CA - Joey, Summer, Gianni, Joseph Jr McStay Murders - Feb 4th 2010 #2

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 22m22 minutes ago
#McStay - Court is on lunch recess until 1:30pm PST/4:30pm EST. I will plan to tweet/blog more when they return.

 

[Tortoise]

Savage: Possibly. I believe the cause of death is Blunt Force Trauma and manner is Homicide, from what the Prosecution said the Coroner's conclusion was in OS and didn't the Anthropologist also state that today? Why do some think they were beaten AFTER death? I haven't heard anything like that from the few days I've been watching. Thanks

Also, the large bone was JM's Sr Fibula/Tibia (Leg) bone.

Oh I thought she went on to discuss the leg bone after that part I saw, but I haven't been paying close attention because I'll watch it on catch up without all the stops. I wondered if it was his collarbone because I tuned in just at the moment she was using McGee as a dummy (hehe) to point out for the jury which bone was which.

 

[Tortoise]

If it was the collarbone I can see that happening if a frenzied blow of the sledgehammer aimed at the head missed or carried on crashing down past the head.

 

[Edmo]

Oh I thought she went on to discuss the leg bone after that part I saw, but I haven't been paying close attention because I'll watch it on catch up without all the stops. I wondered if it was his collarbone because I tuned in just at the moment she was using McGee as a dummy (hehe) to point out for the jury which bone was which.

She talked about the leg, a child's rib and a child's fractured skull as well. Those are the "injuries" I was referring to, sorry about the mix up.

 

[Tortoise]

She talked about the leg, a child's rib and a child's fractured skull as well. Those are the "injuries" I was referring to, sorry about the mix up.

No you could be right, I wasn't concentrating.

 

[geevee]

I find the stream so bad I prefer to watch on YouTube catchup

I did that for OP's trial, for stream reasons as well as it being live when it was the middle of the night for me.

 

[Edmo]

No you could be right, I wasn't concentrating.

I may have missed the collarbone part. Makes sense about a missed strike. It could also be from someone from behind to incapacitate them as well.

 

[Edmo]

Watching Sgt Hart testify about the initial bone locations was fascinating. Some were found more than a football field length away ! I didn't know that, thought they were close to the gravesites. His initial measuring link ended at 224 feet and he had to establish a 2nd "stake" to measure from there.

Also, I noticed how CM hair is greying, along with his goatee. He hunches in is seat, uses eyeglasses etc. The Defense wants to present him to the jury as old and frail, IMO. Most of the time defendants appear in court in their Sunday best to impress a jury, IMO

 

[Plumeria5]

CM is left-handed, is that correct? Would the location of the fractures suggest a left-handed person as opposed to a right-handed?

 

[Tortoise]

CM is left-handed, is that correct? Would the location of the fractures suggest a left-handed person as opposed to a right-handed?

Good point! Yes he has been using his left hand to write notes in the courtroom and I noticed in a picture posted here today of him digging a hole he was holding the shovel handle with his left hand. I don't know if they could tie that to the fractures though, I suppose it depends where he was standing.

 

[Edmo]

CM is left-handed, is that correct? Would the location of the fractures suggest a left-handed person as opposed to a right-handed?

I don't know which handed he is? We do know that MS Sr Leg was hit from the front (fibula) and broke the back (tibia). I don't know if it was his right or left leg, I missed that part.

It would also depend whether you are facing someone, or hitting them from behind, IMO.

 

[Edmo]

Stream is up

 

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 2m2 minutes ago
#McStay - Court is back in session. Dr. Grey, anthropologist continues under cross exam. She's been the only witness today. Watch Live: https://lawandcrime.com/live-trials/live-trials-current/charles-merritt/watch-live-charles-merritt-trial-for-murder-of-couple-and-children-2/ …

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[asyousay]

Seeing all the bones just makes me feel sick. This is all that’s left of a once happy vibrate family who had everything to live for.

It’s beyond words.

 

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 29s29 seconds ago
#McStay - Dr. Grey says the fracture on Summer's jaw, 'takes a lot of force, " to break it like that. "Great deal of force"

 

[Force Ten]

Was it these?

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43.20

Yes.

 

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 4m4 minutes ago
#McStay - Grey says it was an upwards strike to Summer's jaw, in her opinion.

 

[Emi]

Cathy Russon on Twitter
Cathy Russon‏ @cathyrusson 2m2 minutes ago
#McStay - Judge now asking Dr. Grey questions. Was there animal activity at both graves?
Yes
Can that affect, if you have a body placed in a grave and buried, they will stay in the same position if not disturbed?
Yes
Animal activity could change the positions of the bodies.

 

[Edmo]

Judge is a Rockstar jumping in there for the Prosecution !!

 

[Tortoise]

Ooh the interview with detectives coming up.

 

[Force Ten]

Wow! I never knew that. Thanks.

I should have also noted Wheeler also disappeared from Las Vegas, gambling capital of the world.