Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #22

[Twistinginthewind]

That would add another individual coming into the garage that day other than potentially the housekeeper. LE has been silent on timeline of nanny other than picking up children from school and taking them to NYC and then letting them into the Welles house supposedly later in the day on the 24th.

That’s what I recall as well, except I think the latest arrest warrant said it was JD’s friend who let LE into her house. Seems somewhat contradictory that both the nanny & a friend gave LE access to JD’s house, but it could have been a series of phone calls with both involved and the friend was local and nanny in NYC, so the friend assisted. MOO

 

[NameisNobody]

With many of these folks, second homes are common. Therefore license plates from all over can be seen.... by including low tax state Florida.

sleuth66- for some reason it won't link your post above.
But regarding the registration on JD's car.
Could be required by school that NY registration
is required, or for parking in certain places in NYC. For a parking permit? just guessing.

 

[BellaVita]

Given FDs access to excavation type equipment and the likelihood of this being premeditated, I think he could have dug a very, very deep hole in advance, put her in a container and then covered it very well with brush, tree limbs....things to throw off any smell. I wouldn't rule this out at all. During Dateline, that aerial drone footage of MT looking off into the woods after the investigators walked away, makes me wonder what she was thinking about.

I have to wonder what, if any, equipment FD actually had access to. He subcontracts out most of the work. I seriously wonder if he would begin to know how to operate heavy equipment. If he rented it, most likely a trail. If someone else dug the hole for him, dangerous knowledge to have another person be aware of that. IMO.

 

[afitzy]

How do we know that GH's depiction is accurate?
In other cases here on WS his opinion has not been considered at all in fact he has been somewhat disparaged as being inaccurate so much that many posters rolled their eyes when
his name came up.
I've never followed him so no opinion. Just passing on what others on WS have thought.

I watched the latest episode on the 2nd arrest warrant and the same type of episode on the 1st arrest . IMO GH followed the timeline listed in the AR and his placement of the vehicles on google earth maps was good and I believe correct. I dont' pay any attention to his chit chat with his viewers and I dont' read the viewer comments. I simply wanted to see the visuals of the trip travelled and vehicle placement in the context of an overall timeline. Saved me having to do it myself and so was a huge timesaver. Where he show dragged due to chit chat, I simply fast forwarded!

I've been working on this timeline myself and I saw the challenges GH had as we don't know a number of things even with the 2nd AW:

1. Route taken to Welles and where was FD hiding at Welles. Were the garage doors open or closed?
2. Transport method to Welles - bike, jog, accomplice drop off
3. Did FD leave Welles during the period that the 2nd AW states he was at Welles or did another vehicle arrive at Welles while FD was in garage? We don't know.
4. Route taken from Welles to Waveny/Lapham Rd
5. Time Gap on Waveny/Lapham Rd.

So, I just focused on the visuals being presented in google earth and the vehicle placement and didn't spend much time listening to the GH speculation on getting to and from Welles etc.

I wouldn't have paid much attention to the program if for example there was much in the way of speculation or opinion from GH about what happened or how it was done. I believe he does these kinds of more speculative episodes but the one I last posted was a program where he stayed on point based on the AW info and for that reason I watched it as it saved me having to do what he did.

The other thing he did that I found super helpful was to verify along the routes travelled where the cameras were that took the pictures. It took him a good amt of time to do the work on the 2nd AW and IMO he did a good job and I know it saved me having to do the same work myself and I'm glad to save time to spend it doing other things. From his analysis I learned that the video of Welles was not from a camera on JD property but from one of the neighbors. I also learned that the CCTV of FD returning to 4Jx were from neighbors camera and not from FD property.

Hope this helps explain why I found this particular video useful. Would I spend the time on a long video of viewer chit chat and GF speculation on this case? No, I simply dont' have the time but I'm sure others will and do it all the time as he is popular on youtube.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

Maybe it is not accurate. I will have to watch again more critically. I recall at least one other poster, who is a local, was familiar with where the Suburban was located. This is before AW2. If the GH depiction is anywhere near accurate, the location is VERY public.

What GH did was look at the AW pictures and match up the markings to what he had on google earth. The matchups between google earth and AW pictures was good in NC and all along the Merritt but because of the recency of the building at 4JX the google earth footage gps markings weren't perfect but it was clear with zoom that 4Jx was there as was 80 MS.

So, I think GH got the vehicles placed correctly on Lapham (Red Truck, School Buses (2) and JD Suburban). GH also got the Red Truck placement along the Merritt route travelled when it was spotted with the cameras at the rest stops.

MOO

 

[MassGuy]

I have to wonder what, if any, equipment FD actually had access to. He subcontracts out most of the work. I seriously wonder if he would begin to know how to operate heavy equipment. If he rented it, most likely a trail. If someone else dug the hole for him, dangerous knowledge to have another person be aware of that. IMO.

Yeah. I think JD’s body hasn’t been found, because FD is the only one who knows where it is.

I agree with your thinking about heavy machinery too.

It’s all about tracking where that red pickup went after he made his way back to it. JD’s blood was inside, so it appears he transported her body away from the staging site.

Where the hell did he go next?

 

[oviedo]

Yeah. I think JD’s body hasn’t been found, because FD is the only one who knows where it is.

I agree with your thinking about heavy machinery too.

It’s all about tracking where that red pickup went after he made his way back to it. JD’s blood was inside, so it appears he transported her body away from the staging site.

Where the hell did he go next?

I'm confident that there is more video out there which we don't know about IMO. I still wonder about the garbage plant....

 

[MassGuy]

I'm confident that there is more video out there which we don't know about IMO. I still wonder about the garbage plant....

Yeah, the plant scares me too.

That search is done, and it doesn’t appear anything was recovered. If that’s the case, JD is gone forever.

 

[BellaVita]

I watched the latest episode on the 2nd arrest warrant and the same type of episode on the 1st arrest . IMO GH followed the timeline listed in the AR and his placement of the vehicles on google earth maps was good and I believe correct. I dont' pay any attention to his chit chat with his viewers and I dont' read the viewer comments. I simply wanted to see the visuals of the trip travelled and vehicle placement in the context of an overall timeline. Saved me having to do it myself and so was a huge timesaver. Where he show dragged due to chit chat, I simply fast forwarded!

I've been working on this timeline myself and I saw the challenges GH had as we don't know a number of things even with the 2nd AW:

1. Route taken to Welles and where was FD hiding at Welles. Were the garage doors open or closed?
2. Transport method to Welles - bike, jog, accomplice drop off
3. Did FD leave Welles during the period that the 2nd AW states he was at Welles or did another vehicle arrive at Welles while FD was in garage? We don't know.
4. Route taken from Welles to Waveny/Lapham Rd
5. Time Gap on Waveny/Lapham Rd.

So, I just focused on the visuals being presented in google earth and the vehicle placement and didn't spend much time listening to the GH speculation on getting to and from Welles etc.

I wouldn't have paid much attention to the program if for example there was much in the way of speculation or opinion from GH about what happened or how it was done. I believe he does these kinds of more speculative episodes but the one I last posted was a program where he stayed on point based on the AW info and for that reason I watched it as it saved me having to do what he did. The other thing he did that I found super helpful was to verify along the routes travelled where the cameras were that took the pictures. It took him a good amt of time to do the work on the 2nd AW and IMO he did a good job and I know it saved me having to do the same work myself and I'm glad to save time to spend it doing other things.

Hope this helps explain why I found this particular video useful. Would I spend the time on a long video of viewer chit chat and GF speculation on this case? No, I simply dont' have the time but I'm sure others will and do it all the time as he is popular on youtube.

MOO

If the placement of the vehicles on Lapham is correct, do you agree that appears to be a very public place to transfer a body? I really don't think anything very complicated was done for disposal of the body. I go back to where EE lawyer says more evidence in New Canaan. The transfer station there is an 8 minute drive from Waveny. Just a slight detour off Merritt Pkwy. Then take 123 right back to Merritt. Of course why not dispose of everything there and especially why not the shirt and bra she was wearing? I still think FD degraded her in some way before he killed her. I think FD asked EE about what he saw in New Canaan that day because he wanted to know if he had been spotted. All MOO.

 

[BellaVita]

Welcome to New Canaan, CT
For a sticker fee of $45.00 per houshold per year, which runs from July1st to June 30th. Residents are welcomed to bring their materials to the Transfer Station. Transfer Station Sticker Applications may be downloaded from this site or may be obtained at the Scale House a the Transfer Station. Applications may be downloaded from this site or may be obtained at the Scale House at the Transfer Station.

• You must provide a current registration for each vehicle to receive a dump sticker.
• The fee is $45.00 per household per year regardless of the number of vehicles.
• If you live in New Canaan but have a leased car or car registered outside of New Canaan, you must prove residency (drivers license and current utility bill)
• If you own property in New Canaan but do not reside here you must prove ownership (a copy of your New Canaan Property Tax, Mortgage, or utility bill) and a driver’s license.
Wonder if he had a sticker?

 

[afitzy]

If the placement of the vehicles on Lapham is correct, do you agree that appears to be a very public place to transfer a body? I really don't think anything very complicated was done for disposal of the body. I go back to where EE lawyer says more evidence in New Canaan. The transfer station there is an 8 minute drive from Waveny. Just a slight detour off Merritt Pkwy. Then take 123 right back to Merritt. Of course why not dispose of everything there and especially why not the shirt and bra she was wearing? I still think FD degraded her in some way before he killed her. I think FD asked EE about what he saw in New Canaan that day because he wanted to know if he had been spotted. All MOO.

Can't disagree with anything you just stated. I'm going to go back and see what time the Transfer Station closed on Friday (if it was usual hrs or closed early).

We also haven't discussed the Farmington Transfer station as an option recently. I remember researching this very early on in the case but I dont' recall what we found out. Farmington also has house garbarge pickup but I'm not sure 4Jx was on this program. This also should be checked out too.

Edit to add:
NC Transfer station closed at normal time on 5/24/19 but was closed on Memorial Day:
Transfer Station closed Monday May 27th
5/21/2019 (date of announcement)



MOO

 

[kimch33kim]

With many of these folks, second homes are common. Therefore license plates from all over can be seen.... by including low tax state Florida.

The plates have been searched and ran through and it has CT plates.

 

[sleuth66]

That’s what I recall as well, except I think the latest arrest warrant said it was JD’s friend who let LE into her house. Seems somewhat contradictory that both the nanny & a friend gave LE access to JD’s house, but it could have been a series of phone calls with both involved and the friend was local and nanny in NYC, so the friend assisted. MOO

The name was provided in the warrant, the "friend" who let LE in Warrant #2 is the same person as the nanny. (makes sense that the nanny is also a friend of JD after helping her escape and supporting the family past 2 years). So just one person here.

 

[afitzy]

Welcome to New Canaan, CT
For a sticker fee of $45.00 per houshold per year, which runs from July1st to June 30th. Residents are welcomed to bring their materials to the Transfer Station. Transfer Station Sticker Applications may be downloaded from this site or may be obtained at the Scale House a the Transfer Station. Applications may be downloaded from this site or may be obtained at the Scale House at the Transfer Station.

• You must provide a current registration for each vehicle to receive a dump sticker.
• The fee is $45.00 per household per year regardless of the number of vehicles.
• If you live in New Canaan but have a leased car or car registered outside of New Canaan, you must prove residency (drivers license and current utility bill)
• If you own property in New Canaan but do not reside here you must prove ownership (a copy of your New Canaan Property Tax, Mortgage, or utility bill) and a driver’s license.
Wonder if he had a sticker?

If he was building a house in NC (which he was and he owned the Sturbridge property) IMO he had a sticker as the price to dump at the Transfer station IMO would have saved him a bundle but it would involved someone going there to do the dump runs!

We know he also had a red large dumpster at Strubridge (it was in early pictures of the case). Bulky items for disposal have to be weighed in NC (vehicle goes on big scale) and maybe dumpster is better for certain kinds of items? IDK.

But the point is he had ability to go to transfer station if he registered and he also had big red dumpster at Sturbridge.

 

[afitzy]

Farmington Trash and Recycling info:
Trash and Recycling | Town of Farmington, CT

FD had access to pickup on 2 separate dates IMO: 1 for MS and 1 for 4Jx [Green and Yellow on the Maps - Tuesdays and Friday]:

Here is the map:

http://www.farmington-ct.org/home/showdocument?id=15491

MOO

 

[kimch33kim]

Someone from my group just requested me to enlarge and optimize this birds eye angle of the truck at 11:12 AM 15 N/B. I thought I would share it with WSers.

 

[sleuth66]

With many of these folks, second homes are common. Therefore license plates from all over can be seen.... by including low tax state Florida.

Exactly, bingo. I have never had any problem keeping a CT registered car in NY. And we also have a low tax state reg car too as you mention. And a leased CT car. I think JD likely leased her Suburban based on registration and tax records and the timing of when she left Farmington. But maybe the RR is either registered in a trust, or GF has transferred over the registration.
Cannot imagine the pain of not being able to bring closure for this family, small things like this with the car registration, every painful thing that needs to be done usually when there is an unexpected death, but having to do all that with this case dragging on and facing FDs continuing onslaught, it is beyond imaginable. This has to be the hardest thing GF has ever faced. The children are so lucky to have her.

 

[Mimi in London]

Someone from my group posted a waterski case. There is a soft lining and a hard telescoping shell that a body can fit inside, especially a thin one.
Hard Travel Case - Black

If majority of her blood was drained and cleaned up at her house then there wont be that much blood inside this that would leak out

Again, though, wouldn’t it potentially lead back to him? I think he’d only use something FD-related if he was desperate, ie if his plan went wrong.

 

[afitzy]

Someone from my group just requested me to enlarge and optimize this birds eye angle of the truck at 11:12 AM 15 N/B. I thought I would share it with WSers.

Your work came out better than my feeble try! Good job! Certainly looks like it might be something IMO. What do you see?

 

[Alathea]

That’s what I recall as well, except I think the latest arrest warrant said it was JD’s friend who let LE into her house. Seems somewhat contradictory that both the nanny & a friend gave LE access to JD’s house, but it could have been a series of phone calls with both involved and the friend was local and nanny in NYC, so the friend assisted. MOO

AW #2 says LE was let into the house by a friend named 'Lauren A.' (interestingly, her name on this warrant is NOT redacted, as the other one I saw was!)
https://newyork.cbslocal.com/wp-con.../2019/09/Dulos-Press-Release-with-Warrant.pdf

Edit: Sorry, Sleuth66 already replied about this and said she is the nanny.