Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #44

[LittleFleurDeLys]

Yes, good question. WHEN would that have happened that she wrote a suicide note? While he was downstairs for a moment? Before or after she strangled her little girls?

And whoever received that suicide note--did they call 911 to try and prevent her from killing herself?

If she wrote one, she might have never sent it to anybody. But I think that is very unlikely - I still do strongly believe that he killed them all. Even if there has been any letter (sent or unsent). Otherwise he would have never acted like he did.

 

[mtnlites]

"I've never mentioned or suggested there is a conspiracy" with a DA. He's a politician. He filed FIVE murder charges even though there are only three victims. It is what it is. He wanted publicity and he got it. JMO

There were 4 murder victims.

 

[The 13th]

So - I can't post what evidence might possibly point to SW being the killer? I've seen many posts stating that DNA on the necks of the children could possible point in that direction.

What evidence? You said over and over that you were just throwing out possibilities.

 

[MyBelle]

So SW contacted the AP and threatened to hurt her own children if the AP didn't stop seeing her husband? Or did SW contact someone in CW family and maybe threaten that to them? Or was there no threat or even talking about her children at all, but instead maybe just an angry wife who was P.O'd her lying cheating husband was having an affair? Or maybe nothing at all and just wishful thinking that there's something like this out there for CW's sake?

I think it is very possible SW communicated her anger to the AP. Perhaps that is why CW decided to separate. If there's a trial, I think we'll hear from the AP. JMO

 

[Johnny1181]

Night. My waders aren't high enough to get through the swamp of possibilities Shanann has been thrown into tonight.
Shine like Shannan. You'll feel better about yourself.
jmo

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I would love to hear evidence. So far, you said that you would not be surprised if there was a suicide note by SW. Why would you not be surprised? Is there evidence for this?

There's likely a digital footprint. If there is, I don't know what the digital footprint will reveal, if it will reveal anything, or if a suicide note, goodbye letter or explanation exists. I was only speculating and at this point I'm wishing I would have sat on my hands. Which I will likely do now until more comes out.
jmo

 

[Johnny1181]

There's likely a digital footprint. If there is, I don't know what the digital footprint will reveal, if it will reveal anything, or if a suicide note, goodbye letter or explanation exists. I was only speculating and at this point I'm wishing I would have sat on my hands. Which I will likely do now until more comes out.
jmo

Sometimes I find it the best decision to sit on my hands. jmo

 

[MyBelle]

And my point is if it does exist it would be evidence. We don't know what we don't know.
jmo

Very true.

 

[MCDRAW]

Considering SW's seemingly non-stop use of her phone, angry text messages to CW or his AP wouldn't surprise me, either. Marilyn Lemak sent harassing text messages to her husband's girlfriend and the defense became unglued when she was allowed to testify at trial. JMO

Wouldn't any normal woman who found out her husband was cheating send angry texts? Not that I have heard any evidence of SW even knowing about her husband's affair(s). Even if SW sent angry text messages to CW, why would that be a good reason for him to kill her? Not sure if that is what your saying and I am probably missing the point, actually I think I am missing your point.

 

[Best of What's Around]

I think it is very possible SW communicated her anger to the AP. Perhaps that is why CW decided to separate. If there's a trial, I think we'll hear from the AP. JMO

What evidence do we have that SW knew about the specific AP?

 

[MCDRAW]

If she wrote one, she might have never sent it to anybody. But I think that is very unlikely - I still do strongly believe that he killed them all. Even if there has been any letter (sent or unsent). Otherwise he would have never acted like he did.

Or so happy about it.

 

[ZsaZsa]

Supposing CW had been violating his daughters and SW found out. Suppose that was what the emotional discussion was really all about. I could well imagine that would generate some heated texts. If there were any.. I could imagine there would be some threats issued, to expose him to LE, his family. Just throwing that out as a possibility.

 

[katydid23]

I think it is very possible SW communicated her anger to the AP. Perhaps that is why CW decided to separate. If there's a trial, I think we'll hear from the AP. JMO

Okay, let's think this through.

Let's say that SW somehow found out who the AP was, and figured out a way to contact her.

And she then sent her some angry messages. So angry, that CW decided to separate.

If all that is true, why would he be afraid to call 911, to try and save his children?

If he had SW's angry messages to show them, and he had an untainted crime scene, for them to collect forensics from, etc---why would he think it was necessary to do all the crazy things he did that morning?

It doesn't make any sense, in my opinion.

And the detectives spoke to the AP very early into their investigation. So if there were any angry communications like that, they wouldn't have said there was no evidence that his story was credible. JMO

 

[LittleFleurDeLys]

I think it is very possible SW communicated her anger to the AP. Perhaps that is why CW decided to separate. If there's a trial, I think we'll hear from the AP. JMO

Sounds kind of absurd to be honest.
"Oh baby, you mistreated my affair - I'm done with you!"
But it will be interesting to hear more from the AP. I believe she was not the only one. They all must feel guilty as well - I would at least. But just to clarify: He alone is responsible for what he did to his family.

 

[MyBelle]

There's likely a digital footprint. If there is, I don't know what the digital footprint will reveal, if it will reveal anything, or if a suicide note, goodbye letter or explanation exists. I was only speculating and at this point I'm wishing I would have sat on my hands. Which I will likely do now until more comes out.
jmo

just do a lot of rolling and scrolling. I appreciate your thoughts.

 

[MCDRAW]

I think it is very possible SW communicated her anger to the AP. Perhaps that is why CW decided to separate. If there's a trial, I think we'll hear from the AP. JMO

Is there any evidence that he really did want to separate? Or just his word that he talked to her about it?

 

[Best of What's Around]

There's likely a digital footprint. If there is, I don't know what the digital footprint will reveal, if it will reveal anything, or if a suicide note, goodbye letter or explanation exists. I was only speculating and at this point I'm wishing I would have sat on my hands. Which I will likely do now until more comes out.
jmo

I would love to discuss evidence, and inferences/speculation we can draw from it, anytime. I just do not understand how we can say we wouldn't be surprised there was damning evidence against the victim without anything to back it up? To me, it starts to feel like victim bashing if there is zero evidence or basis laid for the speculation. Just IMO MOO

 

[NuttMegg]

I think it is very possible SW communicated her anger to the AP. Perhaps that is why CW decided to separate. If there's a trial, I think we'll hear from the AP. JMO

Where is the proof that "cw decided to separate", posted as fact.

 

[katydid23]

What evidence do we have that SW knew about the specific AP?

NONE. Only speculation because of the name on the State's witness list.

 

[MassGuy]

Where is the proof that "cw decided to separate" presented as a fact.

He said it, so perhaps he told the truth once in his flurry of lies.

I doubt it though. Seriously doubt it.