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Hi, So I read during that call Ron is heard in the background saying SS to - the lock was sideways.

I can't visualize that unless he is talking about a padlock. That couldn't be right :confused:

They keep saying deadbolt and when most people hear that they think horizontal slide deadbolt but I betcha this is the style they have, we have this kind, and when it is UNLOCKED it is going straight up and down, and when it is LOCKED it is going sideways (the thing you turn). So he said it was sideways / locked. That's my hypothesis.

http://www.atouchofbrass.com/p-16245-baldwin-bronze-round-deadbolt.aspx
 
The door doesn't have to be shut for the knob to be facing sideways, they are pretty springy and if someone came in from a window or was already in the home and did exit thru the back door, they could have turned it just enough to get the door open/unlocked and then it could have sprung back into the lock sideways position even though they didn't pull the door shut behind them. Especially since Ron said theirs was pretty difficult to get open in the first place, rem.
 
Dunno, could be semantics. If I came in from our field and found someone came in and took my purse thru open back door, I would probably say BROKE IN too instead of CAME IN as I still consider it an intrusion

I agree.
If they were not let in then IMO him saying they broke in would be right.
 
I wonder if the door is metal as in most mobile homes. Also, I wonder if LE has had the owners in the home to see if everything is as it was when it was rented to Ronald. Ronald (or someone) had stated the door dragged when opened to the point you would have to lift up when closing and locking it. I would like to know if the owners were aware of that.

So many questions and NO answers!
 
They keep saying deadbolt and when most people hear that they think horizontal slide deadbolt but I betcha this is the style they have, we have this kind, and when it is UNLOCKED it is going straight up and down, and when it is LOCKED it is going sideways (the thing you turn). So he said it was sideways / locked. That's my hypothesis.

http://www.atouchofbrass.com/p-16245-baldwin-bronze-round-deadbolt.aspx

That is kind of like the deadbolt on my mobile home but the little knob is different and when it's positioned horizontally it's open and when it's vertical (straight up and down) it's locked. Mine is the same year model and I just looked and it's a Kwikset

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That position above is locked.

Now they could have replaced them sometime in the past with another kind, but I doubt we will ever find out.
 
Must have been some serious drugs - I got a speeding ticket last year and it was almost $200

I think we could solve a lot of the economic crisis if we put a hefty tax on drug offenses. The $100 fine for the cocaine is just plain wrong... you're right... not even the cost of most speeding tickets. It seems as if the court hearing would cost more than these little fines!!
 
I've been at the BioMom's Dad's ms tonight and thinking about the dogfighting charges,the characters that you could meet at these things.I watched JS in the camo on the GR show,and he was very angry.I know he's a hunter,exmarine and I wonder why crystal was taken to an abandoned house by LE yesterday and asked if anything looked familiar to her.Then LE went to Marcus' house,JS's son and questioned him after Chad was taken to Sheriff's dept.Crystal said it wasn't Chad that Ronald told he was 75% sure who had Haleigh,but it was Marcus,but on GR show,she said both and GR asked Chad and he said Ronald did ask him that.Crystal has the charge of the false complaint against Ronald,so there are questions to be asked.
 
And the 2-10-09 Contempt of Court. $325.00 per month is the payment. Not certain of the backpay she owed.This was Monday day before Haleigh was taken,I wonder,could someone have planned to make Ronald look bad?Really bad,bad enough to make him lose custody and this custody battle has went on for three years,Crystal owing $325 a month and not being able to pay it.She has a new baby,getting ready to be married.People are focused at them living an hour away,they have relatives right in Satsuma.
 
I've never been exactly sure about the family connection with Chad to Crystal but here's the definitive answer. He is Crystal's stepbrother.

Haleigh's maternal grandmother, Marie Griffis, said Chad Griffis has nothing to hide. Marie Griffis is also Chad Griffis' stepmother.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29350525/
 
And the 2-10-09 Contempt of Court. $325.00 per month is the payment. Not certain of the backpay she owed.This was Monday day before Haleigh was taken,I wonder,could someone have planned to make Ronald look bad?Really bad,bad enough to make him lose custody and this custody battle has went on for three years,Crystal owing $325 a month and not being able to pay it.She has a new baby,getting ready to be married.People are focused at them living an hour away,they have relatives right in Satsuma.

The first video in today's news, the anchor says she is 4100.00 behind in payments. That is a full year I believe that she is behind on.
 
Someone posted this on the NG thread last night:
http://www.clipsyndicate.com/publish/video/845635/haleigh_s_family_speaks

Usually in this case I can think of a couple difference scenarios for pretty much everything, but I'm really confused by this report that Crystal was taken by LE to an abandoned house. Can anyone think of reasons for this, anything on either side of the argument??

I have been pondering this since I found it at 3:30 this morning. Did LE think at some point Haleigh was there, and took Crystal just to see her reaction? Have they took anyone else to the house? From watching the video, I think they took her and brought her right back? IDK, this is yet another thing that brings up more questions than answers. Could Haleigh have said they played around there and they wanted to see if Crystal recognized anything that Haleigh had mentioned?
 
The first video in today's news, the anchor says she is 4100.00 behind in payments. That is a full year I believe that she is behind on.

Wow, I was really leaning toward the fact that Crystal owing the child support and that contempt hearing didn't really "mean" anything in this case... But jeeze louise, that IS a chunk of change!
 
I have been pondering this since I found it at 3:30 this morning. Did LE think at some point Haleigh was there, and took Crystal just to see her reaction? Have they took anyone else to the house? From watching the video, I think they took her and brought her right back? IDK, this is yet another thing that brings up more questions than answers. Could Haleigh have said they played around there and they wanted to see if Crystal recognized anything that Haleigh had mentioned?

I'm confounded about this one! Since Crystal didn't live around there, and didn't know Haleigh's day to day activities/clothes/toys/habits when she was at Ron's (I would presume, or at least she couldn't know much) this leaves me totally stumped! Wouldn't LE bring Dad or Misty if they found something?? The only thing I'm thinking is maybe the media just got it "wrong".
 
I'm confounded about this one! Since Crystal didn't live around there, and didn't know Haleigh's day to day activities/clothes/toys/habits when she was at Ron's (I would presume, or at least she couldn't know much) this leaves me totally stumped! Wouldn't LE bring Dad or Misty if they found something?? The only thing I'm thinking is maybe the media just got it "wrong".

If they got it wrong, and it was say Misty they took there....well...IDK. I wonder how far this house is from their trailer?

ETA...Crystal's Dad lives close, wonder if the house was around his place?
 
If they got it wrong, and it was say Misty they took there....well...IDK. I wonder how far this house is from their trailer?

I went back and tried to look through the original discussion threads where people had pointed out abandoned properties but I gave trying to figure it out since there seemed to be a lot in the area.

What seems a little strange to me is: It seemed LE was leaving Crystal's side alone pretty much, it took so long for the polys, etc. Then we had GR interview and more "activity" surrounding them happened. At first I thought it was just to get info on Ron, etc. not that they were being looked at. But now I'm confused... taking Crystal to the abandoned house, the fact that it's come out she owes soo much money... IDK. I wonder if LE became more suspicious of them because of something they said in the GR interviews... I'm totally confused.
 
If they got it wrong, and it was say Misty they took there....well...IDK. I wonder how far this house is from their trailer?

ETA...Crystal's Dad lives close, wonder if the house was around his place?

Good point about the Dad... esp. after talking about him last nite on the NG thread... I'm having a hard time with this because I pushed that side out of mind as any kind of suspects (I have no idea why LOL)... I don't even think I knew the dad lived that close to Cummings until yesterday, for some reason I never retained that info in my head.
 
Wow, I was really leaning toward the fact that Crystal owing the child support and that contempt hearing didn't really "mean" anything in this case... But jeeze louise, that IS a chunk of change!

I knew she was behind enough for the court to make a ruling of contempt. I didn't know the exact figure.

I have several theories of why Haleigh disappeared. None include a RSO or SO abduction.

My theory that would involve Bio-mom and/or family is that because the custody of the children has been so long and somewhat bitter.

That she arranged for Haleigh to be elsewhere. Part of that plan would be for her to get Jr. by default. She would move with her new husband possibly and live with all of her children.

She didn't anticipate all the media coverage. It's rare that cases become high profile. Children disappear every day. In fact, just lately we've seen that a brother and sister who had been abducted by their grandfather were just located after twenty years missing.

This is the best scenario for Haleigh's disappearance. I pray that this is what has happened. Because if it has, I feel in from the bottom of my heart that bio-mom would have her in a safe place. I dont' doubt she loves her child.

There have been comments made to the media by bio-mom's Mother that have caught my eye lately. Saying that she feels Haleigh is out of state, that she is well and she is being taken care of, in fact yesterday she said it didnt' bother her at all that the searches have been called off.

If we look at those statements being made, and the theory I outlined loosely above. Haleigh just may be safe and alive and family does know that is okay.

*fingers crossed*
 
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