Baez Lashes out at Investigators-UPDATE Allegations of Evidence Tampering

[doogiesgirl]

I don't have time to read all six pages right now so sorry if this has already been mentioned but doesn't JB realize that he has to work with LE for many years to come AFTER KC has been long gone? What is he thinking????? JMO

 

[NancyT]

Am I not allowed to post work from other websites even if the link is there? I don't have a problem that my post was pulled, I'd just like to know why it was so I don't do it again?

Thanks!

 

[McSev]

Alan Jackson also sent away from Henry Lee's college transcripts. It appears the good old Dr Lee was able to obtain his Ph.D in ONE year. I really don't think it's possible, but that's the time frame Henry Lee claims it took him (and he was educated here in the states). I don't know how it all played out, but I do know that Alan Jackson never got the transcripts in time to use them when questioning Henry Lee on the stand. He probably got them at a later time, but like I said, if he did, it was too late.

Now, after all these years (and maybe they came up with some transcripts for Lee since that time), Henry Lee may not even hold the expertise to be truly considered an expert in his field.

Since he's now on this case, I'd imagine there is some showy type paperwork available now, but 1 year? Does ANYONE think this is really possible?

No wonder he's "working for free." Apparently, Spitz didn't come out of that trial looking too good either. Lee, Baden, Spitz all were on that case, right? So like I stated before on other threads, what, you buy 1 get 2 free?

 

[NancyT]

No wonder he's "working for free." Apparently, Spitz didn't come out of that trial looking too good either. Lee, Baden, Spitz all were on that case, right? So like I stated before on other threads, what, you buy 1 get 2 free?

LOL

Vincent DiMaio was another. I was so looking forward to him becoming a part of this team, too. Baden was a team, LKB and Michael...

I think Jose' is a wannabe. There are so many fantastic attorneys out there and some really good incredible experts, yet, he went with the smoke and mirrors crew. That alone will tell jurors that Casey is guilty, IMO. Not that I have a problem with that, mind you. :woohoo:

 

[Pollywog]

I really think he needs to go some place and sit the heck down until he goes through the proper procedures to get the informaton. I wonder does he think the laws do not apply in this case? Why in the world would a judge chance violating the law by letting him in there?

 

[100%Agave]

Wonder what the people paying for all those defense experts think...

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/12/12/minutetominute_update_in_remains_discovery_12_11.html

Maybe he can explain "the fund" while he's at it. So much for Henry Lee stated last night he's working for free - wonder who isn't? If they're paying for Baez they might want to buy him some new lawyerin' books...

Who in the name of all that is holy is donating to Casey's defense fund?

Or are these the donations to Find Caylee?

 

[Macushla]

LOL

Vincent DiMaio was another. I was so looking forward to him becoming a part of this team, too. Baden was a team, LKB and Michael...

Oh I doubt you will see DiMaio in on this one. Dr. Garavaglia was his Deputy Medical Examiner down in San Antonio, Texas and I know he thought very highly of her. I think he is smart enough to stay out of this mix.

 

[robotdog]

And you do it with ease! :crazy:

:crazy:

 

[Anais]

I hope Judge Strickland gets a whiff of this grandstanding and attempting to taint the jury pool and smacks him with a contempt of court! Judge made things very clear yesterday for the 2nd time! He ought to be ashamed of himself.

 

[nancy botwin]

Alan Jackson also sent away from Henry Lee's college transcripts. It appears the good old Dr Lee was able to obtain his Ph.D in ONE year. I really don't think it's possible, but that's the time frame Henry Lee claims it took him (and he was educated here in the states). I don't know how it all played out, but I do know that Alan Jackson never got the transcripts in time to use them when questioning Henry Lee on the stand. He probably got them at a later time, but like I said, if he did, it was too late.

Now, after all these years (and maybe they came up with some transcripts for Lee since that time), Henry Lee may not even hold the expertise to be truly considered an expert in his field.

Since he's now on this case, I'd imagine there is some showy type paperwork available now, but 1 year? Does ANYONE think this is really possible?

I think it's possible. Lee's CV is available in pdf format here. It appears he got his MS from NYU in 1974 and then his PhD in 1975. It's possible to efficiently expand Master's level research and work into a doctoral thesis within a year. Since the two graduate degrees were obtained at the same institution, it makes sense to me.

It also appears that Lee received a professional/college-level degree from an institution in Taiwan in 1960-- The degree was in "Police Science" and so I would imagine some of the material and info could have been duplicative for him when he continued his education in the US.

I don't know anything about former controversies surrounding his education/qualifications-- I've read and seen enough of Lee to form my opinion that he seems to be the quintessential "expert for hire." However, I don't think he's unqualified or lacking in expertise-- which, to me, makes the way he uses his intelligence and skill even more unfortunate.

 

[desertmom]

Isn't it just outrageous? LE is trying to pick up all the pieces of a dead baby and some stranger is bitching about "professional courtesy" AND he knows darn well he isn't entitled to view the crime scene. As well, how dare him call Caylee's final resting place a "Circus." A circus is something Caylee will never get to see or hear. The language used by everyone in this matter, from day one, is troubling. Cindy and George Anthony's attorney Brad Conway said the other day, when talking about the Anthonys' return to the house post-evidence gathering, that "The Anthonys are not concerned about the items taken from the home." Not concerned? What's that supposed to mean?? They're not concerned the items will yield evidence against Casey? Gee great. What else could the Anthonys "not be concerned" about -- items removed because they can get live without them, like a lamp or something? The only statement those 2 should have made (or approved) was this: We are distraught to learn the body of a young child was found and we don't want it to be Caylee or anyone's child. We understand that based on the finding, there are now additional items in our home that might help solve this terrible mystery involving our poor granddaughter and we hope that law enforcement was able to get all they needed and is able to get more information from these things about what might have happened to our little Caylee. Period.

Wow! You said it all better than I ever could!!

 

[CarrieBean]

Baez must be foaming at the mouth over the prosecutors being at the crime scene today.

 

[MiraclesHappen]

Isn't it just outrageous? LE is trying to pick up all the pieces of a dead baby and some stranger is bitching about "professional courtesy" AND he knows darn well he isn't entitled to view the crime scene. As well, how dare him call Caylee's final resting place a "Circus." A circus is something Caylee will never get to see or hear. The language used by everyone in this matter, from day one, is troubling. Cindy and George Anthony's attorney Brad Conway said the other day, when talking about the Anthonys' return to the house post-evidence gathering, that "The Anthonys are not concerned about the items taken from the home." Not concerned? What's that supposed to mean?? They're not concerned the items will yield evidence against Casey? Gee great. What else could the Anthonys "not be concerned" about -- items removed because they can get live without them, like a lamp or something? The only statement those 2 should have made (or approved) was this: We are distraught to learn the body of a young child was found and we don't want it to be Caylee or anyone's child. We understand that based on the finding, there are now additional items in our home that might help solve this terrible mystery involving our poor granddaughter and we hope that law enforcement was able to get all they needed and is able to get more information from these things about what might have happened to our little Caylee. Period.

I honestly believe, not being sarcastic, that he means they aren't concerned in light of the fact they weren't home and they will not know what is listed as officially taken until the return on the Search Warrant is filed, with inventory.

If the Anthony's feel it is missing and seized by the police the other night, and it isn't on that list, they have no proof it was taken by police.

I personally don't see what the big deal is. They are accustomed to stealing, if that was the improper implication.

Thsi type of language should be reserved for Baez' client. I would guess she fits the mold of the type of person who'd claim that when LE went in, there was a 85 carat diamond ring on the night stand and now it is gone. They must have taken it.

That is the type of nonsense he is talking about.

I can't believe he'd say that. But he did. He continues to amaze me...not in a real good way.

Maybe he is not used to all the media and he will improve. We'll see.

 

[MD MOMMY]

AAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW poor Baez. Nevermind that LE is attempting to collect EVERY LAST BONE of a precious 2 3/4 year old little girl. NAH, it's all a conspiracy. I think he needs to keep in mind that LE is methodically doing what they need to do for CAYLEE..not for KC's benefit. JMO.

 

[impatientredhead]

AAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW poor Baez. Nevermind that LE is attempting to collect EVERY LAST BONE of a precious 2 3/4 year old little girl. NAH, it's all a conspiracy. I think he needs to keep in mind that LE is methodically doing what they need to do for CAYLEE..not for KC's benefit. JMO.

If he wasn't so damn persistent in telling the world his client is guilty he might realize that the state processing this scene properly just might get the charges against his client dropped if she were <cough cough> innocent of the charges.

If I was falsely accused of a crime I didn't commit I would want them out there for a month turning that whole area upside down.

 

[Ocean Lover]

Baez lashes out at investigators

On Wednesday Casey Anthony’s attorney Jose Baez released the following statement regarding the crime scene:

“The Casey Anthony Defense Team has made numerous attempts to preserve the evidence in and around the location where the human remains of what appear to be a small child were found.

Law enforcement has been repeatedly asked to allow reasonable access by medical and scientific experts for the defense, including requests for photographs, and assistance with maintaining a secure examination scene prior to any media or general public access.

Every effort by The Baez Law Firm to establish a level of basic cooperation and professional courtesy have all been rejected by the government. This lack of cooperation has complicated how to proceed.

Now that the scene more resembles that of an excavation site as opposed to an examinable crime scene - attorney Jose Baez has been advised that without properly detailed photographs and all related material and documentation, the various experts on the Casey Anthony Defense Team will simply not be able to thoroughly examine the site.

Unfortunately this matter has already become a Media Circus and something The Baez Law Firm will not contribute to, by just making a show of going to the excavation site without good reason. The Casey Anthony Defense Team is being prevented from examining the site unless and until all photographs, schematic sketches and related material and documentation are released to the defense through the discovery process.”

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/p...n=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

towards bottom

Ummmm Jose I believe that yesterday the judge told you that you could have access after the FBI was done searching the crime scene. Maybe you should go back and ask the judge again if you can gain access to the crime scene. He may just bring down a gag order so be careful what you ask for.

 

[bailee]

Okay I will "out" myself I am a paralegal in Canada
everytime I
read a motion by Baez I cringe
hear him speak in court I cringe
sorry but I just feel like my teeth are hurting UUUUGGGHHH!

 

[Nore]

He is being given reasonable access to the scene. Exactly what he is entitled to. Did this man go to law school? Does he have internet access where he could read the laws in Florida? They have a very easy to navigate site, maybe I will send him a link. It might clear up how to proceed.

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Did he pay any attention to what the Judge told him? I know one thing,if I were the Judge and he asked for a change of venue,if possible to do I would refuse him! He has been out there flapping his gums on prime time tv.just like everyone else and more than some.Why on earth did he call in all the "specialists" when he knew or should have known the Courts proceedures? Does he have a brain? Taint the jury? he's doing a good job all by himself.IMO

 

[NancyT]

I think it's possible. Lee's CV is available in pdf format here. It appears he got his MS from NYU in 1974 and then his PhD in 1975. It's possible to efficiently expand Master's level research and work into a doctoral thesis within a year. Since the two graduate degrees were obtained at the same institution, it makes sense to me.

It also appears that Lee received a professional/college-level degree from an institution in Taiwan in 1960-- The degree was in "Police Science" and so I would imagine some of the material and info could have been duplicative for him when he continued his education in the US.

I don't know anything about former controversies surrounding his education/qualifications-- I've read and seen enough of Lee to form my opinion that he seems to be the quintessential "expert for hire." However, I don't think he's unqualified or lacking in expertise-- which, to me, makes the way he uses his intelligence and skill even more unfortunate.

Well, you're certainly entitled to think anything you'd like, but check out some of these links and I didn't even have to go past page 1 on a Google search.

Average time to earn a Ph.D. - 8.2 years
http://lawandcourts.wordpress.com/2007/10/04/average-time-to-earn-a-phd-82-years/

Exploring Ways to Shorten the Ascent to a Ph.D.

This is a sentence from paragraph 3
The average student takes 8.2 years to get a Ph.D.; in education, that figure surpasses 13 years.

Paragraph 6
There are probably few universities that nudge students out the door as rapidly as Princeton, where a humanities student now averages 6.4 years compared with 7.5 in 2003.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/03/education/03education.html?pagewanted=all

Here is a poll that asked those taking the poll how long it took them to receive their Ph.D. It starts at 3 years. It doesn't even appear that 1 or 2 years was an option.
http://chronicle.com/forums/index.php?topic=53103.15

Alan Jackson is aware of this, that's why he sent away for Henry Lee's transcripts to begin with.

 

[magic-cat]

Jose is full of CHIT!