Forensic Astrology - KYRON HORMAN disappears 6/4/10 Portland, OR #2

[Tuba]

Don't be impatient with yourself, Puglover~you made all the right connections. I don't know Miss S's birthday myself but I bet you can find it on the web. Another consolation for you...all these cases crawl along slowly. Your pace is more than fine.

 

[Brandy]

I was also thinking that this person could be a Virgo since Mercury also rules Virgo. So I would think more along the lines that this person is a Virgo since it is also a sign of Virgo who is the natural Sign of gardeners & landscapers & groundskeepers. I was thinking along the lines of either one of the signs, but when you brought up the gardners and Landscapers, I think it fits more appropriately.

Does anyone have the birth date for DD-S? Since her name was brought up by police, I would like to know what her sign is.

I was getting frustrated and quite ready to give it up and I started researching some terms. So maybe it is better that I keep slowing forging along. There might be some hope in that I learn some astrology. Although this is what I feel like: :banghead: LOL

The birthday of DD-S is September 12, 1967 according to her profile on Amazon.

 

[Puglover]

The birthday of DD-S is September 12, 1967 according to her profile on Amazon.

Thank you very much. That is the month that I thought it would be.

 

[Puglover]

Don't be impatient with yourself, Puglover~you made all the right connections. I don't know Miss S's birthday myself but I bet you can find it on the web. Another consolation for you...all these cases crawl along slowly. Your pace is more than fine.

Tuba, thank you so much for the encouragement. :woohoo:

 

[passionflower]

the birthday of DD-S is September 12, 1967 according to her profile on amazon.

virgo

 

[coastal]

Tuba said (respectfully snipped):

...Ascending and poised conjunct the rising degree is Klytaemnestra (or Clytemnestra) who plotted with her lover Aegisthus to murder her second husband Agememnon and did so. [Olympia, home of the first Olympic Games, 776 BC, is there as well.]..

Wow. Just...wow!

 

[Tuba]

We have already examined the victim's planets atop the wheel for the event of SWNBN's farewell to Kyron. This is SWNBN's planets atop the same wheel.

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[Puglover]

Tuba, I know somewhat of what the chart is saying. The SWNBNM was at the school, in the hall, at or in the vehicle, at the death. Is the chart showing anything else. Not like this person hasn't been involved in all the aspects of the disappearance.

I would love to see a chart for some whose birthdate is 9/12/1967. I don't know time of birth or where birth occurred. I am not sure that you could do this one.

 

[Tuba]

Uranus denotes how our will is brought to bear, where it exerts force. Yes, the chart points to personal responsibility for the outcome, as her Uranus is astride the House 4 cusp and that is how matters end, end of life, outcome and her very own Sun at 23° Pisces is the same distance from the Winter Solstice as is that Uranus at 7° Libra, therefore creating reflex action between the two heavenly bodies. The Sun is her essential self, her motive drive, her being. For those two fundamentals in her character to determine and activate an ENDING is not only strong stuff--it just doesn't get any stronger. Remember Uranus rules House 8 and think about the Fixed Star Vindemiatrix which is conjunct that Uranus and which means a loss by death.

 

[Puglover]

Leomoon80, Do you have anything else that you have noticed or can add? I also love reading your posts. All of the astrologers are outstanding.

 

[Leomoon80]

Leomoon80, Do you have anything else that you have noticed or can add? I also love reading your posts. All of the astrologers are outstanding.

To tell the truth, Tuba has left no stone unturned on this one, and has covered it all valiantly.

I just like reading along like you do....and hopefully learning something here.

I know we are all very anxious for justice but often as you know the wheels of justice are very slow movers.

But I do think in this long case study, we've seen that from the very beginning of the first chart the LE are hot on the tail of the perpetrators and there will be Lady Justice aferall is said and done.

 

[FifthEssence]

We have already examined the victim's planets atop the wheel for the event of SWNBN's farewell to Kyron. This is SWNBN's planets atop the same wheel.

Uranus denotes how our will is brought to bear, where it exerts force. Yes, the chart points to personal responsibility for the outcome, as her Uranus is astride the House 4 cusp and that is how matters end, end of life, outcome and her very own sun at 23° Pisces is the same distance from the winter solstice as is that Uranus at 7° Libra, therefore creating reflex action between the two heavenly bodies. The Sun is her essential self, her motive drive, her being. For those two fundamentals in her character to determine and activate an ending is not only strong stuff--it just doesn't get any stronger. Remember Uranus rules House 8 and think about the fixed star Vindemiatrix which is conjunct that Uranus and which means a loss by death.

pin the tail on the donkey

 

[Puglover]

I hope that they do soon arrest all that are involved. IMO I would never want any child to be with this person, let alone myself.

I also wanted to know if forensic astrology ever shows what mode was used during the murder. Such as knife, gun, poison, strangulation. I am really astonished at how well the planets and such tell the story. I am really in awe.

Once again all the astrologers are :angel::angel::angel::angel:

 

[Tuba]

We still have a watery backdrop, 28° Pisces, but within the general setting, the concealment of an Aries intercept. Aries refers to a place of refuge for thieves & felons (unfrequented), ground where sheep and cows feed, sandy or hilly ground, a stable for smaller animals, land recently ploughed or where bricks, lime have been burnt.

Unfortunate for interviews, Saturn constrains answers in the back and forth, parents are reticent and there is heavy conscience over failures and deficiencies in caretaking: Saturn rules House 6.

Mars rising does denote a vigorous investigation but many troubles in piecing the details of the case together. Uranus is impatient, sloppy and acts in haste without forethought, more so in the coercive rush of Uranus square Pluto.

 

[Andromeda]

Tuba, not sure if I'm interpreting the above chart correctly.

Does the above chart mean that there were so many fingers in the pie that there was no consistency in the way that "suspects" were interviewed? So piecing together the "facts" is liken to finding a needle in a haystack? i.e., perp hiding in plain sight?

JMO: Fifty interviewers. Where is the consistency in that? That means you have varying levels of expertise. If you have a junior officer interviewing "the perp" their statement analysis may not be up to par and thus their interrogation gets buried and the ones left on the case have "fifteen" (or whatever the number of binders are) of "leads" to sift through and map?

Wow. No wonder it's taking so long.

There may be a third player here. Someone who was a friend to the school (volunteer?) who helped to facilitate/execute The Plan. Someone to escort Kyron from stepmom's "goodbye" to abductor.

 

[Tuba]

You may have an accurate perception of an interview problem but it would have emerged from the situation not from my chart analysis which points to sloppiness, impatience & haste on the part of Uranus who is identified as the public enemy. We can also call Uranus the abductor. (See "Public enemy, Uranus, ruling House 7 concealed at a distance" mid paragraph under the chart, in script.) From the Mars in Virgo, which is the interrogators along with the Sun, you can derive the sifting through minutiae that you mention.

Yes, I cannot help but see an extra hand in this. In the earliest chart, for 8:45 a.m., the Moon who is SWNBN is contraparallel Saturn which represents a hand-off to another. Saturn ruled the 7th House. Here she is again with the ruler of House 7, Uranus in her recent activity.

Here is one hopeful note in the effort to gather all the factors into a coherent whole: Mars of the investigation applies to Pluto in a promising trine. Very positive. Then too, the Sun is on the north node of the planet Venus, and the Part of Fortune is with the Sun. Even though Mercury of respondents at the interviews is on a hideous Fixed Star, Caput Algol, the winged one does move on to trine Saturn and that makes for sound consolidation.

So, taking it for all in all, we are not faced with some wizard who accomplished this. It was more slap dash than we have yet realised. There may have been one fierce and violent notion that worked but not for long.

 

[grayjay]

Just what we need: sloppy criminals and meticulous investigators. And our own patience.

 

[Doodles]

'Kaine Horman calls his estranged wife "severely emotionally disturbed,'' releasing more texts between Terri Horman and Michael Cook'

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html#comments

Edit to add more links.

http://www.kptv.com/news/25509165/detail.html

PDF Files:

Court Documents
http://www.kptv.com/download/2010/1026/25509272.pdf

Text Messages between TH and MC (You might not want to see these, and I'm not going to check them out.)
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/redacted-text-messages.PDF

 

[Emma Peel]

'Kaine Horman calls his estranged wife "severely emotionally disturbed,'' releasing more texts between Terri Horman and Michael Cook'

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html#comments

Edit to add more links.

http://www.kptv.com/news/25509165/detail.html

PDF Files:

Court Documents
http://www.kptv.com/download/2010/1026/25509272.pdf

Text Messages between TH and MC (You might not want to see these, and I'm not going to check them out.)
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/redacted-text-messages.PDF

hello Kyron's full moon...and a nod to the astrologers...

 

[Paulette]

Thanks Doodles! SWMNBN had Sun, Mercury & "Veritas" (Latin for Truth) all conjunct 23 Pisces in her 2010 Solar Return.

I posted this a while back & had no illusions that she would be the one to tell the truth. It came from Kaine. Funny how that worked!