That's a REALLY strange thing to say. Why would he ask his friend for his word that he'd let him in, after his friend invited him over?
Also note that the timeline for when MR drove to Bayfield has been moved up... there is a 4:12 SMS where the friend says his dad is looking for him. I believe that is earlier than the times given to us before on when MR started actively looking for DR.
Dylan could of still texted as it should just queue them up until it gets reception .
Mum says he is a " avid texted" and I do not buy the fact a 13 year old boy turned off his phone at 8pm and never switched it back on . Most people never turn off there phones now and just charge it while it's still on . Why would he of been so irresponsible when that was also the way Elaine and him also communicated ?
MOO
I found this statement odd in the recent article...
"After Dylan arrived in Durango on Nov. 18, father and son grabbed dinner and went by Walmart to pick up groceries for the week, Mark said. Dylan was visiting on a court-ordered visit.
Mark hadnt heard much from his son lately, but that night the two hardly had a chance to talk about how Dylan liked his new home, he said."
Why would they not have had a chance to talk about how Dylan liked his new home? The ride back to MR's home was a good distance, long enough to talk IMO. The statement just seems odd to me.
http://durangoherald.com/article/20121215/NEWS01/121219687/0/News/A-boy%E2%80%99s-life
Child support is not contingent upon visitation...just as visitation is not contingent upon paying child support.
Fathers have every right to see their children regardless if they pay support or not. It is their responsibility to ensure their rights are not violated.
BBMSorry if I have missed this previously - but did we know that the friend Dylan had arranged to meet was in Pagosa? After tussling with google maps yet again I finally got my bearings and saw that Pagosa is kind of off in the opposite direction to both Bayfield and Durango. I actually imagined that MR might have told Dylan that if he wanted a lift in the morning they would have to be on the road by 6:30am so that MR wouldn't be late for his appointments. Or maybe the fact that his friend was at his grandmother's in Pagosa wasn't clear until after Dylan had made arrangements - and that didn't suit his dad after all?
:moo: and just tossing ideas around.
BBMDylan wanted to see Ryan on Sunday night, but his dad wouldnt let him and Ryan was heading back from Pagosa Springs that night.
So instead, Dylan promised to come to Ryans grandmothers house in Bayfield at 6:30 a.m. Monday.
moo is that there's no MR conspiracy here..moo but this individual is of little to zero meaning of the vast majority of the population and people aren't just making up these ol' falsehoods on this individual..
moo is that his own flesh and blood grown sons words and actions have IMO spoken the loudest as to the individual MR is.. there's just no "Everybody's-lying-on-Mark" Conspiracy bandwagon going on here..its reminiscent of TI in the Morgan Ingram case where everyone who speaks out about the truth have all sold their souls to the "Lets-Crucify-the-victim-of-this-case" Conspiracy bandwagon..moo both are similar in that there must be a nefrious motivated bandwagon of some type that's out for the blood of the innocent...
my point is there's no one out for blood and in both cases IMO the desire is the same...the truth to shine through and in Dylan's case specifically let that truth lead to finding him and serving firmly and swiftly justice on the *advertiser censored* of those responsible ...
I know that. That was not my point. I only asked if it was possible that Mark was not allowed to see the other boys because of not paying c/s. I know what the law is, but some women have been known to ignore the laws and get away with it, because the man just refused to push it. We don't know all the facts.
BBM
From the article it states that Dylan's friend's grandma lives in Bayfield. BBM
So perhaps his friend was on his way from Pagosa to Bayfield to meet up with Dylan? Google maps says it's 41 miles away. The text on Nov 18 was at 6:43pm stating that the friend was coming from Pagosa so he would have been in Bayfield close to 7:30pm IMO.
http://durangoherald.com/article/20121215/NEWS01/121219687/0/News/A-boy%E2%80%99s-life
R: (time 6:43 p.m. Nov. 18) Im in pagosa coming
Dylan Redwine: Cant come srry ill hang tommarow
Mark vividly remembers the last vacation he took with his son, a road trip to Boston in August. They visited Fenway Park and went to the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, N.Y. It was a dream vacation for a boy who loves baseball and is a devoted Red Sox fan.
At least the new Durango Times article has given us something to discuss.
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I'm not arguing with you, but at several legal websites I belong to, it is stressed over and over that child support is not a "ticket" to see the child(ren).
You can't keep the children from the other parent due to lack of child support, and you can't withhold child support because the other parent is committing contempt of court by withholding visitation. (legally anyway)
It's been done, though. Some don't even consider what's legal or not, they do it out of spite or retaliation. Maybe they don't get away with it forever, but they still do it. And sometimes, they get away with it if the other parent doesn't take it to court and demand their rights. I've seen it too many times.
Lots of things are illegal, but that doesn't stop people from doing them.
I think AZ Grandma said that their divorce also took many years, if I recall correctly? So he may have spent the better part of ten or more years on two divorces.