GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #62

[k-mac]

Just curious..how many of you think that NK will still be in communication with CW once everything dies down? I know that my former hair dresser got involved with a convicted murderer in my state and eventually married him. I couldn't face getting my hair done by her once I knew she was emotionally involved with the guy. He and his fellow convict had our whole area scared as they went on a "kill for thrill" spree. Just wondering if NK liked the spotlight?? MOO

im suspicious
imo she was protecting him in her interviews.
still showing signs of us against the world.
her arrogance and lack of empathy for shananns plight was telling.

moo

edited to add.....I am on the fence about that.

 

[Jennifer17]

yes!
you are correct steelhead
I remember this too now you highlight it.
NK cant remember sunday night

I really don't think that she was involved but things like this make you think what is she being evasive about?
If you are madly in love with someone, you remember every word they say. IMO.

 

[Ilovemy3boys]

Watts gave mistress cards, love letters in weeks leading up to murders


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[tmar]

I noticed this, too, but wondered if the dark shirt was just an overshirt or uniform. I saw a glimpse of the “whoops, we didi it again Nico reveal SW posted where she shows Inmate Watts (thanks, PommyMommy, that just rolls off my keyboard!) on the HLN feature where a crime reporter and psychologist analyze videos of him and he is wearing a similar, if not same shirt. (My iPad does not screenshot off of my Sling app or I would share one in this post.)

I felt the same about seeing him cuffed and starting out his perp walk. One of the very best vid clips in the discovery!

Also, notice he has his garage door opener in his hand. Is it normal for him to carry it in and out with him? Or was it his way of controlling access so he could enter first?

Another lie by CW.
After being told, he failed the polygraph, CW states "I didn't lie in the polygraph.
I PROMISE.

 

[Jennifer17]

Another lie by CW.
After being told, he failed the polygraph, CW states "I didn't lie in the polygraph.
I PROMISE.

Because his promises are worth so much!!!!!!!!!
Another childish reaction from him.

 

[Gardenista]

Watts gave mistress cards, love letters in weeks leading up to murders


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I was just coming here to post this. Love seeing him in his favorite t shirt losing his freedom.

 

[Charlot123]

I'm gonna chance getting this post deleted but it's kinda driving me crazy not being able to point this out in view of my extensive knowledge of the subject. I'm jumping off your post to point out tha t SW and NK were opposite astrological signs(Capricorn SW, Cancer NK). Your post is partially correct. In actuality, opposite signs many times share common traits and values...So while they may have seemed opposite in a lot of ways, their values and beliefs are a mirror, if projected in different ways and temperament. Incidentally, each sign views the other with a secret envy about certain traits they have and feel are lacking within themselves.

sorry to the mods for TOS violation. 30 years of being an astrologer I tend to filter certain info through that knowledge

Capricorn suits SW. An ambitious achiever.

But then, Chris the Taurus is of the same type as Shanann, the Earth sign. Aren't they supposed to match well? Murder should not be in the cards. How come?

(Cancer fits NK. Lots of insecurities, her external freedom covering the opposite, a strong, hidden desire to have a family).

~Not a specialist in astrology at all, just know that you have to look at ascendant, descendant, where the moon is, etc, etc.

 

[Charlot123]

Yes, maybe just a one night stand for them both until SW went to NC.

Makes sense. Had he stayed with NK longer, this initial infatuation would have subsided.

 

[BelleIsle]

Do we know when NK actually started working at Anadarko?

How would she know Shanann's name in September 2017. The documents also don't indicate she googled about SW frequently after 9/2017 until more closer to the time frame that she has spoken to LE about. Which is weird.. unless she was able to permanently delete some of that information.

It is obvious that she is not telling the full truth about her and CW relationship. There is a lot more to the story.

I don't know the date, but I would love to!

She could have initially Googled using a device that they searched, after that, she was more careful with her traceable inquiries.

 

[gitana1]

Not to forget he googled the lyrics to Battery by Metallica at 10.10am the morning he murdered and disposed of his beautiful family. DP2122

“Smashing through the boundaries.....Lunacy has found me........pounding out aggression turns into obsession.....cannot kill the family......”

Lunacy has indeed found you Inmate Watts....total madness. You will go down in history as one of the worst family annihilators.

What the hell was he thinking? Was he out there romanticizing the murders of his family? Feeling "cool"? Like he's living a heavy metal song?

It would be incredible to see what he was thinking. What a disturbed individual. Just sick as can be.

 

[BelleIsle]

My theory is they hooked up or had a date right before that Sept 1, 2017 Google search. Shanann had her neck surgery and was in the hospital Aug 29-31, 2017. Friends took care of the girls while SW was in hospital recovering. Plenty of opportunity for CW to tell the friends watching the girls he was going to the hospital to see Shanann and going to dinner with NK or going to her place for a quickie. It's possible he took her out on a date and then admitted he was married. Perhaps the relationship sort of fizzled after that, but they kept flirting at work until June 2018 when CW had another opportunity to see NK while SW took the girls to NC and then maybe he came up with the story that he and SW "separated". My Speculation Only.

ETA: Here's a list of posts from Aug, 2017 that NK might have seen on Sept 1, 2017: GUILTY - CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #60

I like how you think. Yep, to all of this IMO.

 

[Jennifer17]

What the hell was he thinking? Was he out there romanticizing the murders of his family? Feeling "cool"? Like he's living a heavy metal song?

It would be incredible to see what he was thinking. What a disturbed individual. Just sick as can be.

I don't think that he does think. It is like he cherry picks words and statements from other people to suit what he wants when he wants it. More than a little like his family who cherry pick evidence to suit their agenda.

 

[gitana1]

I know it is expected to find family dysfunction for perps like CW and SP, gitana 1 nailed exactly what his enmeshment would be with his mother long before the Watts so vocally showed the world their lovely personalities. His sister appears to follow right in Moma Watts footsteps. Chris has zero ability to navigate on his own, making unbelievable statements and actions revealing his guilt like a 4 year old. I’ve commented before that if someone presented this as fiction it would seem ludicrous. Now add in the quirky, deceptive, blathering mistress who says her “charms” accelerated his plan it gets even more unbelievable and strange. Juxtapose those cast of characters with Shansnn and her family and it is as if two different worlds collided.

It reminds me when Casey Anthony took police down that hall at Disney and had to stop and go nowhere. Because she didn't really work there. When questioning her her responses were so ludicrous that they asked her if she had ever been treated for a mental illness or if she had ever been hospitalized for mental health problems.

 

[Jennifer17]

It reminds me when Casey Anthony took police down that hall at Disney and had to stop and go nowhere. Because she didn't really work there. When questioning her her responses were so ludicrous that they asked her if she had ever been treated for a mental illness or if she had ever been hospitalized for mental health problems.

I am so pleased that I missed that case, and have consciously avoided it.

 

[2Hope4]

Watts gave mistress cards, love letters in weeks leading up to murders


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We don't usually get to see that much of an arrest. Hope he enjoys being given orders for the rest of his life.

 

[Jennifer17]

We don't usually get to see that much of an arrest. Hope he enjoys being given orders for the rest of his life.

But he may be allowed to hang a picture by himself on his cell wall.

 

[MsGazette]

Sorry to ask, but did the autopsy reveal his DNA on CeCe and Bella’s necks? The defense was pretty adamant about getting those swabs, but now I’m not seeing anything about it now when the autopsies are discussed in various articles.

 

[Seattle1]

Do we know when NK actually started working at Anadarko?

How would she know Shanann's name in September 2017. The documents also don't indicate she googled about SW frequently after 9/2017 until more closer to the time frame that she has spoken to LE about. Which is weird.. unless she was able to permanently delete some of that information.

It is obvious that she is not telling the full truth about her and CW relationship. There is a lot more to the story.

Initially many believed 2017 was an typo but his was disproved when the discovery documents clearly documented that LE was able to recover 2017 deleted history from NK phone using Celebrite and Axiom analysis tools. NK was actually employed by a firm that had a contract with Anadarko. It's possible she could have worked for other firms that had contracts with Anadarko as one of the largest oil company's in Weld County.

 

[MassGuy]

Sorry to ask, but did the autopsy reveal his DNA on CeCe and Bella’s necks? The defense was pretty adamant about getting those swabs, but now I’m not seeing anything about it now when the autopsies are discussed in various articles.

No DNA was mentioned in the discovery document.

The defense was certainly adamant about getting those swabs, but the cause of death for the children turned out to be smothering, and not strangulation.

He decided to lie about that for some reason.

 

[Karinna]

Yes. Also, shows like 'Making of a Murder' make it popular to think that a murder defendant is being railroaded by evil detectives and DA's.

If you're talking about the Netflix series "Making a Murderer" with due respect, unless you have followed the case extensively then how do you form an opinion? That case has more holes than swiss cheese.
And unfortunately police corruption is a well known fact.
Ryan Ferguson was also wrongly convicted for about 10 years, but is now exonerated thanks to new evidence, and there are many more cases like that as well.