Coronavirus COVID-19 *Global Health Pandemic* #20

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Thanks! There's much misinformation circulating in some countries. It's a bit mind-boggling that politicians are telling populations that there's nothing to worry about when health professionals are saying something different. That's China all over again.

Politicians should either echo health professionals or remaining silent.

I just look at the actual numbers:
Coronavirus Update (Live): 126,121 Cases and 4,616 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

You can’t report scary numbers if you don’t test anyone. Can you believe how stupid everything is?
 
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The Extraordinary Decisions Facing Italian Doctors

Two weeks ago, Italy had 322 confirmed cases of the coronavirus. At that point, doctors in the country’s hospitals could lavish significant attention on each stricken patient.

One week ago, Italy had 2,502 cases of the virus, which causes the disease known as COVID-19. At that point, doctors in the country’s hospitals could still perform the most lifesaving functions by artificially ventilating patients who experienced acute breathing difficulties.

Today, Italy has 10,149 cases of the coronavirus. There are now simply too many patients for each one of them to receive adequate care. Doctors and nurses are unable to tend to everybody. They lack machines to ventilate all those gasping for air.

Now the Italian College of Anesthesia, Analgesia, Resuscitation and Intensive Care (SIAARTI) has published guidelines for the criteria that doctors and nurses should follow in these extraordinary circumstances. The document begins by likening the moral choices facing Italian doctors to the forms of wartime triage that are required in the field of “catastrophe medicine.” Instead of providing intensive care to all patients who need it, its authors suggest, it is becoming necessary to follow “the most widely shared criteria regarding distributive justice and the appropriate allocation of limited health resources.”

The principle they settle upon is utilitarian. “Informed by the principle of maximizing benefits for the largest number,” they suggest that “the allocation criteria need to guarantee that those patients with the highest chance of therapeutic success will retain access to intensive care.”

The authors, who are medical doctors, then deduce a set of concrete recommendations for how to manage these impossible choices, including this: “It may become necessary to establish an age limit for access to intensive care.”

Those who are too old to have a high likelihood of recovery, or who have too low a number of “life-years” left even if they should survive, will be left to die. This sounds cruel, but the alternative, the document argues, is no better. “In case of a total saturation of resources, maintaining the criterion of ‘first come, first served’ would amount to a decision to exclude late-arriving patients from access to intensive care.”

In addition to age, doctors and nurses are also told to take a patient’s overall state of health into account: “The presence of comorbidities needs to be carefully evaluated.” This is in part because early studies of the virus seem to suggest that patients with serious preexisting health conditions are significantly more likely to die. But it is also because patients in a worse state of overall health could require a greater share of scarce resources to survive: “What might be a relatively short treatment course in healthier people could be longer and more resource-consuming in the case of older or more fragile patients.”

These guidelines apply even to patients who require intensive care for reasons other than the coronavirus, because they too make demands on the same scarce medical resources. As the document clarifies, “These criteria apply to all patients in intensive care, not just those infected with CoVid-19.”

My academic training is in political and moral philosophy. I have spent countless hours in fancy seminar rooms discussing abstract moral dilemmas like the so-called trolley problem. If a train is barreling toward five innocent people who are tied to the tracks, and I could divert it by pulling the lever, but at the cost of killing an innocent bystander, should I do it?

Part of the point of all those discussions was, supposedly, to help professionals make difficult moral choices in real-world circumstances. If you are an overworked nurse battling a novel disease under the most desperate circumstances, and you simply cannot treat everyone, however hard you try, whose life should you save?

Despite those years of theory, I must admit that I have no moral judgment to make about the extraordinary document published by those brave Italian doctors. I have not the first clue whether they are recommending the right or the wrong thing.

But if Italy is in an impossible position, the obligation facing the United States is very clear: To arrest the crisis before the impossible becomes necessary.

This means that our political leaders, the heads of business and private associations, and every one of us need to work together to accomplish two things: Radically expand the capacity of the country’s intensive-care units. And start engaging in extreme forms of social distancing.

Cancel everything. Now.
VALDOSTA, Ga. (WTXL) — The Georgia Department of Public Health has reported a positive case of COVID-19 in Lowndes County.
The infected person is being hospitalized but the source of exposure is unknown. Officials haven't released any other details about the case at this time.

Presumptive positive case of coronavirus reported in Lowndes County

Ok great. I head out of town on a 2 day road trip and I stay overnight at a hotel in the one small County in south Georgia that has a positive case last night, go figure. Hope it wasn't a worker where I stayed as I was very very lax. SMDH
 
Thank you for the suggestion K.Jill, I am not much of an odor person, I will give mine away and stick with odorless cleaners from now on. I will put Aveno on my list if I go out-Im trying to stay out of the stores now or perhaps amazon.
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Try washing your hands a few seconds after The hand sanitizers when you can to wash the scent off. B and b w products smell great but they give me a headache.
I am using aveeno body wash as my hand soap, less drying.
 
Canada has reported more than 100 cases of novel coronavirus disease

Ontario has had a total of 42 cases. British Columbia has 46, Quebec has eight and Alberta has reported 19 cases. This brings the total to 117 as of March 11.

Most of Canada’s cases are related to travel, with the individual acquiring the virus abroad.

A handful of cases have been people who were in prolonged close contact with other confirmed cases, like an infected person’s spouse.

More recently, there have been a few reports of “community-acquired” cases of COVID-19.

I really hope they close schools and large institutions like universities before there's a first case in the building or at the campus. Once there's one case, it's probably spread all over the place.
 
They made a huge number of people to stay inside their homes.
Unfortunately we all know someone that insists on being out and about when they are sick. Almost every time I’m at a grocery I hear a couple women in convo discussing how sick they are. Of course everyone in line at the WMT pharmacy are sick and most just left the UTC/doctor. Truth be known, a lot of the population show no regard for anyone other than their own.
 
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Italy is truly going for "survival of the fittest."
Old and those with pre-existing conditions aren't even getting treatment. I find that horrific. As far as I can tell, China was not doing that (at least they weren't admitting to it publicly), and they had a lot more cases.

This angers and saddens me. At 70, I am alert and healthy and feel that I have many more years ahead of me. Like you said, it's horrific that a decision could be made to treat someone younger but not provide me with the same level of care. :(:mad:
 
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COLUMBIA, S.C. —

The South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control announced Wednesday that it is investigating one new possible case of the COVID-19 novel coronavirus in Lancaster County.

This brings the total number of presumptive positive cases to eight, along with two confirmed cases.
Ok great. I head out of town on a 2 day road trip and I stay overnight at a hotel in the one small County in south Georgia that has a positive case last night, go figure. Hope it wasn't a worker where I stayed as I was very very lax. SMDH
My folks live there....took me a month to get them to prepare but they are prepared and are isolating.
 
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