Casey's Life in Jail, Visitors; Phone Calls; Commissary etc.#3

[wenwe4]

Did I miss something? Do we know for sure CM is leaving the defense or is that confirmed? Maybe CM decided it wasn't "fun" anymore - after he was directly quoted in the media throwing out yet another defense strategy. (Actually, I think the strategy all allong for the defense has been "baffle them with b.s." JMO).

three hours with a PhD is a significant amount of money . . . would this significant expense have to be pre-approved by the Judge or JAC or whoever holds the purse strings?

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Reginald Tony Moss
http://www.tonymosslaw.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=63&Itemid=47

'Since entering private practice, he has handled over 50 death-eligible cases, including four that were tried to a penalty-phase verdict, without losing a single client to Florida's Death Row.'

Hmmm prefer him to the last two, wonder how long he'll stay?

 

[JDzWife]

Could this be WHY JB wanted ICA's visitor log sealed??

 

[Solace]

did i miss something? Do we know for sure cm is leaving the defense or is that confirmed? Maybe cm decided it wasn't "fun" anymore - after he was directly quoted in the media throwing out yet another defense strategy. (

whattttttttttt?

 

[strawberry]

Could this be WHY JB wanted ICA's visitor log sealed??

That's what I said...it's gotta be!:angel:

 

[marspiter]

Complete and utter speculation, but what if it's not CM leaving or maybe more then just CM?......based on this jailhouse phone call and what that might contain.

Perhaps no one is leaving and another lawyer just thought this case would be "fun"?

 

[Horace Finklestein]

I'm not sure if there's much peer reviewed research to support this theory if that's what they try for. She was able to make sense of everything else in her life - stealing/spending money, sex, hanging with tony, etc. She was in pretty good shape and was getting along fine (for her).

Of course, the "twinkie defense" worked, so who knows what may happen. It certainly adds another dimension to her absolute evil if she sits by while the defense lies and destroys her father...who, although feckless, I don't think had anything to do with Caylee's murder either directly or indirectly.

 

[sleutherontheside]

Here is a link to an appeal filed by Tony Moss based on Ineffective Assistance of Counsel.
http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/flsupct/sc01-1501/01-1501rep.pdf

Just for light reading...... a snip

In that time, he had litigated not a single capital case through to the penalty
phase. Moreover, he had attended only one death penalty seminar.
(PCRS VII 1737-38). Yet, despite the fact that he was facing two
experienced prosecutors, he made no effort to seek the appointment
of a second-chair attorney. Similarly, he made no effort to retain
a private investigator.

Counsel’s failure to object to the cumulative and
inflammatory testimony of the victim’s mother and cousin
in the penalty phase

 

[jtsetj]

i havent followed this case in awhile and i am not surprised that the defense is now trying to throw GA under the bus. Casey will do anything or blame anyone, a typical nutcase. nothing new here. I pray the jury sees her for what she is and gives her the DP.

 

[wenwe4]

whattttttttttt?

Or, JB and CM could have taken an hour to tell her that the new DP qualified atty Moss was taking over (Moss visited her two days after ALyon officially left the case), and telling her that Mason would be leaving soon, and telling her that they have it all sewed up for her with the sexual abuse claims and the doctor who specializes in that area. IMO

When did we find out about this Moss guy? It's the first I've heard of him. I thought Cheney was DP qualified. (Just an assumption on my part....)

Mason is DP qualified ... and IF CM is leaving the case .... the Inmate MUST have a DP qualified atty to take his place. Enter new attorney Moss ....

We learned about the new attorney Moss when got the visitor log for June and July and we see that the new atty visited the Inmate on June 2, 2010 (along with JB) for about an hour. ALyon (who was DP qualified) officially quit two days earlier on June 30th. And mitigation specialist Jeanene B. visited with the Inmate on June 26th for about 3 hours - was she saying Goodbye?

whattttttttttt?

This is whatttt I was referring to . . . .

 

[spiderlady]

I think JB is trying to get his name entered in the "Guinness Book of World Records" for Defense Attorney that changed tactics/strategies the most times in one case.
This case is enough to drive a normal person to drink!

ITA....The thing is...Jury panels are not made up of stupid people. We hope. The way I see it is that anyone who is a juror will be aware of how many times that the defense has changed it's strategy...from KC is completely innocent and we will ALL understand.... to this load of trash. They will KNOW unless the jurors live in the deepest parts of the world cut off from all media. That is just my opinion. But for the love of what 'used' to be the law this circus has just taken a complete turn for the worse. I still do not see how the jury is going to get past all of KC's lies regardless of the inane reasons the defense comes up with this time. It makes no sense that KC would protect her or Caylee's "abuser".

 

[ThinkTank]

Here is a link to an appeal filed by Tony Moss based on Ineffective Assistance of Counsel.
http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/flsupct/sc01-1501/01-1501rep.pdf

Just for light reading...... a snip

In that time, he had litigated not a single capital case through to the penalty
phase. Moreover, he had attended only one death penalty seminar.
(PCRS VII 1737-38). Yet, despite the fact that he was facing two
experienced prosecutors, he made no effort to seek the appointment
of a second-chair attorney. Similarly, he made no effort to retain
a private investigator.

Counsel’s failure to object to the cumulative and
inflammatory testimony of the victim’s mother and cousin
in the penalty phase

VERY interesting indeed.
Wonder if Moss et all won this appeal?
I understand that it is extremely difficult to win an appeal based on ineffective assistance of counsel.

 

[drip~drop]

Whoa! Mason is quitting? Baez is quitting? A plea attempt? This is all pretty exciting news!

And it's not even Friday!:woohoo:

haa I wonder what Friday will hold.

I can't wait to know if we get to hear that tape. I'm dying to know what His Honor thought of it. lol
:cow:

 

[drip~drop]

Er....so because of her(ICA's childhood abuse, she lets PapaJoe play with Caylee until she is almost turning three, then she kills her to protect the family?
:banghead::banghead::banghead:

Could you rephrase that for me because I didn't "get" it but this old brain of mine....

It is all "Junk Hooey".

"Ugly Hooey"?? perhaps?

:waitasec:

 

[sleutherontheside]

VERY interesting indeed.
Wonder if Moss et all won this appeal?
I understand that it is extremely difficult to win an appeal based on ineffective assistance of counsel.

Additionally...
Relevance of Trauma -Steve Gold if link won't work....cut and paste and take out space before the www.

The Relevance of Trauma to General Clinical Practice

Discusses PTSD
Psychosis
Disassociative Disorder
Child Abuse
Sexual Abuse

and more

 

[nums24]

http://www..com/2010/07/mental-illness-doctor-visits-casey-anthony-in-jail/
July 26, 2010

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A doctor who specializes in therapy for sexually abused children visited Casey in jail on Friday (for about THREE HOURS). Dr. Steven N. Gold ....

New DP qualified attorney, Reginald Moss visited Inmate Anthony on July 2, 2010.

I found this info about Dr. Steven N. Gold, it's his Curriculum Vitae:

http://sidranspeakers.com/pdf/Gold.pdf

 

[ThinkTank]

As pointed out by Maura on the hinky ... we have to wait for the visiting attorney Moss to file an official "Notice of Appearance", or he is not technically on the case.

Mason visited the Inmate in jail on one day, and the very next day filed his official Notice of Appearance and was technically on the defense team.

We will have to wait and see if Dr. Gold is added to the Defense witness list also.

And we will have to wait to see if Mason files an official Notice of Withdrawal....

 

[Mrs G Norris]

As pointed out by Maura on the hinky ... we have to wait for the visiting attorney Moss to file an official "Notice of Appearance", or he is not technically on the case.

Mason visited the Inmate in jail on one day, and the very next day filed his official Notice of Appearance and was technically on the defense team.

We will have to wait and see if Dr. Gold is added to the Defense witness list also.

And we will have to wait to see if Mason files an official Notice of Withdrawal....

Please let me never have to listen to Mason speak ever again! Perhaps I can practice a little dissociation myself if he does stay on and pretend someone else is speaking when he is....the trauma from last time, it was just too much for me to cope with.

 

[RR0004]

I'm thinking they are going to say that something happened to Caylee (accident, kidnapping, whatever) and KC "dissacociated" and that's why she could party and act fine. That this is a defense mechanism that evolved as a result of being traumatized by molestation as a child.

How long are these dissociative episodes supposed to last? As far as I can tell she still hasn't shown any real emotion.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

How long are these dissociative episodes supposed to last? As far as I can tell she still hasn't shown any real emotion.

This is the best description I've found http://www.outofthefog.net/CommonBehaviors/Dissociation.html the problem with Casey trying to use this is that she knew she was lying because she took steps to cover those lies up (think creating an online identity for Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales, and calling Jeffery Michael Hopkins in the hours after speaking to LE for the first time)...