Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #57

[10ofRods]

Sanjay Gupta indicated this morning, that there are a number of studies testing HCQ for preventative care. But he also stated that with DJT's comorbitities he should not take it... weight, heart, cholesterol. But obviously he will be managed like a petri dish...so can't see anything to really worry about.

I've reached out to him to see if he will reveal his sources on that. I can't find any - if anyone else has some, please share.

The only promising preventative I can find in the medical literature is plasma from recovered patients.

 

[mickey2942]

This is true. My son is an atty at one of the top 50 largest firms in the US. All associates have taken a 20% pay cut and my son’s largest client, a major auto manufacturer, has culled their business by at least 50%. That said, it will be easy for his firm to bounce back.

Bounce back, but probably not this quarter or the next. Last year our dentist took the entire office staff, and their families to Vegas for a "before Christmas" vacation.

I don't see that happening much this year, for a lot of businesses who used to be flush with cash.

 

[10ofRods]

One mother describes what it was like for her son to have the inflammatory syndrome.

 

[weepingangel]

Hair salons and barbershops reinvent themselves during the pandemic

Hair salons and barbershops, at times considered a neighborhood’s unofficial meeting house, struggle to survive like any other American business shuttered in the wake of the coronavirus pandemic. These small business owners face a new challenge as they prepare to reopen in Massachusetts: delivering their services in a way that protects themselves and their clients from an invisible threat.

 

[Cool Cats]

Over 4 million in US will contract coronavirus if states fully reopen: Wharton model

1. • Coronavirus Policy Response Simulator: Health and Economic Effects of State Reopenings — Penn Wharton Budget Model
   
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3. What data feed into the simulator?Our simulator draws on economic and epidemiological data from several sources:
4. 1. • The American Community Survey
      • O*NET
      • Occupational Employment Statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics
      • Unemployment Insurance claims from the Department of Labor
      • The New York Times’ coronavirus cases data
      • Johns Hopkins University Center for Systems Science and Engineering COVID-19 Dashboard
      • The COVID Tracking Project
      • Homebase microdata
      • Unacast Scoreboard
      • Google Trends
      • NOAA Local Climatological Data
      • Data on work arrangements from Dingell and Neiman (April 2020)
      • Data on state social distancing policies from Fullman et al. (April 2020)
      • Data on economic activity from Lewis, Mertens, and Stock (April, 2020)
   
   
   Tagged: Interactive
   
   

 

[weepingangel]

The most searched cocktail in each New England state, according to Google

Here are the top uniquely searched cocktails by state:

• Alabama -- Hurricane
• Alaska -- Whiskey Sour
• Arizona -- Paloma
• Arkansas -- Frozen Daiquiri
• California -- Paloma
• Colorado -- Hurricane
• Connecticut -- Margarita
• Delaware -- Screwdriver
• Washington, DC -- Old Fashioned
• Florida -- Cuba Libre
• Georgia -- Sazerac
• Hawaii -- Lemon Drop Martini
• Idaho -- Kamikaze
• Illinois -- Manhattan
• Indiana -- French 75
• Iowa -- Kamikaze
• Kansas -- Screwdriver
• Kentucky -- Lily
• Louisiana -- Bushwacker
• Maine -- Margarita
• Maryland -- Kamikaze
• Massachusetts -- Old Fashioned
• Michigan -- Cosmo
• Minnesota -- Oliveto
• Mississippi -- Painkiller
• Missouri -- Gin and Tonic
• Montana -- Blue Hawaiian
• Nebraska -- Old Fashioned
• Nevada -- Grasshopper
• New Hampshire -- Old Fashioned
• New Jersey -- Manhattan
• New Mexico -- Old Fashioned
• New York -- Manhattan
• North Carolina -- Bushwacker
• North Dakota -- Kamikaze
• Ohio -- Boulevardier
• Oklahoma -- Black Russian
• Oregon -- Old Fashioned
• Pennsylvania -- Whiskey Sour
• Rhode Island -- Cosmo
• South Carolina -- Tequila Sunrise
• South Dakota -- Screwdriver
• Tennessee -- Buschwacker
• Texas -- Paloma
• Utah -- Cape Cod
• Vermont -- Cosmopolitan
• Virginia -- Old Fashioned
• Washington -- Old Fashioned
• West Virginia -- Kamikaze
• Wisconsin -- Grasshopper
• Wyoming -- White Russian

 

[CSIDreamer]

Wish I had known this before I went grocery shopping today. Probably would've gotten my groceries put away in a fourth the time it took.

I'm a total reprobate, big surprise. I have yet to wipe down groceries.

 

[tresir2012]

CDC: Virus 'does not spread easily' on contaminated surfaces

Update: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) - Transmission

May 19, 2020, 11:33 AM EDT

The CDC has updated guidelines on coronavirus' spread, saying that it's "not likely" to spread through surfaces.

Really? I thought if someone sneezed into their hand then opened a door and you later opened the door then touched your face, you could get it. Is that no longer the case at all? It says "it may be possible"

"but these are not thought to be the main ways the virus spreads.

• From touching surfaces or objects. It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes. This is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads, but we are still learning more about this virus.
• From animals to people. At this time, the risk of COVID-19 spreading from animals to people is considered to be low. Learn about COVID-19 and pets and other animals.
• From people to animals. It appears that the virus that causes COVID-19 can spread from people to animals in some situations. CDC is aware of a small number of pets worldwide, including cats and dogs, reported to be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19, mostly after close contact with people with COVID-19. Learn what you should do if you have pets."

There is also a section on cleaning community spaces so I will C/P that in here too. This is the same for workspaces, schools, homes etc

"Practice good hygiene

• Stop handshaking – use other noncontact methods of greeting
• Clean hands at the door and schedule regular hand washing reminders by email
• Create habits and reminders to avoid touching their faces and cover coughs and sneezes
• Disinfect surfaces like doorknobs, tables, desks, and handrails regularly
• Increase ventilation by opening windows or adjusting air conditioning"

It sure reads like they do think it can be caught from surfaces like door knobs, tables, desks and handrails.

 

[girlhasnoname]

So, business as usual lol

Hah, yes!

 

[firebird]

Really? I thought if someone sneezed into their hand then opened a door and you later opened the door then touched your face, you could get it. Is that no longer the case at all?

Right? I'm sure I've read over and over that it can live on all kinds of surfaces for days and days.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Here is one source with projections on real estate market and impact of COVID-19.
Initial Impact of COVID-19 on the Housing Market - Realtor.com Economic Research

Thanks for posting...

 

[tabitha111]

Houston church closes doors again after five leaders test positive
[5 a.m.] Holy Ghost Catholic Church in Houston closed its doors after five leaders tested positive for the new coronavirus over the weekend, the Houston Chronicle reports. Holy Ghost resumed limited Masses three weeks ago, according to the Chronicle, and the church said in a statement that two of the five leaders who tested positive are priests who were active in those services.

The Rev. Donnell Kirchner, another church leader [from the same church], died May 13 after being diagnosed with pneumonia, according to the Chronicle. Kirchner received the pneumonia diagnosis at an urgent care clinic, the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston said, and it’s unclear whether he was tested for the new coronavirus before he returned to the home where he lived with seven other members of a religious order.

(emphasis mine)

 

[nhmemorymaker]

Welsh 'frustration' as English house market starts

So... why is Wales more strict right now... The frustrations seem quite clear, but the article didn't really explain why the difference in lockdown...

 

[Mo Thuairim]

So... why is Wales more strict right now... The frustrations seem quite clear, but the article didn't really explain why the difference in lockdown...

Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland have devolved governments that are making their own decisions about the timeline for relaxing lockdown restrictions. Westminster's phase-one guidelines for opening up currently apply only to England.

 

[Sundog]

Sad news in Ohio today, Annie Glenn, wife of the late John Glenn, astronaut and senator, passed away at 100 from coronavirus. Governor DeWine orders flags in Ohio lowered to half staff in her honor.

Annie Glenn, widow of astronaut John Glenn, dies at 100 from coronavirus

 

[tresir2012]

So... why is Wales more strict right now... The frustrations seem quite clear, but the article didn't really explain why the difference in lockdown...

Health is a devolved issue in Scotland and Wales so the devolved governments ( The Welsh and Scottish Assemblies) have control of the coronavirus policy. ( and NI too as Mo has in her answer).

 

[tresir2012]

15-year-old girl in Maryland dies from 'inflammatory syndrome’ linked to coronavirus

A 15-year-old girl in Maryland has died after contracting COVID-19, marking what officials called the first death in Baltimore County from the pediatric inflammatory syndrome linked to coronavirus.
The girl “had symptoms of an inflammatory syndrome associated with COVID-19 infection that has been documented in children in New York and other locations,” officials said in a statement Tuesday.


15-year-old girl in Maryland dies from 'inflammatory syndrome’ linked to coronavirus

I had to find an EU friendly article to load for me about this. See below.

Very sad.

‘She Was Loved’: 15-Year-Old Daryana Dyson From Baltimore May Have Died From Coronavirus, Family Says

 

[The Night Watchman]

A perspective from Canada-

What are we doing about the pandemic? It’s not exactly a trick question. But it’s tricky because pace Yogi Berra, unless you know what you’re trying to do, you will probably do something else.

At one point we knew. We were trying to contain then eradicate SARS-CoV-2 because we thought it was as deadly as it was contagious, including “flattening the curve” to protect the health system from its initial virulent onset. But it does not make sense to continue to act in this manner once we realize it is quite contagious but not as lethal as originally feared.

Decades ago in Is Reality Optional? Thomas Sowell wrote “Very few problems can or should be solved, in the sense of wiping out every vestige of them — not even crime or disease. Would anyone really spend half the Gross National Product to wipe out the last vestige of shoplifting, or every minor skin rash?”

Would we spend half of GDP to wipe out the last vestige of COVID-19?

When we thought this illness combined the contagiousness of the common cold with the consequences of the original 2002-04 SARS, such conduct made sense. Not any more. But we’re having trouble shaking off the mindset.

Tuesday’s Post had the usual “experts say” we’re reopening too fast, without a detailed plan, without the “outbreak under control.” And “to open up effectively, you need to know you can detect and squash any new cluster before they can explode.”

You would if it was the Plague, Black, Justinian or otherwise. Maybe even the Spanish flu. But it’s not. It’s nowhere close.

Thus the most important thing this number tells us is COVID-19 poses little threat to people who are neither old nor sick. So little that when it first got into the hospitals, nobody noticed.

It’s not new information by now. But it’s not getting through because of the early fixation with disaster scenarios based on bad computer models and wild overestimates of IFR. We thought half of us would get it and at least one per cent of them would die.

So what should we be trying to do about SARS-CoV-2? Not make sure nobody ever dies of it. Not flatten the curve to protect the health system. We already did, postponing many other needed procedures to brace for a tsunami that wasn’t coming.

John Robson: We can’t eradicate COVID, and we’d bankrupt ourselves trying

 

[tresir2012]

Doctors Say Rare Disease Striking Children May Be Linked To Coronavirus

They don't seem that sure about this according to this article.

"Infectious disease specialists say it's too early to say whether the illness is linked to COVID-19, but there is speculation the two are related.

Some of the kids who are exhibiting symptoms of Kawasaki disease — inflammation, fevers, rashes and damage to blood vessels — also tested positive for the coronavirus. Others tested positive for antibodies that show they were previously infected.

While their symptoms initially suggested Kawasaki disease, doctors were not completely sure, says Dr. Sunil Sood, an infectious disease specialist and chair of pediatrics at Northwell Health’s Southside Hospital in Bay Shore, New York, and practicing physician at Cohen Children's Hospital.

Last week, which was about one month since COVID-19 infections began to peak in New York and Long Island, about two dozen children came to the hospitals where Dr. Sood works with severe symptoms of Kawasaki disease, he says. Some were so sick that they had to be treated in the intensive care unit."

More at link.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Refraining to comment on posts or summarize now.. only links as he speaks in this re actions of governments and actions as to science.