GUILTY CA - Eliza Delacruz, 3 wks, Long Beach, 4 Jan 2015
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So how can LE rely on her testimony? Just fill in when it does not match the evidence?
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O/T but . . .
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LE won't rely on how many gun shots the neighbor heard. LE has to figure this out. We just don't have much released info yet to understand what happened in this case. Many here are concerned the shooter got across the border. LE needs someone to come forward with a tip, then maybe a police sketch or a name of the suspect to catch him. I sure hope this gets solved.
Candlelight vigil to be held tonight for baby Eliza.
http://www.presstelegram.com/genera...beach-infant-eliza-delacruz-to-be-held-friday
http://lbpost.com/news/2000005226-candlelight-vigil-for-eliza-delacruz-to-be-held-tonight
http://www.presstelegram.com/genera...beach-infant-eliza-delacruz-to-be-held-friday
http://lbpost.com/news/2000005226-candlelight-vigil-for-eliza-delacruz-to-be-held-tonight
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It is also possible that if Mom was shot while SITTING... and Dad STOOD UP to confront the shooter...
That he was hit by a bullet that passed through Mom and hit him.
It is possible the shooter was in a hurry and just saw Dad fall and thought that was good enough. :twocents:
Or the neighbor just didn't hear one of the shots. :twocents:
That he was hit by a bullet that passed through Mom and hit him.
It is possible the shooter was in a hurry and just saw Dad fall and thought that was good enough. :twocents:
Or the neighbor just didn't hear one of the shots. :twocents:
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IF the father is not involved (and I can't get that bad feeling to go away), I believe it is him the shooter was punishing! I wonder if they originally took Eliza to try and get a ransom off the family and when she died either during the shoot out or in transit they quickly get rid of the evidence. There are no visible marks to Eliza's body so it sounds like she may have been suffocated....either as a result of her mother falling on her because she had been shot or as a result of being shoved in a bag/case whatever by the shooter.
This case reminds me of one here in the UK, over 20 years ago now a young mum ( I think she was 17) woke to feed her newborn son, she propped herself up in her bed and started breast feeding. Tragically, she fell asleep and the baby rolled onto the bed and she threw her arm over his face while she was asleep and suffocated him. She was so scared she would be accused of murder, she told people he had been taken by social services at first, then when people grew suspicious she said her had been kidnapped. There was a lot of sympathy for her, someone set up a fund for her to help her out. She ended up dumping the body and when he was found, more people donated and sent messages of support. Thankfully within a week the physical evidence, COD and TOD led the police to her and she was charged with manslaughter and concealing a death. She was found not guilty although she had to spend sometime in an institution. She admitted years later that the idea of more money had motivated her to dump her son's body. She lived just up the road from me and I can remember people crying about the case, I was only 12 I think and it stayed with me all this time.
This case reminds me of one here in the UK, over 20 years ago now a young mum ( I think she was 17) woke to feed her newborn son, she propped herself up in her bed and started breast feeding. Tragically, she fell asleep and the baby rolled onto the bed and she threw her arm over his face while she was asleep and suffocated him. She was so scared she would be accused of murder, she told people he had been taken by social services at first, then when people grew suspicious she said her had been kidnapped. There was a lot of sympathy for her, someone set up a fund for her to help her out. She ended up dumping the body and when he was found, more people donated and sent messages of support. Thankfully within a week the physical evidence, COD and TOD led the police to her and she was charged with manslaughter and concealing a death. She was found not guilty although she had to spend sometime in an institution. She admitted years later that the idea of more money had motivated her to dump her son's body. She lived just up the road from me and I can remember people crying about the case, I was only 12 I think and it stayed with me all this time.
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Double post! Sorry!
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When I look at this picture of an infant Eliza sleeping peacefully it evokes such a feeling of peace like everything is right in the world. Then, I remember what happened to this innocent child and it breaks my heart. She was precious. The word "was" is the tragedy.
Whoever dared to go into their home and shoot her family and take her away is a cold-hearted criminal who needs to be off the streets for a long time. Someone knows something and they need to overcome their fear and talk to LE to help solve this case.
If the family didn't have a lot of money than kidnapping for ransom wouldn't be the motive.
Certainly that is a very strange case.
I wonder if the uncle and the mother are able to talk at all at this time. What do they say happened?
How do we know what the evidence is? Potentially there could be an explanation for why there were two shots (if there were only two shots).
For example, a bullet could have gone through mother or uncle, hit the floor, then father's leg.
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Good point about them having no money, that more or less rules out kidnap for ransom. What I don't understand is WHY the father isn't talking more, I mean they have released his name and, from what I can see, he is still in the home not protective housing. I can understand he is apprehensive but this 'person' attempted to murder his girlfriend/wife, his brother and took away his newborn baby girl and killed her. The last thing on my mind would be my own safety, I would want to see my daughter get the justice she deserved by LE finding the perp and ensuring he got the very harshest punishment possible. It doesn't make sense.
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The neighbors on the family's street haven't seemed to come forward in leaving as much of a memorial for Eliza as the residents of Imperial Beach where her body was found. I don't know what it means, but it bugged me. I guess it speaks to me of some kind of fear within the Long Beach neighborhood for some reason, or like they know more to this story and don't want to get involved. ???
about Eliza's neighborhood street
http://www.presstelegram.com/genera...beach-infant-eliza-delacruz-to-be-held-friday
"When she visited the scene and saw the memorial in front of the home where a gunman shot Elizas parents before abducting her, she was shocked."
I expected a big community outpour, Hawkins said. That block should have been full (of flowers and candles). We have to come together as a community. Theyve got to stop this killing.
about the Imperial Beach residents creating a memorial for Eliza
http://www.imperialbeachnewsca.com/news/article_462350d0-9766-11e4-844b-a7361fd9d62c.html
"...brought a blanket she had knitted attaching a note that read You will always be loved. IB will always consider you one of their own.
"...left a stuffed animal and a note that read in part You now have wings and can be anywhere you want to go. We are so deeply saddened your innocent life was cut so short He/She will be found and justice will be served for the sweet city angel who landed among us
The neighbors on the family's street haven't seemed to come forward in leaving as much of a memorial for Eliza as the residents of Imperial Beach where her body was found. I don't know what it means, but it bugged me. I guess it speaks to me of some kind of fear within the Long Beach neighborhood for some reason, or like they know more to this story and don't want to get involved. ???
about Eliza's neighborhood street
http://www.presstelegram.com/genera...beach-infant-eliza-delacruz-to-be-held-friday
"When she visited the scene and saw the memorial in front of the home where a gunman shot Elizas parents before abducting her, she was shocked."
I expected a big community outpour, Hawkins said. That block should have been full (of flowers and candles). We have to come together as a community. Theyve got to stop this killing.
about the Imperial Beach residents creating a memorial for Eliza
http://www.imperialbeachnewsca.com/news/article_462350d0-9766-11e4-844b-a7361fd9d62c.html
"...brought a blanket she had knitted attaching a note that read You will always be loved. IB will always consider you one of their own.
"...left a stuffed animal and a note that read in part You now have wings and can be anywhere you want to go. We are so deeply saddened your innocent life was cut so short He/She will be found and justice will be served for the sweet city angel who landed among us
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Certainly they must know there's a victim relief fund in California that will pay for funeral expenses.........
http://vcgcb.ca.gov/victims/
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will cover loss of income as well
Maybe not. I didn't know about this.
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http://www.justiceformurderedchildren.org/
is run by Lawanda Hawkins and she is the person who wishes to assist the family
(taken from this link provided upthread)
http://www.presstelegram.com/genera...beach-infant-eliza-delacruz-to-be-held-friday
Victims services of the police department would also provide the family with information on assistance given that they were victims of crime.
is run by Lawanda Hawkins and she is the person who wishes to assist the family
(taken from this link provided upthread)
http://www.presstelegram.com/genera...beach-infant-eliza-delacruz-to-be-held-friday
Victims services of the police department would also provide the family with information on assistance given that they were victims of crime.
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http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-...her-launches-an-activist-group-to-help-others
"Asked if she was proud of her work, Hawkins said, “I would have preferred not to have my child murdered.”
"Asked if she was proud of her work, Hawkins said, “I would have preferred not to have my child murdered.”
I received compensation from the CVOC fund as a crime victim and it was truly a lifesaver for me. It helped pay for lost wages, etc, I have wonderful health insurance so did not require any financial help for that; however many of the members in my support group could not have afforded the therapy necessary to help us move forward. They also pay for funerals, etc. for deceased crime victims. One of the best thing about the program is that while it receives federal funds, it receives funding from the "restitution fund." This is monies paid in restitution by criminals, fines, etc. and is matched by the federal funds. Nice to see criminals actually provide some real help to victims.
Police, crime victim advocates, etc. provide this information to victims and their families almost immediately. They also continue to reiterate the info as necessary since people tend to be so confused during such difficult times.
Police, crime victim advocates, etc. provide this information to victims and their families almost immediately. They also continue to reiterate the info as necessary since people tend to be so confused during such difficult times.