Deceased/Not Found Canada - Alvin, 66, & Kathy Liknes, 53, Nathan O'Brien, 5, Calgary, 30 Jun 2014 - #23

[PrincessButtercup]

Maybe DG took the fob to open and close the garage door?

Best theory I've heard yet!

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[Power of Two]

And the defence didn't question Oxton on any of the really compelling evidence like the blood in the truck, the DNA, etc.

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There was no mention of blood or DNA evidence in the cab of the green truck, so it looks like he drove to the farm with the 3 victims in the back. If they weren't deceased at that time, they must have been heavily restrained or drugged to make the trek to the farm without being detected. If there was a large amount of blood, would any of it have dripped down between the tailgate and box during transit? Pretty risky, given that someone could have pulled up behind the truck at a traffic light.

 

[PrincessButtercup]

There was no mention of blood or DNA evidence in the cab of the green truck, so it looks like he drove to the farm with the 3 victims in the back. If they weren't deceased at that time, they must have been heavily restrained or drugged to make the trek to the farm without being detected. If there was a large amount of blood, would any of it have dripped down between the tailgate and box during transit? Pretty risky, given that someone could have pulled up behind the truck at a traffic light.

There was a big roll of blue plastic outside of one of the outbuildings... maybe the inside of the truck was protected with it? Something else? Just thinking out loud

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[olivebpa1]

There was no mention of blood or DNA evidence in the cab of the green truck, so it looks like he drove to the farm with the 3 victims in the back. If they weren't deceased at that time, they must have been heavily restrained or drugged to make the trek to the farm without being detected. If there was a large amount of blood, would any of it have dripped down between the tailgate and box during transit? Pretty risky, given that someone could have pulled up behind the truck at a traffic light.

The blood found dripped down the tailgate and behind the licence plate was probably from when he cleaned the truck. The bloody water would have ran down the truck.

 

[aber]

RE: Evidence submitted & comments about defense cross-examination. I agree that they are doing a good job. I think that it's important to remind the jury that a significant amount of the evidence that was presented does not make DG guilty of anything and has not been directly linked to DG. From the parents testimony, IIRC, DG & his father purchased LOTS of chemicals and supplies. IOW, not everything was sourced and purchased individually but may have been part of an auction or some other larger, collective, purchase. IMO, the crown needs to establish that DG had enough tools and supplies to commit the crime from start to finish.. that he and he alone had the ability and equipment required to take the three victims from the house to the farm and to dispose of the remains without leaving evidence that may otherwise be expected to have been found.

Can anyone speak to jury instruction in regards to forming opinions or discussing opinions as to the accused's guilt? I think it's important that the evidence be given and considered in totality. I think the crown is using this evidence to support their belief that DG had equipment/supplies that could easily be used to carryout the crime that they will suggest (specifics of how they think it played out).

 

[Melzack]

Is it possible that he probably dressed up as a woman and went to the estate sale and took the fob and perhaps other items with him.? When the original pictures of his truck were released to the media weren't they taken during the day and described as a truck seen in the area numerous times? Maybe I'm misinformed...

 

[eyesofclay]

There was no mention of blood or DNA evidence in the cab of the green truck, so it looks like he drove to the farm with the 3 victims in the back. If they weren't deceased at that time, they must have been heavily restrained or drugged to make the trek to the farm without being detected. If there was a large amount of blood, would any of it have dripped down between the tailgate and box during transit? Pretty risky, given that someone could have pulled up behind the truck at a traffic light.

Wondering if they tested the gas pedal and brake for DNA.....

 

[Dodes]

I'm going to try to take over tweets for now but it's my first time so bear with me...

Lucas MeyerVerified account ‏@meyer_lucas 13m13 minutes agoMore



Crown's next witness is Brian Kalmbach, a neighbour of the Garlands #Garland #yyc


Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 13m13 minutes agoMore



Brian Kalmbach, one of Garland's neighbour's is the next witness-said #Garland lived "next door to the north of us"


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 13m13 minutes agoMore



Court is back in session with Brian Kalmback taking the stand. He is the neighbour of #Garland farm, south of south outbuildings . #yyc


Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland 13m13 minutes agoMore



Kalambach says he could see the #Garland farm from his home. Also knows Douglas Garland.


Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 13m13 minutes agoMore



Kalmbach said he knows Douglas #Garland -said June 30-July 4/14 was at his home. July 2 early morning 2-3am noticed activity on farm

 

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Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland 14m14 minutes agoMore



Kalambach was at home early in the morning of July 2. He noticed a light on in the greenhouse on the #Garland property.


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 14m14 minutes agoMore



The neighbour said he got up to go to the washroom and noticed a light on in #Garland greenhouse. "I can see the greenhouse clearly" #yyc


Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 14m14 minutes agoMore



“I got up to go to the washroom and noticed there was a light on in the greenhouse on #Garland’s property” Kalmbach said


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 14m14 minutes agoMore



Was it an unusual event? 'As far as I'm concerned it was' #Garland


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 15m15 minutes agoMore



He'd never noticed the light on in the greenhouse at that time of night before.

 

[sublimemumma]

It was in Alvin's pocket?

In his pj pocket?

 

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Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 15m15 minutes agoMore



Later that morning, he noticed "a fire on their property ... in the burning barrel area." #Garland


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 15m15 minutes agoMore



Kalmbach noticed a fire on their property in the burning barrel, 'seemed to be larger with black smoke.' #Garland


Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 15m15 minutes agoMore



"It seemed to be quite a bit" of smoke coming from burn barrel, agrees more than normal. #Garland


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 15m15 minutes agoMore



Kalmbach says in his opinion there was more smoke that normal coming from the #Garland farm burn barrel area. #yyc


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 15m15 minutes agoMore



Kalmbach says the Garland's had a Buick and a green Ford truck. #Garland


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 14m14 minutes agoMore



"It's the vehicle that Doug drives" Kalmbach says after being shown a picture of a green Ford pick-up truck. #Garland

 

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Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 14m14 minutes agoMore




"I followed him into town one day," two weeks before July long weekend 2014. #Garland


Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 14m14 minutes agoMore




Kalmbach never saw anyone but #Garland driving the green truck owned by the murder suspect's father.

Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 14m
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Other than the large amount of smoke from burn barrel and light on in greenhouse, Kalmbach didn't notice anything else unusual. #Garland


Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 14m14 minutes agoMore




Cross-examination of Kalmbach now by defence lawyer Kim Ross. #Garland


Valerie Fortney ‏@ValFortney 13m13 minutes agoMore




"You can't say that it's never happened before," says defence of greenhouse light on in middle of night. Kalmbach agrees. #Garland


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 13m13 minutes agoMore




Defence asks if Kalmbach can confirm the light was never on before, he agrees he cannot. #Garland


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 13m13 minutes agoMore




Kalmbach is done. Up next: CPS Sgt. Sarah Robison. #Garland

 

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Bill GravelandVerified account ‏@BillGraveland 13m13 minutes agoMore



Crown has called Sgt. Sarah Robison from Calgary Police Service. Works in forensic crime unit. #Garland


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 13m13 minutes agoMore



Next witness Sgt. Sarah Robison, member of CPS for 15 years, currently in Forensic Crime Scene Unit (8 years) #Garland #yyc


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 14m14 minutes agoMore



Robison is with the forensic crime scene unit. #Garland She helped with the processing of green Ford truck.


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 13m13 minutes agoMore



Robison said she was called at 4 a.m. July 5, 2014. She arrived at the bay where the vehicle was kept at 6 a.m. #Garland #yyc


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 13m13 minutes agoMore



Robison processed the vehicle on July 5, 2014. She arrived at the secure police facility where truck was being held at 6am #Garland


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 13m13 minutes agoMore



Before she processing, Robison said she was told it was involved in the missing persons case of Nathan O'Brien and the Likneses #Garland

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Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 13m13 minutes agoMore



"I understood that vehicle to be potentially involved in the missing persons file," says Robison of #Garland pickup.


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 12m12 minutes agoMore



Robison now going through a powerpoint of photos showing the Ford pick up. Vehicle was covered with a blue tarp when she arrived. #Garland


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 12m12 minutes agoMore



There was a biohazard bag in the back of the truck, on top of the tarp. #Garland


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 11m11 minutes agoMore



When processing the vehicle Robison said she wore a Tyvek suit and latex gloves #Garland #yyc


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 11m11 minutes agoMore



Now showing the back of the truck, the rear bumper. #Garland AB License plate number WTN-341


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 11m11 minutes agoMore



Robison confirms this is the same licence plate/truck that had Cam Clark Ford sticker on back driver side bumper #Garland


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 10m10 minutes agoMore



Robison points out some rust damage on the truck, some areas rusted right through. #Garland

 

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Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 8m8 minutes agoMore



Front driver side turn signal was "absent" and there appeared to be some damage Robison says of #Garland truck


Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 8m8 minutes agoMore



Front left turn signal on #Garland pickup was not functional. Couldn't find working bulb, says Robison.


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 8m8 minutes agoMore



Robison said she didn't note any damage on the front passenger side of the vehicle #Garland


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 7m7 minutes agoMore



Both the driver's and passenger's windows were tinted. #Garland


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 5m5 minutes agoMore



Robison says they removed the truck bed liner for a forensic examination. #Garland "In an effort to find DNA evidence."


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 5m5 minutes agoMore



Robison said she swabbed "multiple areas" of #Garland truck while processing it for evidence. #yyc


Ina SidhuVerified account ‏@CTVInaSidhu 5m5 minutes agoMore



Sgt. Robison took photos of truck, then began forensic exam, took multiple swabs to find DNA evidence #Garland


Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 5m5 minutes agoMore



Robison said she first swabbed areas-did presumptive testing for blood-if positive she took second swab for exbibit/testing #Garland


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 4m4 minutes agoMore



Robison did a presumptive Hemastick test first looking for blood, and then took a 2nd swab to be sent for testing #Garland


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 3m3 minutes agoMore



Robison had some positive results from the hemasticks in the truck bed liner, driver side door, steering wheel,trailer hitch #Garland

 

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Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 4m4 minutes agoMore



Positive results from within the truck bed liner. Also, driver's side door, area in steering wheel. Trailer hitch and receiver. #Garland


Lucas MeyerVerified account ‏@meyer_lucas 2m2 minutes agoMore



Robison got positive DNA results in: bed liner, driver door, steering wheel, trailer hitch/receiver. Swabs sent for analysis #Garland #yyc


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 2m2 minutes agoMore



Defence lawyer Jim Lutz objects to Crown question for Robison to compare a photo of the truck from side of road, to police bay. #Garland


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 2m2 minutes agoMore



Looking at photos of #Garland truck when seized at side of road Robison is asked if it appeared altered- confirms same vehicle #yyc


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 1m1 minute agoMore



Robison outlines process for taking and labelling swabs from vehicle. #Garland Found a stain on the front seat.

 

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Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 3m3 minutes agoMore



Swab from driver's seat, three locations in the truck bed liner, driver's side door, steering wheel, hitch receiver & chain #Garland


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 2m2 minutes agoMore



Robison removed the truck bed liner and performed a number of tests to detect blood #Garland


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 2m2 minutes agoMore



Robison also sprayed Blue Star (makes blood glow) on truck, results are immediate "I saw multiple results throughout the vehicle" #Garland


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 53s54 seconds agoMore



Items seized from vehicle: Truck keys, fibres from driver's side seat, pink towel laying on seat, fibres on rear plastic bed liner. #Garland


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 59s59 seconds agoMore



Robison seized the truck keys, pink towel from front seat, fibres on bed liner, dirt, floor mat, registration in Archie #Garland name #yyc


Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 1m1 minute agoMore



Robison said there were fibers located on the rear #Garland truck liner


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 1m1 minute agoMore



Robison seized some 'damp dirt' after getting a positive test, Also seized a floor mat and vehicle registration in Archie #Garland's name.

 

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Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 52s53 seconds agoMore



Robison said she tested the lights on the vehicle, all were working except driver side indicator and light inside cab (no bulb) #Garland


Bryan LabbyVerified account ‏@CBCBryan 1m1 minute agoMore



Interior cab light was not working, because it didn't have a bulb. Replaced the bulb and it worked fine. #Garland


Nancy HixtVerified account ‏@NancyHixt 42s43 seconds agoMore



Robison testifies she also does footwear/footprint comparisons--said she also reviewed prints from #Garland case


Lucie Edwardson ‏@MetroLucie 59s59 seconds agoMore



Robison said she reviewed footwear impression report of Sgt. Gallen. Had no concerns about Gallen's findings #Garland


Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts 40s40 seconds agoMore



Defence has no cross-examination for Sgt. Robison. #Garland

 

[JadeSLeuth]

I'm baaaack. Dodes, great job! Do you want help?

 

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Kevin MartinVerified account ‏@KMartinCourts [video=twitter;824736328260521984]https://twitter.com/KMartinCourts/status/824736328260521984[/video]More



Court takes early afternoon break in #Garland trial. Two more witnesses to come when case resumes.

Hopefully JadeSleuth or Kamille can take over tweets when court resumes. They're much better at it