CA CA - Valencia, 2 WhtFems UP4388 & 4389, 17-35, in riverbed near I-5, Jan'80

[SimsGuy67]

Submitted to DoeNetwork

Have you heard anything back concerning Wanda? It seemed quite possible. I'm sure she would have been denied or accepted by the panel by now.

 

[HmmMysterious]

Have you heard anything back concerning Wanda? It seemed quite possible. I'm sure she would have been denied or accepted by the panel by now.

Nope, nothing yet

 

[SimsGuy67]

Nope, nothing yet

I normally email them asking if it had been accepted so you can try that if you want.

 

[HmmMysterious]

I normally email them asking if it had been accepted so you can try that if you want.

Just emailed the Potential Match Coordinator of Doe Network. I hope I get a response soon.

 

[HmmMysterious]

Wanda Priddy has been ruled out as 1367UFCA through dentals.

 

[HmmMysterious]

I think this girl could be either of these Jane Does: Corinne Groenenberg

DLC: November 1, 1973
Location: Modesto, California

Age: 16 years old
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 115 lbs\
Dentals: Available
DNA: Available

Circumstances: Left home and started to hitchhike along a highway. She was last seen getting into a blue or green truck driven by a man.

 

[SimsGuy67]

I think this girl could be either of these Jane Does: Corinne Groenenberg

DLC: November 1, 1973
Location: Modesto, California

Age: 16 years old
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 115 lbs\
Dentals: Available
DNA: Available

Circumstances: Left home and started to hitchhike along a highway. She was last seen getting into a blue or green truck driven by a man.

If the truck driver didn't murder he she could have been closer to Valencia and could have been murdered closer to the estimated date of death.

 

[SimsGuy67]

I have submitted a match between Lisa and this Doe to the LASD Homicide Cold Case Unit since NamUs has not responded with an email.

 

[SimsGuy67]

I found a new more match for UP4388. May have been considered though. Not too sure.
Wendy Bryon went missing in late summer 1978. This would match up with Lisa Sprague who I strongly believe could be UP4389. If you actually make a route from Glendora to Ventura to Valencia and then back to Glendora it makes a triangular route that would take 3 hours to make. If we remove Lisa Sprague from the route it takes an hour to get from Glendora to Valencia. I will not do a table YET as I don't know if she was considered or not. I will do a side by side though.

Wendy's face may be a little less long than the Doe's but both seem to have the same nose. This photo of Wendy was also taken in 1970 to my knowledge and peoples faces change in 8 years.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

I found a new more match for UP4388. May have been considered though. Not too sure.
Wendy Bryon went missing in late summer 1978. This would match up with Lisa Sprague who I strongly believe could be UP4389. If you actually make a route from Glendora to Ventura to Valencia and then back to Glendora it makes a triangular route that would take 3 hours to make. If we remove Lisa Sprague from the route it takes an hour to get from Glendora to Valencia. I will not do a table YET as I don't know if she was considered or not. I will do a side by side though.

Wendy's face may be a little less long than the Doe's but both seem to have the same nose. This photo of Wendy was also taken in 1970 to my knowledge and peoples faces change in 8 years.

Here is the Wendy Byron thread:

CA - CA - Wendy Byron, 24, Glendora, 26 Aug 1978

The Doe Network: Case File 877DFCA http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/877dfca.html Wendy Susan Byron Missing since August 26, 1978 from Glendora, Los Angeles County, California. Classification: Endangered Missing...

www.websleuths.com

 

[HmmMysterious]

Has Roxanne Sims been considered yet for UP4388

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Has Roxanne Sims been considered yet for UP4388
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Roxanne Sims' thread:

OR - OR - Roxanne Sims, 18, Portland, 31 Dec 1977

Multnomah County, Oregon 18 to 19 year old white female Height: 66 Weight: 125 Hair: Brown; Light brown/chestnut, straight/shoulder-length; sometimes wore large, light brown "Afro" wig. Possibly a small...

www.websleuths.com

 

[SimsGuy67]

Has Roxanne Sims been considered yet for UP4388
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Not 100% sure but I don't think so. I'd submit if everything lines up! There is a strong resemblance. Also, lets hope 2023 is the year these girls get their names.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Not 100% sure but I don't think so. I'd submit if everything lines up! There is a strong resemblance. Also, lets hope 2023 is the year these girls get their names.

I would also like both of them to get their names but I think that it will not be possible for at least one of them, 1367UFCA does not have DNA so it would be difficult to identify it without DNA.

1367UFCA


On the other hand 1322UFCA does have DNA so if a successful identification would be possible, I hope they can work the genetic genealogy on it (I suggest Othram or the DNA Doe Project).

1322UFCA

 

[SimsGuy67]

I would also like both of them to get their names but I think that it will not be possible for at least one of them, 1367UFCA does not have DNA so it would be difficult to identify it without DNA.

1367UFCA


On the other hand 1322UFCA does have DNA so if a successful identification would be possible, I hope they can work the genetic genealogy on it (I suggest Othram or the DNA Doe Project).

1322UFCA

Well. We know where she is buried right? They could exhume her for DNA. Lets see if @othram can work on her case.

 

[HmmMysterious]

Not 100% sure but I don't think so. I'd submit if everything lines up! There is a strong resemblance. Also, lets hope 2023 is the year these girls get their names.

Apparently Roxanne only has DNA available; Jane Doe only has dentals.

 

[SimsGuy67]

I ran another search for UP4388 and came up with a new potential match, Teresa McKinley. She seems to have disappeared voluntarily. She had tried to kill herself a month prior. This doesn't mean she did this time. If this is her, it could open a possibility of the two girls cases being unrelated and UP4388 drowning by suicide. After all, only UP4389's cause of death could truly be established as a homicide. Unlikely due to the circumstances, but possible. Here is a side by side and table:

	Valencia Jane Doe (1980) UP4388	Teresa Lynn McKinley MP18859
Sex	Likely Female	Female
Race	Likely White/Caucasian	White/Caucsian
Age	17 - 35	27
Height	5'4 - 5'7	5'3
Weight	120 - 140lbs	110lbs
DLC/DOD	1978 - 1980	September 16, 1979
Hair Color	Blond/Brown	Brown
Eye Color	Unknown	Green
Distinctive Features	One eye slightly lower.	None/Unknown
Circumstances	Found with UP4389	Car found at Lake Berryesa
Distance	Vacaville - Valencia	369 miles (5hr 23mins)

As always, let me know what you think!

 

[SimsGuy67]

@Caring1 UP4389's profile has been updated since the 13th. Has someone been excluded and is it Andria?

 

[Caring1]

@Caring1 UP4389's profile has been updated since the 13th. Has someone been excluded and is it Andria?

No new exclusions listed in NamUs for UP4389.

 

[Bit of hope]

I think this Jane Doe The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs) might be Sheryl Denise Taylor.

• Missing Since 07/20/1978
• Missing From Picher, Oklahoma
• Classification Endangered Missing
• Sex Female
• Race White
• Age 12 years old
• Height and Weight 4'0, 60 pounds <hard to believe the height is correct>
• Clothing/Jewelry Description A sweatshirt, yellow shorts and no shoes or socks.
• Distinguishing Characteristics Caucasian female. Red hair, hazel eyes. Sheryl is supposed to wear a patch over one eye, but she often takes it off

Sheryl Denise Taylor – The Charley Project