Still Missing CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #57

[sleuth66]

I pray, often, that none of his children inherited or learned this kind of behavior

I feel a need to comment here and say that we have seen repeated reports and statements that the children are surrounded by love and receiving top notch professional care to help them cope with the lead up and aftermath of this unspeakable tragedy. Thanks to GF, CL, and Jennifer’s solid and loving community (as well as their tight knit fivesome thanks to JD) they have the resources to face these demons and respond with resilience.

As family and the children themselves may be reading here, let’s rely on the official statements from CL and our admiration and trust for the care of GF for these children (along with the privilege of resources) to trust that they are going to be just fine and cheer them through what is already a grueling process, without speculations about shadows that have been unfairly cast upon them by FD.

 

[afitzy]

This made me go hmmmm. Can we be certain that FD didn't contact MT and tell her there was a mess for her to clean up, in the style of PFrazee to KrystalK? I wonder if there'll be any evidence from the garage door itself, just how many times it was accessed that morning.

FD is a small man (in so many ways), he could have borrowed shoes, not unlike the hoodie. From MT. Maybe a stray pair of Jennifer's even. Hopefully that cctv will shed some light on his choice of footwear that day.

jmo

If I recall there was never a complete inventory of blood and dna analysis in the AA’s, just enough to obtain search warrant.

To follow on the above interesting comments can you imagine if FD underneath his black ninja outfit actually wore MT used clothing and shoes?

The discussion of the shoe print is fascinating as it stood out as being significant in the evidence presentation so far. The Chucks theory is brilliant! I just kept staring at it from the standpoint of size vs FD foot size. Do wonder sadly if it was JF but if she was traveling to city I’m not thinking she would be wearing Chucks? Idk, maybe I’m wrong. Also JF foot looked smaller than that print but it’s hard to gauge size from photo. The Chucks belonging to MT is an intriguing possibility and I hope it’s resolved by the State. Can you imagine if they found the sneakers on Albany? Potential Bingo!

 

[Laughing]

Does anyone know what the process here is to change the heading of the thread? Missing imo just doesn’t seem right…..

Reporting this post.

Jennifer Farber Dulos was declared deceased in October. Could the thread title be updated to show Declared Deceased, Not Found or similar?

Connecticut mother Jennifer Dulos declared dead after missing for 4 years

Gloria Farber, Jennifer's mother and guardian of her children, petitioned for the court to declare her daughter dead to protect the children's assets.

abc7ny.com

Gloria Farber, Jennifer Farber Dulos' mother and guardian of her children, petitioned for the court to declare Jennifer dead to protect her children's assets.

The declaration of death was officially issued by a judge back on October 24, 2023.

Thanks, all!

 

[LosAngeles]

I would actually like to know just how often those two ever cleaned any of the houses with their own two hands. I wonder if PG or sole of the other employees know?

Or wonder if LE followed up with the “client” they were prepping the house for?

 

[SkylarSid]

The Home Depot possible witness could be interesting. I wonder if they have video of MT buying those two ponchos and other items.

That would definitely reek of conspiracy.

 

[afitzy]

Link to NBC Connecticut report on the Darien/New Canaan Probate Court decision last week to legally declare JF deceased. Posting in hope that a Mod will see this and change the thread title.

Court declares Jennifer Dulos dead more than 4 years after she disappeared

More than four years after Jennifer Dulos disappeared, a court has declared her dead. Dulos, a mother of five from New Canaan, was last seen in May 2019 and has been presumed dead. Jennifer’s mother, who is the guardian of Jennifer’s children, petitioned for the court to declare the missing...

www.nbcconnecticut.com

 

[Megnut]

If I recall there was never a complete inventory of blood and dna analysis in the AA’s, just enough to obtain search warrant.

To follow on the above interesting comments can you imagine if FD underneath his black ninja outfit actually wore MT used clothing and shoes?

The discussion of the shoe print is fascinating as it stood out as being significant in the evidence presentation so far. The Chucks theory is brilliant! I just kept staring at it from the standpoint of size vs FD foot size. Do wonder sadly if it was JF but if she was traveling to city I’m not thinking she would be wearing Chucks? Idk, maybe I’m wrong. Also JF foot looked smaller than that print but it’s hard to gauge size from photo. The Chucks belonging to MT is an intriguing possibility and I hope it’s resolved by the State. Can you imagine if they found the sneakers on Albany? Potential Bingo!

I don't think he'd risk bringing anything of MT's. He wasn't trying to frame her, he was trying to put as much separation between all things him and New Canaan. MOO

IIRC Jennifer was coming home to get ready for her appointment so theoretically she could have been wearing tennies. I wonder if her shoes were ever recovered...

Jmo

 

[afitzy]

I don't think he'd risk bringing anything of MT's. He wasn't trying to frame her, he was trying to put as much separation between all things him and New Canaan.

IIRC Jennifer was coming home to get ready for her appointment so theoretically she could have been wearing tennies. I wonder if her shoes were ever recovered...

Jmo

Good thoughts…could clearly be school run shoes. From her bag being in kitchen on counter and not in vehicle I wonder if she was dressed in school run gear or ready for the city and on her way out? Given the timeline iirc she probably should have been heading into the city around the time of attack or about to leave. Will go back and double check the dr appt times as I don’t recall exact time but seem to remember around lunchtime and then early afternoon for second one so she could most likely beat the rush coming back to NC.

 

[citygirl]

Another thing to note here:
Yes, the interview/interrogation seems chaotic and perhaps “most hated woman in America” a little over the top (although isn’t that what MT keeps hawking with her gigantic campaign that the media has already convicted her?)
BUT don’t underestimate what evidence LE might have behind some of these statements.

For example they tell MT that FD set her up. Did anyone notice that the bloody footprint shown on Day 1 garage video evidence is a Converse Chuck Taylor? Zoom in and look at the little braid around the edge and the horizontal lines on top.

Ok so whenever we’ve seen FD he’s wearing leather boots (likely with lifts) or once after his arrest out on bail in running shoes at Stop and Shop.

But who do we see wearing Chuck Taylor’s? MT! When LE arrived at 4JC on 5/31 there she was in her red Converse. (Daily Mail has lots of good footage of her shoes that day). By the time she’s taken to NC and then arraigned, she’s got on NB running shoes without shoelaces (due to her arrest) although she’s got on the same shirt.

So FD must have been wearing Converse Chuck Taylors that day- it’s conceivable they wear the same size shoes, or perhaps he planned it to set her up. Or maybe just coincidence they had his’n”hers Chick Taylors although FD does not strike me as favoring flats such as those. So more likely he wore those to make it appear that MT was in the garage that day.
As the interviewers say, FD had one person only in his focus and it was himself. He set up PG with the truck. He set up KM with the gun club grave. He set up MT with the Converse footprints. (All, MOO).

Of course a more chilling (and sadly, unlikely) explanation is that Jennifer was wearing Chuck Taylor’s and the footprints are from her stumbling, given her injuries one would expect blood on her feet, although the location and other evidence sadly suggests she probably went down fast and hard and wasn’t walking around the garage after he attacked.
I imagine we will hear testimony from the two older sons about what JD was wearing that day- the kids are probably the only ones who know- and they’re on the witness list, poor souls. Beyond shoes it will be needed for the cut up bloody Vineyard Vines shirt found on Albany.

So sad we have to be making speculations like these. May justice for Jennifer prevail.

View the bloody footprint from Day 1 Trial:

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Match it here:

The Distinctive Shoeprint | Crime and Mystery

Article about the unique footprint created by Converse All Star Chuck Taylor sneakers

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OH. MY. Gosh! Gobsmacked. Keep it coming.
Wow. Just wow.
MOO.

 

[SkylarSid]

OK so they get it wrong about ABs area of practice (yes he has defended MURDERERS and he is VERY FAMILIAR with high profile New Canaan domestic violence cases including the “flashlight attempted murder” trial of Bush Admin attorney John Michael Farren a decade ago where AB represented his wife Mary Farren and hubby got a 15 year prison sentence).

But this video speaks strongly to conspiracy when MT asks AB if she can bring up the psych report and AB nods no, but she goes ahead anyway to say JFD would leave her children because she has “borderline personality disorder”.
FD and MT clearly conspired and agreed they would use the Gone Girl defense so while it may not be admissible evidence of conspiracy in a legal sense, the fact that they both parrot GG theories is also part of their agreed on conspiracy.

Of course AB as a rational crim defense probably wasn’t keen on the Gone Girl defense being successful after taking a peek at the evidence against MT.
In FDs case, he didn’t really have an alternative, the evidence boiled him in his bag (thus his eventual fate).
If MT had not been so hooked on conspiring with FD, such that she plowed on with their conspiratorial agreement to use the GG explanation for JDs disappearance, AB might have been able to save her some slack.

Note: JS appears to be insinuating the GG hypothesis still, with his cross on Day 1 of the Waveny Park overhead shot where he emphasizes the rail line along its border and the proximity of the Talmadge Hill commuter rail station- he emphasized and repeated “commuter” rail- as if JD smeared blood around her garage and on her car, ditched it in Lapham Rd and hoofed it to the train station to take off and live an underground life in NY.
Not clear why else he would emphasize the rail line and the fact that it’s a commuter Station…

No question on her understanding the English language here…

 

[Megnut]

Good thoughts…could clearly be school run shoes. From her bag being in kitchen on counter and not in vehicle I wonder if she was dressed in school run gear or ready for the city and on her way out? Given the timeline iirc she probably should have been heading into the city around the time of attack or about to leave. Will go back and double check the dr appt times as I don’t recall exact time but seem to remember around lunchtime and then early afternoon for second one so she could most likely beat the rush coming back to NC.

I seem to recall her coffee waiting for her on the counter -- I tried looking for it in the bodycam videos without success.

The nanny would know her habits, if not her children. Probably had just enough time to shower and dress, if FD hadn't been there ...

Jmo

 

[Megnut]

The Odyssey of Stupidity on Albany, maybe that's what she was doing with her grimy hands on the city sidewalk -- trying to rub conspiracy off.

Raise your hand if you've EVER leaned out a car door to rub your gum onto a sidewalk. Who would do that? Who would even think of that, as an excuse? Lame.

JMO

 

[sleuth66]

I seem to recall her coffee waiting for her on the counter -- I tried looking for it in the bodycam videos without success.

The nanny would know her habits, if not her children. Probably had just enough time to shower and dress, if FD hadn't been there ...

Jmo

It was tea and an unopened granola bar and the nanny cleaned them up when she brought the kids home for lunch so it wouldn’t be there on the body cam that night.

 

[afitzy]

The Odyssey of Stupidity on Albany, maybe that's what she was doing with her grimy hands on the city sidewalk -- trying to rub conspiracy off.

Raise your hand if you've EVER leaned out a car door to rub your gum onto a sidewalk. Who would do that? Who would even think of that, as an excuse? Lame.

JMO

Haha! Come on, the first thing I always do is drive to a totally sketch area to dispose of my gum as I would never think to dispose of it later in a trash bin or near my house? Don’t you!

Also, who is more annoying than the asshat that disposes their gum on the sidewalk that you don’t see and it gets all over your show just as you are late running to a meeting?!?!

On a serious note, when did the item being disposed of by MT change from cigarette to gum? That must have passed me by ages ago…. memory playing tricks….

 

[Diddian]

The Odyssey of Stupidity on Albany, maybe that's what she was doing with her grimy hands on the city sidewalk -- trying to rub conspiracy off.

Raise your hand if you've EVER leaned out a car door to rub your gum onto a sidewalk. Who would do that? Who would even think of that, as an excuse? Lame.

JMO

Here's the photo. FD throws something away in the bin with his right hand, but in his left, he is carrying the white FedEx type envelope, which he then stows in the storm drain. You can see the opening of the storm drain directly below MT. After they finished the Albany Ave run, FD called KM.

Now tell me that DOESN'T look like MT - fingers extended - chalking or otherwise marking the curb directly above that storm drain. I think she was marking it so KM could later find the doctored plates stowed in the storm drain.

 

[LosAngeles]

A little housekeeping...
Local weatherman says steady snowfall in Stamford beginning around midnight and throughout the day, so managing my expectations that this trial will be on schedule.

 

[afitzy]

Here's the photo. FD throws something away in the bin with his right hand, but in his left, he is carrying the white FedEx type envelope, which he then stows in the storm drain. You can see the opening of the storm drain directly below MT. After they finished the Albany Ave run, FD called KM.

Now tell me that DOESN'T look like MT - fingers extended - chalking or otherwise marking the curb directly above that storm drain. I think she was marking it so KM could later find the doctored plates stowed in the storm drain.

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Hard to tell in a still but you could be right. I always thought it looked like she was putting out a butt…either cigarette or weed. Her hand is close to the sidewalk and seems to be moving back and forth. Like you say it could be a marking motion to signal KM where to go. Will have to refresh the recall on the AA as my brain is playing tricks with this particular detail.

 

[Megnut]

Haha! Come on, the first thing I always do is drive to a totally sketch area to dispose of my gum as I would never think to dispose of it later in a trash bin or near my house? Don’t you!

Also, who is more annoying than the asshat that disposes their gum on the sidewalk that you don’t see and it gets all over your show just as you are late running to a meeting?!?!

On a serious note, when did the item being disposed of by MT change from cigarette to gum? That must have passed me by ages ago…. memory playing tricks….

I don't recall cigarette ever. But I'd also forgotten tea.

If MT has forgotten some things over these five years, I look forward to her being reminded detail by glaring detail in full view of the jury.

JMO

 

[afitzy]

A little housekeeping...
Local weatherman says steady snowfall in Stamford beginning around midnight and throughout the day, so managing my expectations that this trial will be on schedule.

Just looked at forecast and WeatherBug is saying snow with high probability starting around 11pm until 10am with ice mix rain after that until 3pm. Thing that is tricky is temps look to remain around freezing for most of the day so roads could be icy after the snow. Usually locals can deal with snow but when it gets icy the roads get challenging. I guess we will have to check the court website as Judge told Js to do! No special wake up call to Js or us it seems!

If it’s like local school closing announcements they usually do it early so as to keep folks off the roads. Stamford is close to coast and it shouldn’t be as bad there as inland areas.

 

[afitzy]

I don't recall cigarette ever. But I'd also forgotten tea.

If MT has forgotten some things over these five years, I look forward to her being reminded detail by glaring detail in full view of the jury.

JMO

Yes, that video from Hartford is stunning in its clarity. Look forward to watching it in HD too!