Found Deceased CA - Maricela Garcia, 26, Reseda, 12 Jan 2017 #2

[GigTu]

In reading about pimps and prostitution, which goes hand in hand with trafficking on a different level, more voluntary.... What seems to be the case is the pimp will get a girl (or boy) hooked on drugs to the point that they'll say and do anything to make sure they continuously get their fix. If Mari is being pimped out, it might be considered voluntary because she won't want to leave her drug source. At that point, prostitution is a numb act and their so checked out that it's just practically a dream. All that matters is that next hit. Until someone intervenes, or the person dies I guess. I also suppose that could go I for years.

It is not at all out of the realm of possibilities that her big secret was absolutely related to drugs and "earning good money" as an escort. However, if someone is keeping her drugged, she isn't seeing that money at this point.

Which part of that seems voluntary, if it's the case, this deep in?

 

[GigTu]

I have not posted on FB yet, but I am working on a search plan for a week from today. One month anniversary
I'd like to search areas where she could have been dumped AND I'd specifically like to talk to people in other specific areas. If any locals have time this week or anyone can look on Google Earth....any areas of high foliage, dense underbrush, empty lots/fields and that wash...Id like to get things planned. Even if it is only four of us, I want to cover as much ground as possible. I think she might be out there.

Ill try to help as much as I can around my unrealistic work schedule.

 

[mbison]

In reading about pimps and prostitution, which goes hand in hand with trafficking on a different level, more voluntary.... What seems to be the case is the pimp will get a girl (or boy) hooked on drugs to the point that they'll say and do anything to make sure they continuously get their fix. If Mari is being pimped out, it might be considered voluntary because she won't want to leave her drug source. At that point, prostitution is a numb act and their so checked out that it's just practically a dream. All that matters is that next hit. Until someone intervenes, or the person dies I guess. I also suppose that could go I for years.

It is not at all out of the realm of possibilities that her big secret was absolutely related to drugs and "earning good money" as an escort. However, if someone is keeping her drugged, she isn't seeing that money at this point.

Which part of that seems voluntary, if it's the case, this deep in?

I think this is plausible, but makes a lot of pessimistic assumptions. People run away for a lot of reasons. We only have half the story here, and that half is suspect at this point. I think Misti has done tremendous work here, but at this point, I'm inclined to gently suggest backing off a little and letting the family deal with this on their own. It's really hard to help somebody who doesn't want your help.

 

[GigTu]

So...... Mari's YouTube handle is maricelabobella. When you google that (maricelabobella youtube) you get taken down a pretty unsavory path.

 

[mistivon]

As I said, more will be revealed tomorrow that will explain some things. I wish I could explain now but I can't. Maybe it wont. IDK anymore.
I still do not believe she is voluntarily missing ALTHOUGH I might have 10% of my brain admitting to that whereas before I had 0% if that makes sense. I think Mari, sadly, is gone. Or not in the state.
The phone found was the one she used for Postmates and for communicating to an extent. The phone which was the hotspot has not been located. It is my feeling they were both thrown in the dumpster at the same time and the one just missed. Could be way off base there too.
I had backed off and was contacted and asked for my help. I can't leave it alone when they are still out there searching. I feel like I've been here from the beginning and I have to stay until the end, whatever that may be. As long as there is a chance that she is alive and being held somewhere, I have to do what I can. I'm sorry

 

[GigTu]

Why are you sorry?

Just don't forget your a mom and wife, and unfortunately for Maricela - that family unit of yours needs to come first.

 

[code4SAR]

Thanks for the video info. I'll check it out.

Medical Privacy laws are very strict. LE could get info but not anyone else unless she approved it. She would need to sign a release. She may have been moved from Urgent Care to a Recovery Facility very quickly. Or, maybe she never went to a facility... just someplace safe.

Just a possibility to add to your list.

It's LA. Unless she was a violent threat held under the 5150 law she'd be released on the street within 72 hours if taken voluntary or unvoluntary. Recovery centers are for profit facilities who charge thousands of dollars a day for patients and do not take in any patients without insurance. A police report would've been made if there was a women who was DOA or overdosed and died on the premises. So I don't think she's hiding in an unknown free recovery center that a concerned citizen took her to, or the hospital transferred to, especially since her case has been on all the major local news networks. Now, could someone of seen her nodding off and taken advantage of her, maybe. Could it be someone she knows, maybe, but I'm guessing she's not hiding in a drug rehab or hiding at all.

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[marinthinker]

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that she's hiding or in a facility. I wanted to suggest that it's possible that she's safe and recovering somewhere. I don't know what's available in LA but I know my sister in LA has no money and is being sheltered somewhere. Is it wrong to have hope?

It's LA. Unless she was a violent threat held under the 5150 law she'd be released on the street within 72 hours if taken voluntary or unvoluntary. Recovery centers are for profit facilities who charge thousands of dollars a day for patients and do not take in any patients without insurance. A police report would've been made if there was a women who was DOA or overdosed and died on the premises. So I don't think she's hiding in an unknown free recovery center that a concerned citizen took her to, or the hospital transferred to, especially since her case has been on all the major local news networks. Now, could someone of seen her nodding off and taken advantage of her, maybe. Could it be someone she knows, maybe, but I'm guessing she's not hiding in a drug rehab or hiding at all.

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[mistivon]

Ok, I need some help.
There was a lady that attends class at Kaiser that says there is a halfway house right at the end of those apartments, almost immediately behind where the dumpster is. I can't find anything. Can anyone help?

There is one almost directly across from GW and a few others right in that area. I am particularly looking for the one the Kaiser student mentioned. Leese, would you happen to know?

 

[mst]

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[mistivon]

Thanks so much. I will see where these places are on a map.

 

[GigTu]

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that she's hiding or in a facility. I wanted to suggest that it's possible that she's safe and recovering somewhere. I don't know what's available in LA but I know my sister in LA has no money and is being sheltered somewhere. Is it wrong to have hope?

No, it's beautiful to have hope.

 

[mistivon]

There are so so so many right there. So many treatment centers, so many drug houses. What a difficult thing that would be for someone trying to get sober.
I don't see ANY located near that Kaiser, tho. They are all the other side of the GW...but very ,very close.

 

[IllinoisMissing]

This is just based on personal experience with trying to get my son help with drug and alcohol addiction. And Illinois may be different, but we never found a center to take him without insurance or family with resources to pay cash. The few that might have had impossibly long waiting lists.

I don't think she's in a facility.

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[Leese12]

Hi Mistivon, No I am not familiar with that.....sorry.

But I am curious about that spot behind the dumpster. I did not have a good feeling about it when I seen it the night of the vigil. I had no idea what was behind that area, it def looked strange & dark too.

Still hoping for the best!

 

[GigTu]

Let's consider a theoretical play. In chapter 1, my part is "unsavory character". Maricela's part is "random delivery girl". There's also a "Creeper" and a "Snitch" in my little scene.

I, an unsavory character, order something to be delivered through PostMates. When the random delivery girl arrives, I see she is very pretty. And being that I'm an unsavory character, I decide she would be the perfect candidate for some unsavory deeds I need done.

So I, the unsavory character, say to the random delivery girl, "How would you like to make some quick cash, easy money on the side?"

Random delivery girl asks what I have in mind.

"Just deliver this box to destination A. Once you get there, Creeper will pay you."

"That's it?"

"Yeah. If you do a good job, you can make a lot more money where this is coming from."

Random delivery girl sees stars in her eyes.

"But I'm going to need to know how to contact you."

They exchange info.

When she gets to destination A, Creeper is eagerly awaiting. He thinks she's pretty, and could make a lot more, big cash money with some of his contacts that like pretty girls.

Random delivery girl always secretly fantasizes about being a Playboy model, so she gets flattered and has stars in her eyes. She imagines terrific shopping trips with all that dough. It goes how it goes, and ends how it ends.

What does chapter 2 possibility look like?

 

[mpnola]

There is information that has just come out, which is why some of it was leaked on Friday. The rest will be public knowledge tomorrow for the most part. There is an independent witness who verified Mari had recently been at the church. Some more will make sense tomorrow....I know in what the fear is rooted and they are absolutely right to be secretive and scared. You will have to take my word for that.

BUT.....I do now have a question. IF, let's just say, IF, Mari was strung out, drugged up whatever you want to call it, NOT being held captive....could she really be so out of it after three weeks that she wouldn't know she was missing? I am not familiar with heroin and picture in my head people lying on dirty mattresses in a big house. I know that's a fallacy for the most part, but I know there truly are some houses like that...and some nearby. Would someone really be out of it that long? If someone were pimping her out so to speak, and keeping her shot up, I see it, but on her own free will?
May be a dumb question. I am just not familiar with the addict in the street type mentality

A person who wants to actively use would likely NOT want to be found. To be found means to be pressured/ forced into not using and to stay clean. So, she would likely KNOW she was missing, but wouldn't be ready to go back into the clean and sober lifestyle again, yet. Of course, the longer and more often you use, the stronger the addiction gets and the more dangerous the entire situation gets.

 

[katydid23]

Let's consider a theoretical play. In chapter 1, my part is "unsavory character". Maricela's part is "random delivery girl". There's also a "Creeper" and a "Snitch" in my little scene.

I, an unsavory character, order something to be delivered through PostMates. When the random delivery girl arrives, I see she is very pretty. And being that I'm an unsavory character, I decide she would be the perfect candidate for some unsavory deeds I need done.

So I, the unsavory character, say to the random delivery girl, "How would you like to make some quick cash, easy money on the side?"

Random delivery girl asks what I have in mind.

"Just deliver this box to destination A. Once you get there, Creeper will pay you."

"That's it?"

"Yeah. If you do a good job, you can make a lot more money where this is coming from."

Random delivery girl sees stars in her eyes.

"But I'm going to need to know how to contact you."

They exchange info.

When she gets to destination A, Creeper is eagerly awaiting. He thinks she's pretty, and could make a lot more, big cash money with some of his contacts that like pretty girls.

Random delivery girl always secretly fantasizes about being a Playboy model, so she gets flattered and has stars in her eyes. She imagines terrific shopping trips with all that dough. It goes how it goes, and ends how it ends.

What does chapter 2 possibility look like?

All of the above is believable---except I don't think Postmates would be likely to be connected.

If someone wants to order a delivery by PM, one needs to give a lot of identifying information. You need to give your personal identification, your charge card info, your address, telephone number and they have your IP address. So it seems like a risky thing to give all of that info, and then try to do something shady involving their people. Anyone living in Venice Beach would have immediate and free access to dozens of attractive young women, without having to get involved with one who could connect you and identify you so easily as PostMates can. JMO

 

[code4SAR]

I'm not sure if you're aware that a majority of residential halfway recovery facilities in Southern California are known to be financed by prison gangs who have funded purchases for homes and so called doctors who will turn a 4 bedroom into 8 bedrooms to house as many parolees as they can because insurance companies pay astounding amounts of money for their so called treatment. In areas where these facilities are located there has always been a high increase of rape, burglaries, robberies, along with increased substance abuse. Overwhelming how many recovery and methadone clinics are in MG's area alone. I don't know if any of those in the area per say are related to anything nepharious but they all attract some very unsavory people into the neighborhood.

There are so so so many right there. So many treatment centers, so many drug houses. What a difficult thing that would be for someone trying to get sober.
I don't see ANY located near that Kaiser, tho. They are all the other side of the GW...but very ,very close.

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[mistivon]

Nope, didn't know that. This world is completely new to me.
One thing about PM. Is Thai food really that popular that it would not be unusual to have two different people calling from two different restaurants both within an hour and a half of each other? Lots of cuisines I can see...but Thai? Doesn't that seem strange?
FYI, one other detail. The foil was intact on the cigarette pack in the car. It does not rule out that she had a pack on her, but it seems less likely that is where she went for that purpose.

I'm not sure if you're aware that a majority of residential halfway recovery facilities in Southern California are known to be financed by prison gangs who have funded purchases for homes and so called doctors who will turn a 4 bedroom into an 8 bedrooms to house as many parolees as they can because insurance companies pay astounding amounts of money for their so called treatment. In areas where these facilities are located there has always been a high increase of rape, burglaries, robberies, along with increased substance abuse. Overwhelming how many recovery and methadone clinics are in MG's area alone. I don't know if any of those in the area per say are related to anything nepharious but they all attract some very unsavory people into the neighborhood.



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