeah maybe I can see why they'd want him kicked off the case by any means necessary. But he's not. He was involved in two high profile cases. And the catalyst for his downfall does NOT add up. You can only lay charges and prosecute if there is ACTUAL evidence. The accusation that he was illegally recording and would therefore stuff up a future trial by obtaining evidence (that's debatable in itself) that would then not be able to be used doesn't make any sense as NSW seem to have left that line of enquiry cold and have instead focused their sights in a completely different direction.

Something does not feel right.

There are always people who think in any case "the parents did it". We saw it with CS, and we also saw it from the very beginning when people thought it was the bio parents, then the FF. Because it's just the easiest. Whether it's true or not.

Anyway. That's just me.

According to this artice, assault charges have just been laid!

William Tyrrell's foster parents are CHARGED with assaulting a child at their home | Daily Mail Online

 

[JBowie]

I'm finding the recent bombshell quite dubious. Given the way NSW police and the NSW legal system has conducted itself in the past in relation to this case unless there is actual clear cut evidence I wouldn't trust them as far as I can throw them.

Firstly: The AVO. The AVO was taken out on behalf of a minor by NSW detectives. Very easy thing to obtain yet looks VERY bad. Until assault charges are laid and the people they're laid against are found guilty I'm withholding judgment on that one.

Second: Motive. What could possibly be the motive for the FF to kill, dispose of, and lie to cover up said killing whether it be on purpose or accidental? Three people (4 including the sister) all being questioned and sticking to the same story that they would have had to have made up that day on the spot? Right ok.

The reason for the AVO is as yet unknown, however, given that it relates to a foster child, I would strongly expect that FACS is involved in the process. Edit: there's now a Daily Mail report that both foster parents have been charged with assault.

My guess is that there was a fatal accident. Falling off the high balcony while playacting Spiderman seems quite feasible.

 

[marellajubes]

I'm finding the recent bombshell quite dubious. Given the way NSW police and the NSW legal system has conducted itself in the past in relation to this case unless there is actual clear cut evidence I wouldn't trust them as far as I can throw them.

Firstly: The AVO. The AVO was taken out on behalf of a minor by NSW detectives. Very easy thing to obtain yet looks VERY bad. Until assault charges are laid and the people they're laid against are found guilty I'm withholding judgment on that one.

Second: Motive. What could possibly be the motive for the FF to kill, dispose of, and lie to cover up said killing whether it be on purpose or accidental? Three people (4 including the sister) all being questioned and sticking to the same story that they would have had to have made up that day on the spot? Right ok.

Third: The area where WT disappeared was teeming with paedophiles, dirty old men, and their friends and associates. Combine that with the bush telegraph of a small town and news travelling fast in certain circles (FG has a little boy who is a FChild coming to her residence, needs a washing machine repaired for their stay) that would be big news in a small town with that many creeps living in the area. I don't believe BS is a suspect (although who gets a paper receipt at a cafe? Pfft), I do think he relayed that information to someone who would find it very interesting though.

Forth: The treatment of Gary Jubelin. Sure if this was some know-nothing rogue detective then yeah maybe I can see why they'd want him kicked off the case by any means necessary. But he's not. He was involved in two high profile cases. And the catalyst for his downfall does NOT add up. You can only lay charges and prosecute if there is ACTUAL evidence. The accusation that he was illegally recording and would therefore stuff up a future trial by obtaining evidence (that's debatable in itself) that would then not be able to be used doesn't make any sense as NSW seem to have left that line of enquiry cold and have instead focused their sights in a completely different direction.

Something does not feel right.

There are always people who think in any case "the parents did it". We saw it with CS, and we also saw it from the very beginning when people thought it was the bio parents, then the FF. Because it's just the easiest. Whether it's true or not.

Anyway. That's just me.

Its not easy to have a child removed from your care if you have been granted their care till 18. There needs to be some sort of evidence for that to occur. I dont think its done because of just bruises. Something else is at play.

I think this is why they case is so hard to solve. Because frankly anyone who has been mentioned could have done it and youd be like ok, makes sense. Bio-family want their child back, have absconded with WT before (have been cleared by LE). So many pedophiles in the area, linked to accused pedophiles who were due at the house for repairs. And then a foster family who it seems were not credibly cleared at the time.

 

[jessicalouise]

According to this artice, assault charges have just been laid!

William Tyrrell's foster parents are CHARGED with assaulting a child at their home | Daily Mail Online

Still reserving my judgment. Let's keep in mind that this is the same NSW police force that strip searched minors at music festivals to search for drugs including getting an underage female to lift her panty liner.

I don't trust them. And police/LE aren't always right. Many an investigation has been stuffed up.

It doesn't feel right to me.

 

[jessicalouise]

If the assault charges end up getting dropped or they're found not guilty I'm buying myself a Coke.