GUILTY DC - David Messerschmitt, 30, murdered in Washington hotel room, 9 Feb 2015 #1

[DexterMorgan]

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/280979...-person-of-interest-in-dc-lawyer-hotel-murder



I can go with M2F transgender though.

My twin brother. I love your avatar. Btw: She looks like she is part samoan. I would check arrest records for females recently released from the hoosegow in the Baltimore to Virginia area.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I most definitely think the Perp is Islander, but still vote male. The walk....
Don't get thrown off by the well shaped eyebrows, that is in vogue for bodybuilder types, and of course transgender.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I most definitely think the Perp is Islander, but still vote male. The walk....
Don't get thrown off by the well shaped eyebrows, that is in vogue for bodybuilder types, and of course transgender.

Yes the eyebrows and them cheeks tells me its a female that is usually the dominant one in a same sex relationship. But she decided to provide for her lover by setting this guy up. Jmo.

 

[FindHG]

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/280979...-person-of-interest-in-dc-lawyer-hotel-murder



I can go with M2F transgender though.

Thanks for your link, at the end of the broadcast, Paul Wagner, FOX 5 reports "sources familiar the investigation" told him that the POI "was seen leaving the hotel the exact same" way they entered, dress in the big outfit.

Search warrant details evidence seized at scene of DC hotel murder
Paul Wagner reports on Feb 19, '15 5:07 pm
Discusses the crime scene

and here Marina Marraco or FOX 5 reports that the weapon used in the murder was not found in the hotel room.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Thanks for your link, at the end of the broadcast, Paul Wagner, FOX 5 reports "sources familiar the investigation" told him that the POI "was seen leaving the hotel the exact same" way they entered, dress in the big outfit.

Well it certainly seems like there is a lot to work with on this case! Video, eye witness to the maneuvers, etc.
A bit baffled why we don't have more advancement on this case; seem like there is plenty to work with. Which leads me to another baffling question: why on earth was this Perp so bold? They knew they were on tape, but didn't seem to care that much. Very odd. Very.

 

[Kip]

Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm having trouble understanding how this "meet up" was communicated.

If arrangements were made to meet someone at the hotel, whether a lover, a sex worker, a masseuse/masseur, etc., DM would have to communicate the room # to them in some way. He wouldn't know the room # until after he checked in. So unless that person was waiting for him at the hotel, he would have to call or text them.

Someone earlier suggested that a hotel worker might have a side business of procuring sex workers for customers - that could also explain how the room # was communicated.

If this were some kind of set up to kill DM, how was he convinced to check into a hotel room?

 

[FindHG]

Well it certainly seems like there is a lot to work with on this case! Video, eye witness to the maneuvers, etc.
A bit baffled why we don't have more advancement on this case; seem like there is plenty to work with. Which leads me to another baffling question: why on earth was this Perp so bold? They knew they were on tape, but didn't seem to care that much. Very odd. Very.

Yes, odd, troubling in a way. Went back again to watch the video almost pause by pause, so I am probably just seeing things that may not be there. The boldness the POI walks in with seems to wear down, it seems to me, through the video. The pumped posture, turns into a tentative leaning against the wall and a tentative look around the corner of the hall. The careful avoiding of the camera at first, with the hand in front of the face, puffing the cheeks out, in a gesture that could be blowing warm air on his fingers, the same hand the POI is touching to their lips and all over the elevator button and the banister too, is no longer covering the face. There's a little smirk or pleased expression, followed by thoughtfulness, just as the POI enters the doorway to the stairwell, that turns to the concerned stare you see as the POI sees the mirror. Do you think this POI who seems somewhat burdened and winded by the second flight of stair in the video could have had the strength to subdue and struggle with a healthy man in full capacity of his senses (blood all over the walls) even if the POI had him on a massage table? It seems to me this POI may have needed more of an upper hand against David than just surprise.

 

[Dockins]

If David had left a personal ad on any website looking for trysts, and someone close to him found out about it...they could approach him online pretending to be whatever he was looking for, or have someone else do it. I think there may even be a second cell phone that is missing...I'm grasping at straws to try to make a set up scenario possible.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

There is so much to ponder in this case! And I have to admit that I spend way too much time on this thread (along with the Las Vegas "road rage" thread) and I am simply baffled!

I had hoped that the fingerprints found in the room would be of value but of course you guys are right.....it's a freak'n hotel room so that's probably not going to pan out.

I did read a few days ago that the security cameras in most areas of this hotel are disguised behind mirrors (not sure if the mirrors are installed in the stairwell though) so maybe the poi didn't see the camera? It sure looks to me like they are aware of it though....they seem to look right into it, showing no concern really, but then cover their face.

I too wonder why they would commit this murder in such a camera ridden place....I don't get that at all.

I was wondering something that probably sounds so ridiculous, but I keep going back to it and hope someone can clue me in: When a date is arranged and the date arrives at the hotel door, what exactly is said to the guest inside the room?...... The date knocks on the door, I assume the guest looks thru the peephole and sees a person in the hallway. Is there verbal interaction (code word or name used?) to explain who They are and why they're there or is it just a given as to why and no questions asked? There's always the possibility of someone overhearing your conversation, no matter how limited it is so I assume there's a lot of discretion, just not sure how this is handled. Or does the guest just automatically assume that's the date I ordered and generally would open the door? It just seems like it would be so.....awkward!.....and dangerous!

 

[darkstar105]

Hmmm was the enema used? Unopened?

 

[HastingsChi]

In my opinion this is clearly either not a first meeting between David Messerschmitt and the individual seen in the video or the individual was contracted to carry out a hit.

The reason I am confident about that is the individual's awareness of surveillance cameras and the fact that the individual is attempting to conceal their face and dressed in a manner which provides a gender neutral appearance (when the jacket hood is up) are clear indications that the individual's intention was a confrontation with David Messerschmitt. The intentions were not romantic.

This is not a hookup gone wrong that could be seen as a crime of passion, this is not a robbery (Messerschmitt's wallet & cards were found in the room); this is someone who was targeting David Messerschmitt with the intention of killing him or possibly hired to kill him.

 

[HastingsChi]

There is so much to ponder in this case! And I have to admit that I spend way too much time on this thread (along with the Las Vegas "road rage" thread) and I am simply baffled!

I had hoped that the fingerprints found in the room would be of value but of course you guys are right.....it's a freak'n hotel room so that's probably not going to pan out.

I did read a few days ago that the security cameras in most areas of this hotel are disguised behind mirrors (not sure if the mirrors are installed in the stairwell though) so maybe the poi didn't see the camera? It sure looks to me like they are aware of it though....they seem to look right into it, showing no concern really, but then cover their face.

I too wonder why they would commit this murder in such a camera ridden place....I don't get that at all.

I was wondering something that probably sounds so ridiculous, but I keep going back to it and hope someone can clue me in: When a date is arranged and the date arrives at the hotel door, what exactly is said to the guest inside the room?...... The date knocks on the door, I assume the guest looks thru the peephole and sees a person in the hallway. Is there verbal interaction (code word or name used?) to explain who They are and why they're there or is it just a given as to why and no questions asked? There's always the possibility of someone overhearing your conversation, no matter how limited it is so I assume there's a lot of discretion, just not sure how this is handled. Or does the guest just automatically assume that's the date I ordered and generally would open the door? It just seems like it would be so.....awkward!.....and dangerous!

I can answer your question. As a gay man who has hooked up with guys in the past (To clarify I'm not referring to an escort thing or a massage thing; never done either. Just a hookup type thing) it basically goes like this:

Meet each other online, exchange additional photos, chat and get to know each other. If you feel the person seems cool, you're attracted to him and you generally mesh well online; you may decide you want to connect. Often at that point it's a good idea to exchange phone numbers and have a brief conversation (someone can seem fine online but not so much on the phone; if that's the case then don't move forward)

If he's staying at a hotel and invites you over then get the name of the hotel and room number. Ask if the elevator needs a room key (if so, have him meet you in the lobby), if not then walk into the hotel like you belong there. Always good to text that you've arrived. Go to the room, knock on the door. If you look like your picture, he'll open the door. If he doesn't look like his picture then get out of there immediately.

 

[HastingsChi]

Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm having trouble understanding how this "meet up" was communicated.

If arrangements were made to meet someone at the hotel, whether a lover, a sex worker, a masseuse/masseur, etc., DM would have to communicate the room # to them in some way. He wouldn't know the room # until after he checked in. So unless that person was waiting for him at the hotel, he would have to call or text them.

Someone earlier suggested that a hotel worker might have a side business of procuring sex workers for customers - that could also explain how the room # was communicated.

If this were some kind of set up to kill DM, how was he convinced to check into a hotel room?

If the individual was a sex worker of any type they would already have been identified by law enforcement simply because they would have found an individual on known escort sites, backpage or Craigslist whose image is similar or shares the characteristics of the person in the video. Remember, just because you delete your ad doesn't mean it can't still be accessed.

Therefore I highly doubt the individual is a sex worker.

 

[TuttiFrutti]

I don't know if anyone has posted the link to their wedding registry. Not your usual registry, but interesting all the same. Having visited both Mykonos and Santorini several times myself, I can say they made great choices.

If she had nothing to do with the murder, I feel so sorry for her. Can you imagine having to live with this? In years to come, does she think back to happy memories or this? And her grieving right now, must be a whole other type of grieving. :thinking:

http://www.travelersjoy.com/davidandkimgettingmarried

 

[TuttiFrutti]

In my opinion this is clearly either not a first meeting between David Messerschmitt and the individual seen in the video or the individual was contracted to carry out a hit.

The reason I am confident about that is the individual's awareness of surveillance cameras and the fact that the individual is attempting to conceal their face and dressed in a manner which provides a gender neutral appearance (when the jacket hood is up) are clear indications that the individual's intention was a confrontation with David Messerschmitt. The intentions were not romantic.

This is not a hookup gone wrong that could be seen as a crime of passion, this is not a robbery (Messerschmitt's wallet & cards were found in the room); this is someone who was targeting David Messerschmitt with the intention of killing him or possibly hired to kill him.

So how does that explain DM being there and opening the door for person of interest?

 

[HastingsChi]

So how does that explain DM being there and opening the door for person of interest?

The most likely scenario, maybe he couldn't fully see the individual through the peephole (as the individual could have turned around or concealed their face as he or she did in the video) and David Messerschmitt was trusting and just opened the door. Or knowing he was expecting the individual who he felt comfortable enough to invite to his room, he just opened the door to greet them without looking through the peephole (maybe he was expecting someone else) and he or she pushed their way in as the door opened.

Remember, he's a married heterosexual man who likely wants to avoid a scene that might bring attention to his room.

 

[Momoffourboys]

I don't know if anyone has posted the link to their wedding registry. Not your usual registry, but interesting all the same. Having visited both Mykonos and Santorini several times myself, I can say they made great choices.

If she had nothing to do with the murder, I feel so sorry for her. Can you imagine having to live with this? In years to come, does she think back to happy memories or this? And her grieving right now, must be a whole other type of grieving. :thinking:

http://www.travelersjoy.com/davidandkimgettingmarried

My niece did this, as well.
When a couple has been living together and own most of the kitchen, bed, bath items...this is an excellent idea.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Thanks Hastings!

 

[JLSChook]

If the individual was a sex worker of any type they would already have been identified by law enforcement simply because they would have found an individual on known escort sites, backpage or Craigslist whose image is similar or shares the characteristics of the person in the video. Remember, just because you delete your ad doesn't mean it can't still be accessed.

Therefore I highly doubt the individual is a sex worker.

David could have been catfished though. The person in the video wouldn't necessarily have been the "picture" he saw online. (IF it transpired that way at all.)

The problem I have with this POI is that, if she was invited by David, I would think he would have told her about the elevator being out of order, or on a normal day--it would need a key card. She went to the elevator first.

If DM told the person that was coming that they would need a keycard OR that the elevator was out, she wouldn't have went straight to the elevator either way. I hope that makes sense.

I also don't see DM texting his wife and saying "I'll be home in an hour" if the person he was having the 'tryst' with, wasn't even there yet.

Sometimes I think that this was a team. The one had already gone to the room and left and maybe while DM was in the shower, he/she left the key card (or door ajar) for the POI to get in. Otherwise, the timing doesn't make sense.

This case drives me nuts! :gaah:

 

[misterb]

A few thoughts so far (all my personal opinion):

(1) If you scroll through the obituary guest book, It is clear that all the entries are directed to the victim's parents and seem to be their family friends (and of course the funeral took place in his hometown and not the couple's marital domicile). It seems like the wife and her family are disconnected from the funeral and I wonder if that is a relevant clue (could also be the awkwardness of how he died but still seems significant).

(2) I kind of lean toward setup, and I think it is because of the enema. That is something stereotypically associated with anal intercourse between males, but in reality not that many actually do that, leading me to think it was planted there. Does not mean the victim was not having or seeking same-sex encounters but it does point more to a staged scene designed to look like a hookup gone bad.

(3) In the wedding registry the wife's name at the top appears as "Bich" whereas everywhere else it is Kim. Not sure if it was hacked (incorrect spelling of Bit*h?) or if it is her ethnic name but that just popped out as I looked at the link.