Found Deceased CO - Suzanne Morphew, 49, did not return from bike ride, Chaffee County, 10 May 2020 #30

[DizzyB]

What AM says BM told him about setting up the job on Mother’s Day starting around 5:00.

It made me smile that this has 980 comments. I am rooting for these guys. Now I’m off to read (thanks y’all for teaching me the three dots and open transcript-I’m a reader, not a watcher)

 

[MassGuy]

Actually, I'm not sure this applied to hotel pools and gyms, as according to the more restrictive earlier order closing bars, restaurants, pools and fitness centers, etc., those closings seem not to have applied to hotels:
Updated Bars Restaurants PH order.31920_ADA.pdf

[ Places of public accommodation subject to this
Order include bars, taverns, brew pubs, distillery pubs,
restaurants, gymnasiums, theaters, nonessential personal services
facilities, and casinos.]

and

[ III. The restrictions imposed by this order do not apply to any of the
following:
7. Fitness centers and nonessential personal services included in residential
facilities, such as hotels, apartment or condominium complexes or
similar housing arrangements, that are limited to use only by hotel
guests or residents of the housing who are following social distancing
requirements of at least 6 feet between individuals, and the hotel or
property managers are performing frequent environmental cleaning ]

It doesn't specifically mentions pools in hotels, but does not include hotels in the list the order applies to, so I would assume pools were also okay in hotels, if they followed the guidelines.

According to Lauren’s reporting, the hotel pool was in fact closed at the time.

“I thought the pool might have been open, but it wasn’t,” Puckett said.

The motel confirmed the pool is closed due to COVID-19 restrictions. A manager also said they do not use chlorine to clean their rooms, only Peroxide multi-surface cleaner.

Suzanne Morphew’s husband left cheap Denver hotel room reeking of chlorine, contractor claims | FOX21 News Colorado

 

[ivegotthemic]

I can’t imagine he will participate, despite it being a very bad look. The search is being organized by his biggest detractor, a man who has pointed the finger at Barry, at least in a round about way.

I can’t imagine how awkward that would be, as I think more people than not (who will be searching), believe that Barry is responsible.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he organized his own search in a different area, as he may want to keep up appearances.

I know if I was searching and came across BM, I wouldn’t be able to help myself: “Barry, this would go a hell of a lot quicker if you just tell us where Suzanne is.”

just to play devil advocate if BM did show up (which i dont think he will) it could be a masterful play to improve the public opinion of BM and help set up a potential impending criminal defense

 

[curiouser74]

Hello! I’m in Colorado too. First thing to go was toilet paper, hand sanitizer and masks, then bleach cleaners etc. I could still find regular laundry bleach almost everywhere but actual grocery stores ( hardware stores, drug stores, etc) I typically clean with it and used it to make sprays for my employees (essential) so I know that in a suburban area of Denver that I could find it.
In terms of landscaping uses, apart from pool construction, you cannot use chlorine in water features or fountains that will not be used for people. It isn’t good for the concrete, liner or pump unless used for that specific purpose.

most full service landscapers in Colorado would sub out a pool structure anyway. It’s not a common item to install, a warranty nightmare if you get it wrong etc.

Highly doubtful he would have chlorine on hand for landscaping. Cleaning products are commonly used in landscaping.

When virus first appeared, I got extra bleach & cleaning products Incase someone got sick. Likely from home or hardware store. Regular bleach smell sticks around for some time.

RTD would be a government contract. There are specific timeframes and penalties for completing work on those types of contracts. Also, could be an ongoing contract for a set period of time for landscaping services. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you so urgent is not abnormal especially for something that may be a liability ( for falls, tripping, a retaining wall failure causing structural damage).

 

[NoSI]

LE did say they conducted about ten searches in other locations. It really seems like all this news is coming out in order to put pressure on Barry. If they can't find a body they may need a confession.

Between all this news and the publicity the upcoming search is getting, Barry really must be pacing the floors, now.

Yup. And compulsively looking out that window...

 

[GordianKnot]

According to JP, he saw Barry in person on May 9th. I wonder where and exactly when this was?

Suzanne Morphew’s husband left cheap Denver hotel room reeking of chlorine, contractor claims | FOX21 News Colorado
SABBM:

Puckett said he didn’t know the day Barry arrived in Broomfield and couldn’t be sure of the day he left, but did know the reason – a family emergency.

Puckett mentioned he saw Barry in person on Saturday, May 9, and described the work he’d been hired to do, a project involving fixing a wall. But, he said, Barry didn’t leave him to tools he needed.
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Those are very good questions.

Because SM was almost certainly dead by the time JP saw BM on Saturday.
So, depending on what time JP saw BM, LE can work their timeline backward.

The way that article is worded, it almost sounds as if BM came out to JP's place to talk to him about the job.

If I had to guess, I would say this purported meeting happened on Saturday night.

I think BM had other, more pressing things to attend to on Saturday afternoon/evening.

I'm wondering what tools were needed for the (fictitious) job that weren't provided.

BM appears to have been incredibly careless/sloppy/disorganized after the fact.

Shades of both Frazee and Stauch.

JMO.

 

[MsBetsy]

What AM says BM told him about setting up the job on Mother’s Day starting around 5:00.

Ok, so AM said that Barry told him he wanted to get the job prepped on Mother's Day so he could spend the next four or five days working locally. So not that he was planning on staying in Denver for a few days, which is what I thought before.

Now we know that he apparently slept in the hotel room on Saturday night. I wonder how the employee knows that for sure if he didn't get there until Sunday night. Did he say why he thought he had spent the previous night there?

 

[ivegotthemic]

Suzanne Morphew’s husband left cheap Denver hotel room reeking of chlorine, contractor claims | FOX21 News Colorado
SABBM:

Puckett said he didn’t know the day Barry arrived in Broomfield and couldn’t be sure of the day he left, but did know the reason – a family emergency.

Puckett mentioned he saw Barry in person on Saturday, May 9, and described the work he’d been hired to do, a project involving fixing a wall. But, he said, Barry didn’t leave him to tools he needed.
______________________

Those are very good questions.

Because SM was almost certainly dead by the time JP saw BM on Saturday.
So, depending on what time JP saw BM, LE can work their timeline backward.

The way that article is worded, it almost sounds as if BM came out to JP's place to talk to him about the job.

If I had to guess, I would say this purported meeting happened on Saturday night.

I think BM had other, more pressing things to attend to on Saturday afternoon/evening.

I'm wondering what tools were needed for the (fictitious) job that weren't provided.

BM appears to have been incredibly careless/sloppy/disorganized after the fact.

Shades of both Frazee and Stauch.

JMO.

It kind of feels like maybe he intially had some sort of plan in mind, but it was only at the outline stage level of planned but he thought he could wing it and be fine.... sorry BM you didnt fool anyone.

 

[crhedBngr]

Hello! I’m in Colorado too. First thing to go was toilet paper, hand sanitizer and masks, then bleach cleaners etc. I could still find regular laundry bleach almost everywhere but actual grocery stores ( hardware stores, drug stores, etc)

<SABBMFF>

RTD would be a government contract. There are specific timeframes and penalties for completing work on those types of contracts. Also, could be an ongoing contract for a set period of time for landscaping services. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you so urgent is not abnormal especially for something that may be a liability ( for falls, tripping, a retaining wall failure causing structural damage).

Call me cynical, but aren't most government contracts like this awarded to local contractors who have worked with the RTD before?

Just curious.

 

[gamma gal]

Thanks. So v likely they had chlorine tablets at home.

I'm struggling to imagine a scenario where you'd wash potentially incriminating clothes in a hotel room. I think you'd ditch them and change.

I personally do not think SM was taken to the room. Far too risky.

So why the pre planned need for chlorine? The car I could understand, but how and when would he do that?

What else? His own self? Did he bathe in the stuff?

I think something sinister happened at their house, probably something a bit bloody, maybe involving another baby momma, maybe not...he then cleaned that scene, but expediently secured her in something and perhaps used his bobcat? to deposit her in a mine or bury her...and/or then drove towards Denver or in some direction to discard the body remotely and then finally ending up near Denver in the cheesiest of motels where he may have called ahead and had them leave the door open for him for whatever excuse he could come up with. He stopped at a gas station, bought a boatload of bleach and attempted to sanitize away the evidence of the horrible things he did. He may have put her in a container with cement so that she would sink, put her in an abandoned mine, or abandoned her in the deep woods far away for the creatures to consume. If "things" went down when the conversation ended abruptly with her friend, he likely worked into the wee hours to clean the house and package her.... speculation and only my own speculation

 

[Seattle1]

Doesn't bleach get rid of blood evidence? He may have taken the tools/knives/weapons that had blood on them to the room and used bleach to clean away the evidence.

If the room had a tub, he could have soaked the evidence in the tub with bleach and water and then used the towels to dry off the items that were bleached.

My understanding is "oxygen bleach" destroys DNA but not older chlorine bleach:

When old-school chlorine-based bleach is splashed all over blood-stained clothing, even if the clothes are washed ten times, DNA is still detected. ...

Researchers at the University of Valencia tested oxygen bleach on blood-stained clothing for two hours and found that it destroys all DNA evidence.

https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/want-to-get-away-with-murder-use-a-special-detergent

 

[gitana1]

The chlorine smell could be from using the pool.

1. I’ve never known chlorine from a pool to be so strong it permeates through a whole room for hours.
2. Were the pools even open at that time, with COVID around?

When we start to have to make excuse after excuse for someone’s behavior or explain away fact after fact, that’s usually my signal to jump off the fence.

 

[curiouser74]

In Colorado closer to Denver. I stayed in a hotel and pool/ spa/ restaurant was not open for business . I cannot say specifically this hotel but Colorado ( Denver and surrounding areas) locked down pretty tightly. I know that all pools and gyms and fitness centers were closed. I would 90%+ say that it was shut down but hotel was open.

 

[KLM6]

Some of my questions:

If BM was truly at the hotel Saturday, who was running equipment at the searched job site Saturday night?

How did Barry know there was a family emergency earlier than 5pm?

Why did he rush his employees to Broomfield but then have no more contact with them for 2 days? At least to tell them to go back home? Wouldnt he want them in Salida to help search?

Why would Barry send employees into a room where he had just done suspicious things? Were they all suppose to share a room? Did Barry think it would be cleaned before they arrived?

 

[gamma gal]

I think something sinister happened at their house, probably something a bit bloody, maybe involving another baby momma, maybe not...he then cleaned that scene, but expediently secured her in something and perhaps used his bobcat? to deposit her in a mine or bury her...and/or then drove towards Denver or in some direction to discard the body remotely and then finally ending up near Denver in the cheesiest of motels where he may have called ahead and had them leave the door open for him for whatever excuse he could come up with. He stopped at a gas station, bought a boatload of bleach and attempted to sanitize away the evidence of the horrible things he did. He may have put her in a container with cement so that she would sink, put her in an abandoned mine, or abandoned her in the deep woods far away for the creatures to consume. If "things" went down when the conversation ended abruptly with her friend, he likely worked into the wee hours to clean the house and package her.... speculation and only my own speculation

SM may have been unwilling to sell property or to use property for uses that BM wanted. She may have had control over their situation. Someone else in control didn't sit well with BM and perhaps he was desperate. SM was at a point in her life where she may have gently, but firmly put her foot down.... MOO

 

[Seattle1]

Call me cynical, but aren't most government contracts like this awarded to local contractors who have worked with the RTD before?

Just curious.

Not necessarily -- especially for the small works roster which is basically an on-call list of providers (jobs not to exceed $250k). BM had 30 years of experience and would have gotten on the list very easily. MOO

 

[EggSalad]

Random thoughts/questions:

-With the new timeline of SM going silent at 12:30pm, that leaves an interesting amount of time before the 11:30pm Salida job site noise. Considering the FBI was sitting that dirt, I wonder if SM’s body was burned at home. 6-8 hours of burning would probably be required based on what I’ve looked up online so the time frame fits.

-If a tool was the murder weapon, wouldn’t BM just clean it at his house as opposed to hauling it to a hotel in Broomfield to clean? So it makes me think that whatever was cleaned in that hotel room was used to dispose of the body away from the M’s house. (Which also dispels my burning theory).

-The hotel security footage will be so key.

-Why would BM get a hotel room that Saturday but then tell everyone he was at his house and left at 5am Sunday? Why not just get the hotel room on Sunday?

 

[Deanna426]

I was thinking about this. Indoor hotel pools and jacuzzis use an inordinate amount of chlorine. My daughter has swum in them and it will reak for a long time afterwards and take many washes of the swimsuit to get the smell out. So in the off chance that the wet towels are from the pool and not from cleaning (of course LE knows if there was anything other than just water on those towels) then it could also show that maybe Barry had company at this hotel and they enjoyed the jacuzzi. I read someone suggesting that the papers were insurance papers for the job they were planning to do so it will be interesting to see if RTD truly expected him to be working a job there or not. Very damning if not. MOO

The chlorine smell from pools isn’t actually from the chlorine itself, it’s a byproduct of the chemical reaction between chlorine and dirt, sweat, pee, poop, etc. called chloramines. So typically, that strong smell does not mean the pool is any cleaner or that too much chlorine is being used.. Chloramines are also irritating to skin and eyes. IMO

 

[Deanna426]

Double Post

 

[EggSalad]

Suzanne Morphew’s husband left cheap Denver hotel room reeking of chlorine, contractor claims | FOX21 News Colorado
SABBM:

Puckett said he didn’t know the day Barry arrived in Broomfield and couldn’t be sure of the day he left, but did know the reason – a family emergency.

Puckett mentioned he saw Barry in person on Saturday, May 9, and described the work he’d been hired to do, a project involving fixing a wall. But, he said, Barry didn’t leave him to tools he needed.
______________________

Those are very good questions.

Because SM was almost certainly dead by the time JP saw BM on Saturday.
So, depending on what time JP saw BM, LE can work their timeline backward.

The way that article is worded, it almost sounds as if BM came out to JP's place to talk to him about the job.

If I had to guess, I would say this purported meeting happened on Saturday night.

I think BM had other, more pressing things to attend to on Saturday afternoon/evening.

I'm wondering what tools were needed for the (fictitious) job that weren't provided.

BM appears to have been incredibly careless/sloppy/disorganized after the fact.

Shades of both Frazee and Stauch.

JMO.

I wonder if BM would have seen JP at the Salida job site Saturday morning?