DC - Savvas Savopoulos, family & Veralicia Figueroa murdered; Daron Wint Arrested #5

[FerrariRose]

She didn't say anything about the money drop initially.

That doesn't mean she didn't know about it in advance.

 

[Just K]

Interesting comment in NBC4 story yesterday, referring to W-1:

"Sources close to the Savopoulos family say neither friends nor family close to the tragedy have seen that assistant since the day before the house was set on fire."

People deal with grief and shock in their own way. Even so, his failure to surface was notable enough to provoke comment by "sources" close to the family. One would hope that he might want to approach the family and tell them about his final conversations with SS, especially since he was apparently the last person to speak to SS, at 11:54pm, if that call went through.

His conduct continues to be questionable, but could still be simply lack of maturity.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/l...W-DC-Mansion-Slayings-Released-304946491.html

Well, we know he spoke to LE because its stated in the Charging documents. We know that he made private, maybe even deleted, some of his social media accounts. Very interesting that he hasn't made contact with family or friends of the S family since the day before the fire. Did no one see him at the Chantilly offices or dojo? Was he only seen in the Chantilly Home Improvement Store (on camera?) or was he seen by the neighboring businesses, in Chantilly? When did he leave Chantilly? Where did he go from there and at what time?

 

[FerrariRose]

she knew about it after the fact. then she was saying she didn't know about it before it actually happened. She only knew afterwards because she had spoken to the assistant/driver and he told her about what had transpired in the morning.

If she is the one who received the photo of the money, she knew about it. She may not have known about it on Wednesday, but she knew on Thursday morning because she saw the picture and she spoke to him.

 

[Just K]

Did SS have a driver or personal assistant before W1?

That's one thing I'd like to know.

 

[Inthedetails]

If she is the one who received the photo of the money, she knew about it. She may not have known about it on Wednesday, but she knew on Thursday morning because she saw the picture and she spoke to him.

If she found out Thursday, then she didn't know in advance. Whew, we can agree on that.

I don't think she is the person W1 texted. Why would he? They knew each other, I'm sure, but why would the two of them connect to commit this crime? A 20-something racer wanna be and a 40-something housekeeper? Both of whom had good jobs with the family? It makes no sense.

If you've been following the case, you'll notice that AG isn't the most reliable of sources of info. When she hears something, she tells the press. She is a blabbermouth.

She stopped talking to the press. Or, maybe, the press stopped talking to her.

JMO

 

[Sandstorm]

“The evidence is circumstantial and almost unbelievable,” says Ficker. “[Wint’s family] told me, interestingly, that he doesn’t like pizza and never eats pizza.”

http://wtop.com/dc/2015/05/daron-wints-family-doesnt-believe-he-is-guilty-of-d-c-murder-arson/

 

[Mrs G Norris]

If she is the one who received the photo of the money, she knew about it. She may not have known about it on Wednesday, but she knew on Thursday morning because she saw the picture and she spoke to him.

IF she's the one that received it.

It makes no sense for the driver to send her the pic in any scenario .. If they were co-conspirators in this crime (LOL crazy idea IMO) then why would he make that obvious by sending a pic of the cash to her? If they are not (um of course they're not) then why would the driver send the lady that runs the company that supplies the housekeepers that pic?

Much more likely the guy was mighty impressed in seeing that much cash, so sent the pic to a mate in line with his other bragging pics from his social media accounts.

 

[Just K]

If we assume that "sources close to the Savopoulos family" would include the maid NG, then yes. NG has talked to the media more than anyone else, and she may be relaying puzzlement on her part and that of family / friends that W-1 has disappeared from view, aside from submitting to questioning by investigators.

I am imagining that the S family included W-1 as a pseudo extension of their family. It's odd (at least to me, and to them) when such a person suddenly disappears, especially when he was so central in the final hours.

If he has nothing to hide, why not express his grief and remembrances to SS's family? Even if his tenure was short, he was significant at least to both SS and PS.

They say they haven't seen him but I wonder if he has communicated, with any of them, by phone or an electronic message. I wonder if he has been in touch with human resources or if he was a household employee v. an AIW employee.

 

[Skigirl]

Right. there was never an auction. He just needed an excuse to withdraw the cash and try and save his family.

And we don't even know if that was the excuse.

 

[FerrariRose]

Curious who are the people behind W1, W2, and W3?

ETA W1 being the driver who are the other two (2).?

W-2 is the maid.

According to the affidavit, W-3 was "identified, located and interviewed" by LE. That tells me W-3 did not call and volunteer the information to LE. That LE "identified, located" and brought W-3 in to be interviewed. The wording is key. W-3 said he witnessed the blue Porsche on New York Avenue. That's a good distance away from the crime scene. New York Avenue is closer to the Howard Johnson, where DW stayed, than the crime scene. What was a witness doing spotting the Porsche all the way out there? My guess is W-3 is connected somehow.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

W-2 is the maid.

According to the affidavit, W-3 was "identified, located and interviewed" by LE. That tells me W-3 did not call and volunteer the information to LE. That LE "identified, located" and brought W-3 in to be interviewed. The wording is key. W-3 said he witnessed the blue Porsche on New York Avenue. That's a good distance away from the crime scene. New York Avenue is closer to the Howard Johnson, where DW stayed, than the crime scene. What was a witness doing spotting the Porsche all the way out there? My guess is W-3 is connected somehow.

How did LE know that W3 witnessed the blue Porsche on NY Ave if W3 did not call and volunteer the information to LE? Did they somehow just know and track this handy witness down and extract the info they needed from them?

 

[FerrariRose]

Was he only seen in the Chantilly Home Improvement Store (on camera?) or was he seen by the neighboring businesses, in Chantilly? When did he leave Chantilly? Where did he go from there and at what time?

LE tracked his cell phone to that location on Thursday. His phone put him there from 11:30 a.m. until noon. Then his phone put him at the Chantilly business in Virginia at the time of the fire.

 

[Inthedetails]

W-2 is the maid.

According to the affidavit, W-3 was "identified, located and interviewed" by LE. That tells me W-3 did not call and volunteer the information to LE. That LE "identified, located" and brought W-3 in to be interviewed. The wording is key. W-3 said he witnessed the blue Porsche on New York Avenue. That's a good distance away from the crime scene. New York Avenue is closer to the Howard Johnson, where DW stayed, than the crime scene. What was a witness doing spotting the Porsche all the way out there? My guess is W-3 is connected somehow.

I see nothing in the Charging Docs that leads me to believe W2 is AG. I see nothing in the events to convince me that W1 and AG conspired to commit a crime of stealing $40K cash. What makes you think the two are connected in crime?? Please point it out because I sure don't see it.

And, how did the race-car driver, the housekeeper, and Wint get together to plot this?? What would bring them together in this crime? Seems like a very unusual trio.

W-3 saw the victims car being driven in an unusual way. He recognized the car, and I'm assuming he was a neighbor of the S family.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

I don't think she is the person W1 texted. Why would he?

NG didn't go into work that day, but it wasn't part of the normal schedule and W1 wouldn't know that. Depending on the time of the text, he could have texted her to let her know he dropped off the boss's package thinking that she was there at the house working.

 

[Just K]

MSM has run pix of DDW sans shirt, and yes, he looks buff.
Wonder how current or dated those pix are.
Same Q re his ht & wt - source & date. Driver license? Last arrest? Or?
If pix are, say, a year old, could he have lost or gained lbs? Muscles?

Curious if any of the SM-followers have info about ^ pix. Thx in adv.

One of the local stations, last week released the name of the Brooklyn girlfriend. At the time there were pictures of the two of them. some were from December 2014. He looked the same to me. Can I link the pictures from Facebook?

 

[FerrariRose]

How did LE know that W3 witnessed the blue Porsche on NY Ave if W3 did not call and volunteer the information to LE? Did they somehow just know and track this handy witness down and extract the info they needed from them?

Read the affidavit. It says LE "identified, located and interviewed" W-3. Identified means LE heard about a potential witness who wasn't easily available. So they tracked him down, "identified" and "located" him. The affidavit did not use that language to describe other witnesses who volunteered to be interviewed.

 

[Inthedetails]

NG didn't go into work that day, but it wasn't part of the normal schedule and W1 wouldn't know that. Depending on the time of the text, he could have texted her to let her know he dropped off the boss's package thinking that she was there at the house working.

If he texted her because they were in working together to commit a crime, he would know she wasn't at the home that morning.

If he texted her "just because," well....why? These two might encounter each other in their daily work, but I don't think they were friends outside of work.

If he texted her to let her know a package was in the garage, well, that wasn't following SS's instructions.

If he texted her at all, why isn't she identified in the Charging Docs.

I still can't see why Race-Car-Guy would be texting the housekeeper 20 years his senior. Why would he partner with her? What could she do for him??

 

[Canaille]

The driver of the Porsche was identified as having short, well-groomed hair. Has it been stated anywhere as to what race the driver appeared to be? Have I missed that somewhere?

 

[Inthedetails]

Read the affidavit. It says LE "identified, located and interviewed" W-3. Identified means LE heard about a potential witness who wasn't easily available. So they tracked him down, "identified" and "located" him. The affidavit did not use that language to describe other witnesses who volunteered to be interviewed.

If I call police voluntarily with information about a crime, they will ask my name and address. They will then locate me at the address.

 

[FerrariRose]

W-3 saw the victims car being driven in an unusual way. He recognized the car, and I'm assuming he was a neighbor of the S family.

A neighbor? All the way on the other side of town?