Dan Abrams ABC to Interview Lisa's parents 10/17/2011 & Today Show

[Melanie]

Thanks Mel . Do you think we will get details tonight after the football game, or will we have to wait for the Today Show in the morning?

I haven't, but I would think the game is over by now (1 AM on the EC). Nothing on my news yet.

Mel

 

[vlpate]

Wow! I just got in from working 3-11. I was supposed to work 11-7 also, but I got out of it cause I just knew something was gonna break today and it was killing me not to be here to find out!!
I wonder how Peter A. got access to Lisa? Why would she disclose this to a reporter and the world before talking to LE with an attorney present? Where is Lisa now? Who is advising Lisa-Wild BS?
The only thing that makes sense to me now is Jeremy's behavior and body language from the first time I saw them together on TV!!
So many questions!!!:banghead:

I know you mean Deborah....I do it at times too...not sure why that is

 

[gwenabob]

I respectfully disagree.

I'm still old school.

I believe that morals are politically correct, and the lack of morals have a huge impact on crime.

jmo

And might I add, Unhappy Families.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I agree with your post EllaMae. I make unwanted mistakes all the time. A door unlocked, a window open. It happens. I can't judge a person harshly for things as minor as that. MOO.

Leaving a door or a window unlocked is a mistake...getting plastered when you are the ONLY adult charged with the wellbeing of 2 small boys and a sick toddler is NOT a mistake, it's an irresponsible, UNFORGIVABLE, piss poor CHOICE. (imo)

Guess I'm hard hearted Hannah.

 

[gwenabob]

There is some political correctness involved, IMO, as well as more knowledge; for instance, how many adults had pretty active cocktail parties going on back in the 50's and 60's with kids sleeping upstairs? Lots and lots, and most of them drove home afterward. And nobody really thought much of it, even the pregnant women drank. It wasn't a question of morals at the time, IMO, just ignorance of certain things.

And in those days, "driving while drunk" was actually the defense rather than the crime! Boy am I glad those days are behind us.

 

[epiphany]

I agree with your post EllaMae. I make unwanted mistakes all the time. A door unlocked, a window open. It happens. I can't judge a person harshly for things as minor as that. MOO.

Me, too. I just don't make them all in one night.

 

[RANCH]

Other than the parents, who were the last people to see Lisa? Have we heard yet what time the father went to werk? If I have to go through another case where they don't release the father's work hours, blood is going to squirt from my eyes..

On a job such as Jeremys, were you may go from your home to the job site, work records may be less reliable than coworkers statements of when he was actually there. MOO.

 

[essies]

I know you mean Deborah....I do it at times too...not sure why that is

Thank you Darlin'!! :seeya: I'm trying to cram as much info in as fast as possible!! I got Levi's radio show going on one window and trying to read here and Val's too!! My multi-tasking and my computer is smokin' trying to catch up!!:floorlaugh:

 

[Peazzzer]

I totally keep thinking, but for the grace of god go I. LaLaw, your post was so heart wrenching and moving. I am so sorry for your loss. I also think that DB is responsible, and knowing that she admitted to be drunk, she is the one who messed up the screen, either by staggering into it or staging it. Seriously, taking all I know now, the whole situation does seem like a 'fairy tale' that one or two drunk/stoners would come up with. I could care less what people do behind closed doors UNLESS there are children there. Then its a whole new ball game. I also think that she is 'remembering' certain things and is testing it out w the family first. If Lisa was put in the river, fish are voracious. I want to know if DB stated if she either said she put her to bed or put her to sleep. Well, I would love to shake some sense into DB! Tell it!! Spill it! I want to see if she talks over JI in the interveiw again too. If he's not involved, she sure is adept at making it appear that he is! moo moo

 

[lanetta2]

Thank you. So no footage of what started this fire and no confession from the cleaner = I am still curious about this fire.

I looked on google and am curious if this is the casino and parking lot here:

Is where I marked in orange where the fire was approximately? Also, the area I have in yellow, do you know roughly how deep that water is, and does it remain relatively calm waters? It looks like a good place to weigh down a body, IMO. Has it been checked to your knowledge? Was there anything suspicious in that dumpster that looked out of the ordinary? Thanks again.

Yes that is the correct place. It was an old casino, well the casino part is now gone since it was a boat. But the parking garage and main building remain. The area you have marked is actually the parking garage. The fire was on the west side of the main building which is what the garage connects to. The fire burned the majority of what was in there. All that my officers could see for sure were the sterno cans. I think it was relatively empty since it was only Monday and no one is there on the weekends or after hours except the cleaners and us when we go down there for patrols.

The area that you marked in yellow is normally above water most of the time, usually covered by weeds and random greenery. I think it's pretty shallow but can be easily accessed by just walking. We did have the cops there once before looking for a gun that someone threw into the river upstream about half a mile. They believed that it might wash up there.

 

[lanetta2]

Respectfully snipped and BBM

Could mom and her brother have gone to the casino? Is that maybe what the 2:30 text "I'm ready when you are" was all about?

This building is no longer a casino, we bought it years back and use it for meetings and training. But there is another casino about 5 minutes away, which I also worked at years ago. And even another casino west and south of this spot. The casinos in Missouri close at 5am during the week and are open 24 hrs on the weekends.

 

[lanetta2]

Lanetta2 are you saying that the news has had the feature tonight and that it was just a tease. Did they say anything about DB being drunk? tia

They had a little snip of the interview, moms eyes were jumping all over the place. But nothing about her saying she was drunk. Just said to watch tomorrow for the full interview

 

[EllaMae]

Leaving a door or a window unlocked is a mistake...getting plastered when you are the ONLY adult charged with the wellbeing of 2 small boys and a sick toddler is NOT a mistake, it's an irresponsible, UNFORGIVABLE, piss poor CHOICE. (imo)

Guess I'm hard hearted Hannah.

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I believe we were referring to the unlocked doors and windows as the mistakes....not getting drunk.

DB is young, and she made a terrible decision to drink too much, if that is indeed the case. But at 25, people are still prone to making immature choices. I am not condoning getting drunk when a person has 3 young children to care for by any means, but I want to know the real story behind her behavior.
I'm just waiting to hear what DB has to say .

 

[RANCH]

Leaving a door or a window unlocked is a mistake...getting plastered when you are the ONLY adult charged with the wellbeing of 2 small boys and a sick toddler is NOT a mistake, it's an irresponsible, UNFORGIVABLE, piss poor CHOICE. (imo)

Guess I'm hard hearted Hannah.

I sorry if my post made you feel that I condone adults getting drunk while they are watching over children. That was not my intent. And if Debbie does go on TV and proclaim she was drunk on the night in question, then she will have to suffer the consequence for that admission. I feel it will be severe. MOO.

 

[gwenabob]

Any amount? Not a glass of wine with dinner ? I have never heard of such a thing. JMO

I do not drink. Not ever. I am a mother first and feel I should have all my faculties 100% of the time.

 

[essies]

Don't know if this picture has been posted yet or not.

PeterAlexander 6 hours 40 mins ago Twitter Just intervu'ed #BabyLisa parents. Mom: I was drunk nite of disappearance. @todayshow
yfrog.com/gz18enqj

 

[cleo612]

I am thinking the media would have sought out any known drinking problem by the neighbors and ran with it if anybody witnessed it.

Didn't the neighbor who was visiting with Debbie that evening do an interview somewhere? (I am going strictly off a very faulty memory here, so I may be incorrect about this.)

If so, then wouldn't this neighbor have mentioned that Debbie was three sheets to the wind when she/he left Debbie's home?

 

[Melanie]

I'm hard-pressed to come up with a logical scenario in which a child's accidental death would be made to look like a kidnapping. Accidents happen every day, especially accidents involving children.

You make a good point about criminal conduct. When I hear the word "accident", I tend to think of something that occurred that was no one's fault.

On the other hand, sometimes people do things they wish they hadn't.

Just because something is unintentional does not mean it's not criminal (which I'm sure you're aware).

What if it wasn't an accident. What if baby Lisa was beat to death or something. It happens in the most horrific situations. I'm not giving mom a pass, not yet. I haven't a reason to, considering the events of the evening.

Child abuse happens a lot, more than we care to think about. I haven't ruled it out. I know there is absolutely NO evidence to suggest this, but that doesn't mean mommy didn't go bonkers that night and tried to cover something up.

I'm just thinking out loud here -- nothing more, nothing less.

Mel

 

[cluciano63]

On Aliayah's thread, the idea of an accident being covered up has come up several times, as it has here, as it did in Haleigh's thread, and maybe even Hailey Dunn's. So obviously some people think it is a possibility that an adult might try to create a false scenario if a child dies due to negligence on the part of the adult. In Casey's case, if it happened that way, she was able to pull off the 30 days because her parents were such enablers, otherwise she would have been forced to concoct a story a lot sooner as maybe some of these others have done. Not to mention the unknown fate of all of the other children who have never been found.

I don't have any idea, or even a feeling, about what happened to Lisa but I don't believe it is beyond the realm of possibility that an accidental and/or negligent death could drive certain adults to concoct a wild cover-up story.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

I'm willing to have an open mind.

What plausible scenario involving an accidental death could have led to DB (or anyone else) covering it up & secretly disposing of her child's body, & claiming a kidnapping?

Her being drunk at the time of the accident and therefore culpable to a degree, thus putting herself in danger of losing custody of her surviving child and losing the love and respect of Lisa's father, friends and family might do it.