Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #3

[investigatefred]

I would think her being ridged would make it easier, and not harder. So if rigor has set in, her weight wouldn't be imbalanced and shifting like someone unconscious. Thankfully I do not know from experience!

Q: Why People Seem To Be Heavy To Lift When They’re Asleep?

A: People feel heavier when they are unconscious because their body has gone limp. This limpness means that the person’s weight is imbalanced and constantly shifting. So, one would have to put in more effort to hold person in such a way that their weight remain equally balanced.

Why People Seem To Be Heavy To Lift When They're Asleep?

When someone is "dead" or "unconscious", the person does appear to weigh more, but in reality, this apparent weight change has very little to do with the presence of life or consciousness, and much more to do with the placement of weight.

www.scienceabc.com

I would think rigor would also be affected by what position the deceased is in when it takes affect, no? Was the deceased laying flat, sitting, curled up, etc.

JMO

 

[photoprose1122]

Perhaps she was born elsewhere? Have you tried looking her up on other states?

I had only looked in Florida, good point.

 

[photographer4]

The date we know about was her birthday, when she was eleven, which was two years ago. 2022. So, definitely after 2020.

But his Reddit posts talk about I think his 9/10yr old step daughter…. I don’t have the post handy but if that’s true he was in her life before she turned 11.

 

[Pruddennce]

That was my problem - there is no Jennifer Lisette Soto that I could find.

Lissette (two s's) that was listed in the interview documents.

 

[Mimimom]

I had only looked in Florida, good point.

Try NY. Just a guess

 

[Mimimom]

But his Reddit posts talk about I think his 9/10yr old step daughter…. I don’t have the post handy but if that’s true he was in her life before she turned 11.

There were photos on JS social media showing SS with a young Maddie, definitely under 10. I think he was grooming her for awhile

 

[Pruddennce]

Is it possible she wasn’t at home when she died? Maybe she had been elsewhere (I won’t speculate where or why). Maybe she walked to the car of her own accord and maybe, she died in the car? Last Friday LE said they believe SS moved her body in the early morning hours and though which makes me think she didn’t likely die in his car. Ugh. What happened to Maddie?

its a mystery. Sheriff Mina simply stated, when asked by the media, if Madeline left the apt on her own. media was trying to find out if she was visible, walking, leaving. he repeated: SS returned at 8:19am and Madeline was seen in the car, and said it was their belief she was already deceased.

 

[NewMommy09]

But his Reddit posts talk about I think his 9/10yr old step daughter…. I don’t have the post handy but if that’s true he was in her life before she turned 11.

One of the news articles talks about going to the home of JS Mom to interview her. She wasn't home but spoke to them via ring camera.She said JS and SS had been together for several years. And she said she was very concerned about MS after finding out what was on his phone. Edited to add: this is what spurred my opinion that there are other phones with other evidence...somewhere.

 

[Pruddennce]

its a mystery. Sheriff Mina simply stated, when asked by the media, if Madeline left the apt on her own. media was trying to find out if she was visible, walking, leaving. he repeated: SS returned at 8:19am and Madeline was seen in the car, and said it was their belief she was already deceased. he would not provide any other information.

 

[oviedo]

This does not surprise me in the least, what many of us have been thinking all along. There is a lot out there that cannot be discussed on this board. Where there's smoke, there's fire....MOO

ITA
Jmo

 

[ar3593]

If this is true why not charge with murder? What is the hold up? I guess her involvement

They only have one bite at the apple, they are making sure they have everything shored up. There is no rush..he isn't going anywhere and the clock starts ticking once he is charged. IMO, her involvement does make it even more crucial they put all the pieces of this confusing puzzle together so they can nail them both. MOO

 

[photographer4]

No garage listed according to Zillow.

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4012 Santa Maria Dr APT 107, Kissimmee, FL 34741 | Zillow

4012 Santa Maria Dr Apt 107, Kissimmee FL, is a Condo home that contains 1470 sq ft and was built in 2005.It contains 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms.This home last sold for $87,000 in January 2012. The Zestimate for this Condo is $279,400, which has decreased by $3,240 in the last 30 days.The Rent...

www.zillow.com

Beautiful home. At the bottom it lists schools in the area - none are Maddie’s school which seems a bit far out of her district. Maybe they had better support for Maddie’s educational needs? Maybe it was closer to Grandma or other adult family for childcare when she was younger? Either way, tragic.

 

[photoprose1122]

Try NY. Just a guess

I did, still no record of a Jennifer Lissette Soto. So weird. I also tried TX.

 

[photographer4]

No garage listed according to Zillow.

View attachment 488791

4012 Santa Maria Dr APT 107, Kissimmee, FL 34741 | Zillow

4012 Santa Maria Dr Apt 107, Kissimmee FL, is a Condo home that contains 1470 sq ft and was built in 2005.It contains 4 bedrooms and 3 bathrooms.This home last sold for $87,000 in January 2012. The Zestimate for this Condo is $279,400, which has decreased by $3,240 in the last 30 days.The Rent...

www.zillow.com

There is a “car wash” listed as part of the residence though. That may have interesting footage if he went there in his car at any point before / during moving the body / after his return from body dump.

 

[Pruddennce]

I did, still no record of a Jennifer Lissette Soto. So weird. I also tried TX.

current employment on linkedin she is known as Jenn Soto, Vacation Planner at WDW March 2022 to present

 

[Gemmie]

Just my observation.

The fact SS used the exact same username for facebook, Instagram etc AND Reddit (Where generally anonymity is the whole point) makes me think he is either a bit thick, or completely arrogant.

I'll have to look for his sustinent FB page (unless someone happens to have it handy).

Here is his FB using his name:

Stephan Sterns

Stephan Sterns is on Facebook. Join Facebook to connect with Stephan Sterns and others you may know. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected.

www.facebook.com

 

[Hestia's Fire]

Would it make him more conspicuous though, to be trying to wrangle a body in rigor?

You would certainly think so! I am very curious as to how and when he moved her to his vehicle because it seems like taking such a huge risk of being seen, no matter what condition she was in.

 

[Hestia's Fire]

I'll have to look for his sustinent FB page (unless someone happens to have it handy).

Here is his FB using his name:

Stephan Sterns

Stephan Sterns is on Facebook. Join Facebook to connect with Stephan Sterns and others you may know. Facebook gives people the power to share and makes the world more open and connected.

www.facebook.com

His public review of Universal Citywalk is absolutely unhinged. I can't believe no one in his life realized what kind of anger issues he must have had bubbling under the surface.

 

[ar3593]

If this is true why not charge with murder? What is the hold up? I guess her involvement

They only have one bite at the apple, they are making sure they have everything shored up. There is no rush..he isn't going anywhere and the clock starts ticking once he is charged. IMO, her involvement does make it even more crucial they put all the pieces of this confusing puzzle together so they can nail them both

Can you help me understand how a fast put to rest means suicide has been ruled out? I’m not familiar with how release of body back to family works at all, let alone in such a high profile case. Ty.

Release of body after death varies and depends on many factors: does it appear to be a natural death? Was the deceased ill and was this expected? Was the death suspicious? The length of time the bodies are held can vary depending on the specifics of the case and the requirements of the investigation and legal proceedings. Procedures and laws regarding this matter can vary by jurisdiction.
MOO

 

[Gemmie]

Well, appears he's been with Jenn and Maddie since she was at least 9 yrs old.

He posted Maddie's pic in this post when she was 9. You'll have to scan to the last pic to see it. The URL doesn't change as I scrolled through so you'll have to scroll right for it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/jlsan2/the_finished_product_my_gfs_9yo_daughter_planned