Clearly it’s time for a who’s who, right? Frankly there doesn’t seem to be that many players speaking up IMONo Jeff Isles if different. You're thinking of Mr. Skinner back in thread #19.
Clearly it’s time for a who’s who, right? Frankly there doesn’t seem to be that many players speaking up IMONo Jeff Isles if different. You're thinking of Mr. Skinner back in thread #19.
I don’t care at all that BM was not at Suzanne’s chemo appointments in Colorado. The girls may have wanted to help Suzanne. Honestly, if I had to pick between my spouse and my girls, it would be my girls every time. Maybe Barry was the guy who picked up dinner on those days, or maybe he was so uncomfortable there that it made Suzanne uncomfortable. Once again, it doesn’t make him a murderer or even a bad person. It’s the other stuff that I question-why is no one speaking on Suzanne’s behalf, when did she go missing, where was Barry, why was it the neighbor who called, why did the family spokesperson fall silent, what’s with the bike.
I've had friends, no family (thankfully, and I hope your dad is in remission) who were having chemo therapy. I would go with them or drop in on occasion. In my experience, they were among a group.True. But speaking from experience with my own family, I have rarely seen anyone stay with people in the chemo sessions. I went to a few to drop my dad off. He never wanted me to stay.
Sessions can last hours. Usually the people I saw getting chemo were watching tv, reading, on their phones or sleeping.
I had no idea someone could die during chemo due to the process.
Just saw this:
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Friends Say Missing Colo. Mom Suzanne Morphew and Husband Barry Seemed Like ‘Good, Model Family’
Suzanne Morphew has been missing since Mother's Day
By Harriet Sokmensuer
July 23, 2020 11:00 AM
Before Colorado mom Suzanne Morphew disappeared during a bike ride on Mother's Day, everything in her life seemed to be going well.
"That [family structure] where the husband loves being the provider and the wife loves being the homemaker— they fit that to a T," longtime friend Jeff Isles tells PEOPLE in this week's issue.
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"They're close— a good model family," Isles says of Morphew and her husband and their two daughters, Mallory and Macy.
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More here:
Friends Say Missing Colo. Mom Suzanne Morphew and Husband Barry Seemed Like ‘Good, Model Family’
I’m not sure that’s factual. My understanding was she taught until she had children. She was not employed as a teacher up until they moved to CO, iirc. I don’t have a link but perhaps someone else remembers this?I am going to be honest here. SM was a school teacher until she moved to Colorado. Her daughters are in HS and college. It is hard to imagine that SM was happy going from having a career to moving out of state and being a homemaker. Her girls are at the age where she does not need to stay home for them. Adjusting to that loss of routine. the loss of her social circle, and the loss of independence from earning a paycheck is demoralizing.
It was my impression that she taught in Indiana and not CO? Not sure.I’m not sure that’s factual. My understanding was she taught until he had children. She was not employed as a teacher up until they moved to CO, iirc. I don’t have a link but perhaps someone else remembers this?
Having been through chemo, I can think of a few reasons one might not want their spouse present during infusions. I have my suspicions about BM but I don’t read much into his absence during chemo sessions.Apparently the chemo friend thought it was noteworthy BM was only at chemo one time with SM to mention it in the interview. Assessing the behavior of a “husband of 25+ years” is something I have experience with having been married for longer than that and going through a similar circumstances with medical. My husband insisted on being with me which I gladly accepted. That’s what you do if you are in a loving committed relationship after all those years! It’s not “expected”. It’s just the way it is for most long term married couples.
Of course, MOO from my own experience and observations of my own family members as well as friends in similar cases.
There are other reasons. I didn’t need my spouse with me because I didn’t react badly, and I wanted with all my heart to have chemo days feel like regular, normal days as much as possible. I didn’t want to make a big production out of them. I also had a couple of rounds of radiation and I did those all alone because I wanted those days not to be a big deal. It did wonders for my mental health.I can too, and all of them belong to an overall list of "not getting along so well." Or "irritates me easily."
I speculate that the most demoralizing aspect of Suzanne’s too brief life was being married to Barry.I am going to be honest here. SM was a school teacher until she moved to Colorado. Her daughters are in HS and college. It is hard to imagine that SM was happy going from having a career to moving out of state and being a homemaker. Her girls are at the age where she does not need to stay home for them. Adjusting to that loss of routine. the loss of her social circle, and the loss of independence from earning a paycheck is demoralizing.
I am going to be honest here. SM was a school teacher until she moved to Colorado. Her daughters are in HS and college. It is hard to imagine that SM was happy going from having a career to moving out of state and being a homemaker. Her girls are at the age where she does not need to stay home for them. Adjusting to that loss of routine. the loss of her social circle, and the loss of independence from earning a paycheck is demoralizing.
As it appears, her daughters would attend her sessions so I wouldn't assume she felt the same way, respectfully.Having been through chemo, I can think of a few reasons one might not want their spouse present during infusions. I have my suspicions about BM but I don’t read much into his absence during chemo sessions.
There are other reasons. I didn’t need my spouse with me because I didn’t react badly, and I wanted with all my heart to have chemo days feel like regular, normal days as much as possible. I didn’t want to make a big production out of them. I also had a couple of rounds of radiation and I did those all alone because I wanted those days not to be a big deal. It did wonders for my mental health.
It was my impression that she taught in Indiana and not CO? Not sure.
Not everyone responds the same. My ex had a very serious form of cancer. Still I was there before and after her surgery at the hospital in spite of the fact we were no longer married. However, when it came time for chemo I was not an obvious choice - I got that - but she didn't want our college age son there either, in spite of the fact he took that semester off. She wanted her mother at the first few treatments, but not her father. And her father would be last person anyone would accuse of abuse or lack of empathy. Quite the opposite as he was very empathetic, but handled stress very poorly. After a few treatments it was either a friend or she went by herself, no family, but mostly by herself. I never knew why and this was before my cancer when I started to have an awakening of what was involved in facing cancer. We all just respected her choice.I've had friends, no family (thankfully, and I hope your dad is in remission) who were having chemo therapy. I would go with them or drop in on occasion. In my experience, they were among a group.
When I could get there, I would make it as positive an experience as I could muster. I would engage everyone in the room, usually 4 or 5 people enduring what had to be a terribly frightening and painful time.
I want to add @JnRyan to the conversation.
I'm so sorry that your experience has been so dismal. I am almost always working while checking in here and didn't have the chance to respond to you (he or she).
I always bring light to a friend, and would family, in this situation. There's a good possibility that those who you were getting treatment with didn't have a husband, wife or family. Or, family that could make the trip or couldn't get time off work.
This made me so sad. It's too common when a person has to go through this kind of trauma, whether cancer or other disease, alone.
Another reminder to have compassion, reach out to people we don't even know and make an effort to donate our time where people need us.
I wish you a healthy and happy life. <3
I’m not sure that’s factual. My understanding was she taught until he had children. She was not employed as a teacher up until they moved to CO, iirc. I don’t have a link but perhaps someone else remembers this?
Yep I agree except if she was very sick and struggling then I can see her doing all of thisI am going to be honest here. SM was a school teacher until she moved to Colorado. Her daughters are in HS and college. It is hard to imagine that SM was happy going from having a career to moving out of state and being a homemaker. Her girls are at the age where she does not need to stay home for them. Adjusting to that loss of routine. the loss of her social circle, and the loss of independence from earning a paycheck is demoralizing.
No. That was TS.Is Jeff BM’s grade school friend? The one who stayed behind from hunting and listened to SM tell him all about her bike rides?
And I very much respect both your wife's and your decision.Not everyone responds the same. My ex had a very serious form of cancer. Still I was there before and after her surgery at the hospital in spite of the fact we were no longer married. However, when it came time for chemo I was not an obvious choice - I got that - but she didn't want our college age son there either, in spite of the fact he took that semester off. She wanted her mother at the first few treatments, but not her father. And her father would be last person anyone would accuse of abuse or lack of empathy. Quite the opposite as he was very empathetic, but handled stress very poorly. After a few treatments it was either a friend or she went by herself, no family, but mostly by herself. I never knew why and this was before my cancer when I started to have an awakening of what was involved in facing cancer. We all just respected her choice.
One would think if this was premeditated then a large hole could be prepared in advance. I've somewhat leaned towards this. I just can't get stuck on it being premeditated or spur of the moment.I'm afraid to say what I've been thinking the last few days.....
Landscaper, big equipment, dig big holes, lye...(too soon)
jmo
Admin approved discussion about the possible involvement of BM early in the discussion. If admin had not approved such discussion, we wouldn’t be doing it. Expressing your opinion about a possible suspect is not Hate. IMOI have been following this case from the beginning and it really touches a nerve with me as well. I think because I am in that age group with 2 children, long term marriage, etc. Anyway, while in general in these cases it is usually the spouse and it very well could be in this case, I don't believe that there has been anywhere near enough information to make an "informed" decision on who caused SM to disappear. We literally know nothing except that a woman disappeared and searches were done. I too am surprised how much hate has gone BM's way with knowing next to nothing about the case. JMO!
bbmAdmin approved discussion about the possible involvement of BM early in the discussion. If admin had not approved such discussion, we wouldn’t be doing it. Expressing your opinion about a possible suspect is not Hate. IMO