Yes, and I was hoping OM had cameras of their own, especially helpful would be cameras on the opposite side of the church. They might capture activity behind the building on the side of the Celis home.
Does OM have cameras at the back?
Yes, and I was hoping OM had cameras of their own, especially helpful would be cameras on the opposite side of the church. They might capture activity behind the building on the side of the Celis home.
To me, this is not a stranger abduction. Dogs, walls, the house layout etc. suggests to me that someone who knew the family was involved. Time will tell. God bless the innocents.
Even though Isa door closed, you would think any little noise would have caused dogs to bark. ... such as, when perp kidnapped Isa. Wonder if dogs barked in middle of night? I had thought she was kidnapped or passed out window by someone staying there at 0628 (when Mom in shower or feeding dogs), but maybe this did happen in middle of night... Its a shame to hear about another little girl kidnapped from her home. Is this happening more often, or do we just hear about it more because of cable news, etc.
Personally I don't believe the neighbor's account of the dogs barking or the men outside at 6:30am have anything to do with Isabel's disappearance. It would be daylight and highly unlikely the perpetrator abducted her then, as opposed to during the middle of the night, in darkness, while everyone was asleep.Even though Isa door closed, you would think any little noise would have caused dogs to bark. ... such as, when perp kidnapped Isa. Wonder if dogs barked in middle of night? I had thought she was kidnapped or passed out window by someone staying there at 0628 per neighbor confirming time of dog barking and men in ally outside Isa window(and possibly the same time Mom in shower or feeding dogs in back yard), but maybe this did happen in middle of night. Still strongly suspect family member involved who knew home layout, back alley by Isa room, dog schedule, family schedule --- either Dad, Uncle, family friend or neighbor who had been to home and knew Isa. Who would know that Isa sleeping alone that night? Dogs inside, rather than outside? Family.
Its a shame to hear about another little girl kidnapped from her home. Is this happening more often, or do we just hear about it more because of cable news, etc.
If LE had already identified and spoken to our mysterious 6th person recorded on this latest video release, doesn't it make sense that they would have said that when asked at today's presser? IE, "Oh, yes ~ that was Office Max's security person or custodial staff, and we have interviewed them" or whatever?
I would think that type of statement would shift the focal point back onto the five walkers ~ which is what they desired. Since they didn't do that, it leaves me to believe the mysterious figure is the very reason they want to talk with the group of 5 ~ to discover if they noticed him/her and could give any description or further helpful details. 'Course, just moo.
If LE had already identified and spoken to our mysterious 6th person recorded on this latest video release, doesn't it make sense that they would have said that when asked at today's presser? IE, "Oh, yes ~ that was Office Max's security person or custodial staff, and we have interviewed them" or whatever?
I would think that type of statement would shift the focal point back onto the five walkers ~ which is what they desired. Since they didn't do that, it leaves me to believe the mysterious figure is the very reason they want to talk with the group of 5 ~ to discover if they noticed him/her and could give any description or further helpful details. 'Course, just moo.
Personally I don't believe the neighbor's account of the dogs barking or the men outside at 6:30am have anything to do with Isabel's disappearance. It would be daylight and highly unlikely the perpetrator abducted her then, as opposed to during the middle of the night, in darkness, while everyone was asleep.
MOO
I was up until midnight last night watching that video. I saw everything you guys did. I showed my husband this morning and he saw it too.
Originally, my mind was going to the parents - BUT I am changing my mind. I dreamed about this all night. I am NOT psychic, but sometimes when I lose something I dream about it and I get up in the morning and go right to it. In my dream she is alive, she is in the back of a van that has no carpet. Her hands and feet are tied and she is blindfolded. I can only see the backs of the heads of the two men. One driving, one in the passenger seat. The driver has a shaved head and the passenger is a younger man/boy, maybe a teenager (I don't think he is really there of his free will either, but the shaved head man is in control). They are first driving through flat sandy areas (dessert?), then they are driving into mountains. There are trees around and the road is not paved. In the dream they stop several times for food or gas? In my dream it is a straight line they are driving, like with points on it? I dunno, again I am not psychic or anything, but I woke up feeling like I just had to put this out there somewhere - like I was seeing things through her perspective? She might still be alive. I hope so badly she is.
Have we heard that any of the 5 have contacted LE?
Thanks for reading my ramblings.....
I wish the parents would speak again in case she is in a motel and can hear the tv and the voices of her parents speaking to her....
After I seen the figure on the video last night, before I posted it here I called the LE and spoke to a detective about it. He was trying to pull the video up while we where on the phone but was having trouble with his computer. He took my name and number for another detective. I have not heard anything else. From what I gather from that detective he had not seen it, but he has seen it now.
But inly you and your family KNOW that your dog won't bark. A stranger would be pretty foolhardy to come in a home with a dog present if he didn't want to be seen or heard.
Our neighbor has a small dog who is let outside in the middle of the night (anywhere from 2:00am-4:00am) and barks at anything such as cats maybe walking along the fence; therefore while the dog awakens us, we ignore it for the most part. A stranger lurking around wouldn't know that, however, and may think it's a biting guard dog!I mentioned this in an earlier post of mine. The only way I can see this being about Isa is if the male voices were the dad and uncle and they were staging a scene.
The dogs frantically barking could be that dogs are usually protective of kids and could have sensed something very wrong with Isa, even death. Dogs have a way of knowing something isn't right.
However, if this isn't the time of abduction and someone else did in fact take her, I would assume the perp would do it under the cover of darkness. Not at 6:30 a.m. when they would have no idea if someone would be up in that household, or the neighbors, and when it is now daylight. I know perps can be brazen, even enough to steal a child with many people around and in the blink of an eye, but was this perp that brazen? Perhaps I may be shocked if 6:30 was the time of abduction and someone outside that house is responsible.
Right!
In my opinion LE should be all over thise mysterious person issue, I mean what would anyone have to do in a place like that 1:30am???
The lot the mysterious person was at is a bizz area, nothing going on there at 1:30 AM right? or is there some restaurants? club etc in that area that legalize persons beeing in that area?
Any locals know?
I'm so depressed. I joined Wedsleuths three years ago when Victoria Stafford went missing. Since then, other than hers, EVERY other case I have followed goes unsolved and the missing person not found. The only thing worse than having your child abducted and murdered is not knowing where your child is. I really hope they find Isabel soon.
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/17901173/tucson-police-provide-update-on-isabel-celis-case
I just watched this PC. Right after 13:30, Ltd. Pacheco says they are close to issuing an amber alert-did I hear that right??
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/17901173/tucson-police-provide-update-on-isabel-celis-case
I just watched this PC. Right after 13:30, Ltd. Pacheco says they are close to issuing an amber alert-did I hear that right??