GA GA - Jenna Van Gelderen, 25, Atlanta, 18 Aug 2017 #1

[Shiressleuth]

Do we know what day the parents left for hols?

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I don't think that has been stated. Had to be before Thursday when J had her friends staying.
Also, reading early reports again on page 1 the reports all say a friend states she last had a conversation with J on Saturday ( so that would mean after midnight Friday) then received the laying down text. That friends conversation will be key evidence.

 

[Stanly]

Last update including posts by Subie (VI) brother. For the record: I have contact with the mod..and ask him/her to remove all former timelines from this thread.

Timeline Jenna van Gelderen missing

Jenna, 25years old, 4”11’, 140 lbs, long dark hair, pierced ears. Address; 2255 Lenox Road. Atlanta PD Zone 2 DeKalbcounty. ‘Lenox Woods apartments’, livingright between the areas Buckhead and Midtown.
https://www.facebook.com/HelpFindJennaVG/
About herliving space/apartment ‘She would never tell us this address, we only found outthrough the P.I and the police. Accordingto them she is on the lease. Prior we didn't know this and though she wasjust saying on a friend's couch according to what she had told us. Post bybrother 313.
Missingfrom Parents house; address; From media….Near Emory University, posted byher parents on Facebook page. 1289,Oakdale road, Atlanta. August, 26 Updates flyer address parents…Druid Hillshome, GA. DeKalb county, GA
Distancebetween her apartment and parents address: 3 miles
She hadbeen seeing a career coach / counselor every week as well to help get her ontrack to finding a new job and working with her mental illness / minor autismto help with work skills. Post by brother nr. 167
Jenna is inthe autism spectrum; has a form of high-functioning autism. can easily bemanipulated and doesn't realize what she is doing is bad. However she alwaysalways said that she would never do drugs and would say it in a pretty big tone. Post by brother nr. 168.
Parentsaddress on the drivers license. Postbrother nr 323
Car spottedin other state in July 2017? She frequently went up to South Carolina (believedby brother to be in Greenville area, post nr. 355) to babysit for a friend .Have spoken to said friend several times and she is one of her best friends,post brother nr 328
Rumorsabout Jenna being a sex worker have never been confirmed. Post brother nr. 330According to parents this was said by a disgruntled ex-boyfriend. Post nr. 384.
Rumorsabout Jenna going missing before are not true according to the parents. Never, absolutely never - never disappeared,”Jenna’s father said. “If she ever went to South Carolina, that’s the furthestshe's ever gone. We knew where she was going, who she was going to be with andshe was always in contact with us.” Post nr. 384.
August 16, 2016 last post public post of Jenna on her ownFacebookaccount, post is about looking for a job
January – March 2017
We trackedthis phone no I found on metro to a number that showed up a lot Jan - March andthen died off around when she said it was finished . Was also was around thetime of the supposed theft. Post by brother 167.
February 2017.

• Shehad a job back in Feb at the pet store but we found out through a friend shehad been fired for theft at the store. Which is really not like her.
  
• Wefound out large sums of money had been taken in total from various times fromher register. She was arrested, and through the court case, we were able tohave the sentence reduced to a misdemeanor. She would not tell us where themoney went and that she was "framed" by a manager. I am starting to think that maybe she did dothis and paid one of these guys with the money. Posted by brother post162.
  
• Afriend was able to confirm that she back in Feb was on and off with another guywho was violent , but again she would not tell us who and that it was done andnever happening again. Post by brother nr. 167 Does one of herfriends know this person?
  
• Originallytheft by talking, reduced by misdemeanor and nixed. http://justice.fultoncountyga.gov/PASupCrtCM/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=7400697
  
• Atfirst she had to go to court plea at 8/21, but the case was settled before soshe didn’t had to go there anymore.
  
• Thiskind of behavior was labeled as uncharacteristic for Jenna.
  
• It appears in February she switched to a newemail for her Apple ID which we do not have. Post by brother nr. 367

August 14, 2017 Jenna became a member of Atlanta Housing groupon August 14, 2017, Jenna reacted on post of somebody asking for a roommate,planning to move in September 2017. Send me a message <name> ASAP. Onquestions about the neighborhood the girl’s post asking for a roommate; “Jenna was living right between those twoareas (Buckhead and Midtown)” post nr. 462
August 15, 16, 17 no known activity

• Parentsleft for Canada on? Jenna agreed on house sitting She arrived at the house on? With her car? Did she meet her parents beforethey left? Key to the house turnedover/she had her own set? Did they met,what was her state of mind? and watch over the old dear cat. Parentswere planning to stay in Canada until August 26 (post 34, by brother)
  
• Jennatold vet and brother she would be there all weekend. Post number 34 by brother. Because she didn’t dare to give the medicineto the cat she was very attached to, so vet could help her giving the medicine(post by brother 34) Why didbrother come over? “We know shewould have worked with me and the vet assistant (who didn't have a key to thehouse) if she had planned to leave” post34 by brother….did she plannedto leave….I’m not getting this…..

August 18, Friday

• Friendtalked to her briefly before she left (to where?) By media ….he told the police. Face to face, by phone. What time? Friday night she had left a friendsplace to come home around 11 pm, in mother's car. Why in mother’s car? (post 34 by brother) He claims she wanted a relationship but he didnot knowing the theft issue. Posted by brother post 167
  
• Anotherfriend said she had a conversation with Van Gelderen. From media (face to face, on the phone?)on Saturday <after Friday12 pm> and later received atext saying she was lying down. Therehad to be some contact prior….you don’t send somebody out of the blue a textmessage that you are lying down. We are not sure that it was Jenna thatactually send that text.
  
• 2am had sent a text to a friend that she was going to bed. (post 34 by brother) The friend at 2 am was on T-Mobile account anda very good friend in Sc my parents know well Jenna used to baby sit for her.She has not seen her either up that way. Post from brother 185
  
• Jenna talked to her mother twicea day….also on august 18th ? Or were parents traveling on that day? How was contact with mother made, by phone,Facebook, did she came to parents house twice a day other way?
  
• Accordingto everyone she had returned to my parents place that night. Post by brother nr310.
  
• Iwas able to access the voice mail earlier on it and found a pocket dial at 11.50pm Friday . I have given the number to our p.i . I have been able to locatethat number tied to an Instagram account with references to pimping and clubson Cambelton Rd . Posted by brother post 135
  
• Thenumber for the pocket dial was tied to an Instagram account as well that leadsme.to believe something more is up. Also metro pcs number as well. Metro pcsdid say her no she was not the primary account holder as well. Posted bybrother nr. 140. I’m not surewhat this means. Was the Metro pcs her second (not known by family) phone? Isshe wasn’t the primary account holder, who was? Was she listed as a user, was it somebody’selse phone entirely?
  
• Ido have an Instagram account tied to the number I found last night just notsure if it is wise to post it publicly posted by brother nr. 180 Any follow through?
  
• Theinsta is tied to a suspect that called her last not directly Jenna's insta.post by brother 191
  
• Confusing post to me by Jubunatl,brother replying post nr. 188 : Is there a reason the trustworthy friend that is from South Carolina wascalling her at 2am? Nomentioning of this earlier in the thread. Seems like an odd time tochat. Did her or any of the more trustworthy longer term friends have anythingto say about the roommate or what kind of person he is? Brother’s response; They were always in contact through textseven late at night , but she was never informed by Jenna of her whereaboutspost 188
  
• Throughaccess d.d. 8/31 on her e-mail and Facebook on family finds out on whatlocations she was and which locations she searches for on google maps:

• Visitedtownhome that she frequently went to
  
• Searchedfor another address on Google, promptly after
  
• Afterthat no activity, all activity meaning location tracking?end on 11.30 p.m. posts brother nr. 406 and 408
  
• Newinfo found at 9/1 by brother. Driving from there <town home> down to midtown (14th andCrecsent Ave) which is near Opera night club. Post 464. According to info she did go the town home then/had the intention tomeet him? What is it with the town homeguy story? She went there for an appointment with him, but she didn’t comeaccording to his statement….. Is she didn’t go to the Opera night club, where was she going, whatcould be another destination in that area?
  
• NDecatur road & Dekalb Industrial way Do we know a time?
  
• 3stops maybe 4 stops at gas stations…Is there hard evidence that shevisited 3 maybe 4 gas stations, having a hard time finding this info again….witchone? Is there any info on what she persuaded …info from debet card? Are thereCCTV footages? Posted on Facebook Help find Jenna, probably posted by friend ofthe family, but still not hard info to put here.
  
• Cheshireand Lavista road Do we know atime
  
• Seenwith an unidentified male passenger in her mother’s car. Per FB Help find Jenna van Gelderen By whom?

• Maybe we should keep thefollowing thing in mind…”I read that google mapstimeline can be inaccurate at times. There are whole forums with peopleconfused as to why the timeline shows places they've never been too. Peoplewhose spouses are convinced they're cheating etc. because of inaccurate googletimeline. Sounds like if wifi signal is poor it can maybe pick up phone signalsof other people nearby...just something to consider” Post by Jbunatti, nr. 471. Seems likethe area is very unlikely to loose signals, but….
  
• Thefamily sent the p.i to that address <townhome> and he talked to the guy there. He said they hadplans to meet for food but she never made it down there. At what time did they had anappointment? Did he call her when she didn’t show up, checked with her inanother way? Who is this person? What kind of relationship they had?
  
• Accordingto brother the FBI talked to this townhome guy and his story was checked out. I really wonder what this story is…. Open question stays why is FBIinvolved, does family knows?
  
• Thephone number of the townhome guy seems not the same as the pocket callnumber. Post by brother nr. 416
  
• Shewas driving in her mums car that evening a dark red Mazda 3 sedan (2010). We also know that she was in my mom’scars is this a typo or doesmum own more than one car? mostof that night, so she had to have come back (with someone we assume) to havethe cars switched post by brother nr. 464 What was the reason she used mums car?
  
• Weare still trying to piece together why Jenna was driving my mom's car Friday ,like if she loaned hers to a friend etc. We still do not know, however policenever finger printed it post by brother nr 605
  
• Thereseems to be a comment on one of Jenna's friends' facebook pages where it seemslike the girl might have been with her that Friday night. The brother wastagged in the post but not sure he saw it. She's also a friend of brother Postnr. 568 and 571 Post on FB can’tconfirm She says she wishes she wouldn't have gone home that night. Thereference to 'home' could mean several different things.

August 19, Saturdaybrother called at around 9:30 Withcellular phone, number house parent? goes to parents house, arrivesthere at 10.30 am (Post brother nr. 162 ), to give the cat meds. .(from flyerand posts brother 34) Wasthere a problem with the vet, why was the vet not coming as scheduled, insteadbrother came?
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/dekalb-county/missing-dekalb-county-woman-disappeared-while-housesitting/599493475interview with family, video

• Jennanot at the house
  
• Doorlocked (deadbolt was locked, post 619 bybrother)
  
• Nosign of forced entry
  
• TV-on
  
• Lightson
  
• Chargerat the house
  
• Pairof shoes at the house
  
• Jenna’s car gone (2010, Blue Mazda 6 sedan, licenseplate PWH5029, Noticeable scratches on driver side, dent on top of the trunk,and missing cross bar on the front grille) Is the car listed a stolen by now?
  
• Jenna’sphone and purse not at the house
  
• Motherscar at home (dark red Mazda 3 sedan (2010))
  
• Housein some disarray (what kind?)
  
• Noevidence of struggle
  
• Tapestrymissing (It was an Egyptian tapestry / buffet cover from aroundWWII. Never had been appraised so don'tknow the worth, but it’s a very odd thing to take. (brother’s post 55)
  
• Theonly thing I really know and have discussed with parents is that it is from myGrandfather / WWII era. It’s not something we ever really talked about. But Ido know that it was quite faded, and had a lot of birds on it. Retrieving itisn't so much important, but rather if anyone had tried to sell it to a pawnshop / craigslist in the past few days post by brother 156
  
• The tapestry that is missing is part of a set2x end table covers (what is <the picture> posted) and a buffet coverthat was framed . The buffet cover is what is missing and very similar to this<the picture posted> Post by brother nr. 133 From Facebook by Leon vanGelderen: https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1624607500896522&id=100000418644521&set=a.973355179355094.1073741826.100000418644521&source=57&ref=content_filter
  approx. 2 feet by five feet (approx. 61 cm x 152 cm)
  
• Tapestry was ina heavy frame, carefully removed by breaking a small piece of the glass andframe hung back on the wall. The frame definitely takes 2 people to put backup. Glass on the frame appears to have been cleaned as well, very odd.) Taken from frame, pictureavailable is a same kind of cloth but not theitem itself (brother’s post 55)
  
• shouldmention on that picture frame, the missing piece of glass was still on theframe when I found it. It fell out when we and the police took the frame downto inspect and due to safety kept it off post of brother nr 264
  
• What about the missing suitcase? Whendid the parents notice that a suitcase was missing? That's so weird because my parents were theones that noticed the suit case gone 2 days later from when I gave thestatement. I've been a little aggravated today that our statements are notright and thus transferring to the media, post by brother nr. 281 Did she bring the suitcase with heror was it in the house. How big was the suitcase? Big enough to transfer
  a person in?
  
• Noactivity on social media accounts, bank accounts, phone….. (since the day shedisappeared)……after ? couldfamily, LE establish a time?
  
• Jenna’spassport kept by parents at the bank
  
• Bothphones are missing and off
  
• Appearsthat Jenna has (besides a T-mobile onher parents account) a second phone where family didn’t know off….. Metro pcs. Alsoher other phone she was paying for on her own, not sure why. Would be helpfulto see the statements on the phone to see last calls and texts. We have gonethrough our family TMobile plan to see who she contacted last. Post bybrother 98.
  
• Toiletriesand what not were still in the bathroom (post 81 by brother )
  
• Throughaccess on her mails and Facebook on 8/31 family finds out that on 8/19 therewas no activity.

August 20, Sunday2017. Reported missing by brother
August 21,22, 23, 24 family is finding more out about the apartment /address Jennalived/stayed through P.I. and LE. Family is trying to find out about roommate….He don’t want towork with family. Says no to parents, post by brother nr 195

• Maleroommate says no access to the apartment. Told the family to need a warrant. Who is this person and why havedifficulties? How did Jenna getacquainted with this person and decide to live with them?
  
• Wejust don't know on this. We tried to have her <Jenna> tell us but shewould not. Really starting to wonder about him as well and if he may be tied tosomething in this. Post brother, nr. 152
  
• Distancebetween her apartment and the pet store she worked at in February is a 6minutes’ walk.

August 25,Friday

• Brothertalks to police about access to Jenna’s apartment. Her roommate won't allow usto, need the local police to go over there, but it’s been a week now and theystill have not spoken to the roommate(according to them Friday) post brother on Sunday nr. 149

August 26, Saturday.
Family getnews that she is found that night, but it turned up to be not correct. Post number 34, by brother of Jenna. Parents planned to come home ‘this Saturday”but returned earlier.
August 27,Sunday

• Wehave a few neighbors that have videos from their systems pointed at the street,unfortunately nothing directly on our street. Post by brother nr. 104

August 28, Monday.

• Thismorning with this new info it seems so now they are taking it more seriously <checkingapartment Jenna, strange behavior roommate> post brother nr. 182.

August 29,Tuesday

• CandlelightVigil for Jenna Van Gelderen 7:30 PM ·Congregation Shearith Israel - Atlanta · Atlanta, GA
  
• Apartmenthas not been searched as far as I know unless done today. Post by brother nr.292
  
• Apartmentis not in the same LE jurisdiction as the parents’ home (DeKalb and FultonCounty)

August 30,Wednesday

• Believeour LE has made contact with roommate and <we> should be hearing soon if he <policeman> is going tovisit the apt finally! Post by brother nr. 351.
  
• Ifound her laptop the other day, she stopped using it months ago as It won'tturn on. Turned it over to the police to see if they can find anything on thedrive that may help. Post by brother nr. 359 Did this bring leads to go on?
  
• SoI discovered today that Jenna for sure had iMessage enabled at least I believeso. I tried from my Mac to send her a text via iMessage to her phone number andit was delivered but not read. I Havegotten access to 2 icloud accounts now with old emails that she had and usingthe security questions. Post brother nr. 362. Did this bring leads to go on?
  
• Brotheris trying to find out more about her e-mail accounts/Apple ID site. I've tried the 2 known emails that we havefor her and no luck. Post nr. 367.
  
• OkI got in finally. I had been going to iCloud.com. I managed to figure out theright email from the Apple ID site and it shows her phone and phone no as alisted device. I have an old iPad thatI'm restoring with her account info. Itlooks like though and this is odd, it says no back ups of apps and dataavailable. All contacts and messages are wiped and photos only show January ofthis year and prior. Couldthis have something to do what happened in February, destroying evidence or berelated to the supposed violent boyfriend back in February? It's like she turned off all back-up settingsor someone wiped a lot of her phone. Post 369. Maybe somebody could change this stuff to a morecomprehending text, because this is out of my league.
  
• Aboutthe supposed violent boyfriend back in February; We have just heard through thegrapevine of this but she would never tell us of this guy, there hasn't beenany contact from him or her in a while that we could find on the phone logsthough. Post of brother nr. 377.
  
• Policeis going to interview friend(s) about the possible violent boyfriend she waswith in February. (myinterpretation bases on content of the post) Yup, p.i and police areinterviewing today. Post by brother nr. 375
  
• Policevisited Jenna’s apartment. We got herstuff back yesterday <d.d.8/30> . Doesn't sound like they got anything of interest out of goingover there. Posted on 8/31 by brother, nr. 393 Needless to say that they didn’t find Jenna at theapartment. Were there only clothes, was there anything else retrieved from theapartment? Did she really had a room/bed there? Wat was the state of this room?Any signs that she had been there/lived there? Did the so called roommate really lived there? What happened to therent?
  
• Aboutbringing the roommate for questioning and found items: Not aware of it, soundslike she just had some clothes there and that’s it. But again who knows at thispoint. I could speculate that the roommate got rid of stuff . Working to find out more this a.m . Stillsounds so fishy to me. Post by brother nr. 397

August 31,Thursday

• Heyguys sorry for the silence this morning. We have gotten access to her emailsand Facebook through some nifty work with T-Mobile. Google has a handy featurenow called time line in Google maps. If anyone has used before it's creepy butvery handy. Post by brother nr. 399
  
• Thefamily has finally access to her mails and Facebook. Brother writes about thisin posts 401 and 403. We have gotten access to her emails and Facebook through somenifty work with T-Mobile. Google has a handy feature now called time line inGoogle maps. It shows right now her entire history of locations and whereaboutsfor Friday the 18, including locations she search on maps. Sat 19 no activity

September1, Friday

• Soupdates.. long day yesterday <d.d.9/1> The tricky part right now is figuring out the last few hoursbefore her activity ends. There is this apartment / townhome I mentioned. Stillfiguring out the deal with that and then I discovered that the timeline goes abit more and shows driving from there down to midtown (14th and Crecsent Ave)which is near Opera night club. We also know that she was in my mom’s car mostof that night, so she had to have come back (with someone we assume) to havethe cars switched <because her mother’s car was atthe parents’ house>

September 2, Saturday
September 3, Sunday
September4, Monday

• Thereis a $10,000 reward for info leading to her return per Help Find Jenna FB site.

September5,6 Tuesday, Wednesday
September7, Thursday

• Thereis a person of interest (officially?) Persons name known by family. 33 years and about 6 feet, working insecurity, known to Jenna, probably February from Pet shop. < I want to be careful about thedetails>

Hey guys sorry for the absence this week. Beentrying to refocus on my own job search. We have a persons of interest. He is the lastperson to see her that Friday night and his stories keep changing on when andwhere he saw her and has previously been at the house and driven Jenna's caraccording to friends. <modsnip> <I can’t put name up here> We have an email tip line aswell FindJennaNow@gmail.com. Post by brother nr. 755

Taken from the timeline #766...

Thefamily sent the p.i to that address <townhome> and he talked to the guy there. He said they hadplans to meet for food but she never made it down there. At what time did they had anappointment? Did he call her when she didn’t show up, checked with her inanother way? Who is this person? What kind of relationship they had?

* Accordingto brother the FBI talked to this townhome guy and his story was checked out. I really wonder what this story is…. Open question stays why is FBIinvolved, does family knows?


Copied from Subie #856....


"We do not know for sure. We know she specifically searched for that town home address that Wednesday and when I search more on her timeline that is the address that shows up (not her apt specifically) . It is a gated community (townhome) but it is literally behind her apt. Police were supposed to check out this and inform us, but have not heard anymore. She could have visited this address or she could have just used it as a reference to get to her apt, we just do not know"

Did or did not the Police or P.I talk to the townhome guy? Are there 2 townhome guys? The last i saw it was stated that the townhome was right behind her apartment. Im confused [emoji848] i dont know why she would need a reference for her own address. They had plans to meet for food but where? "She never made it down there" down where? The townhome... or a place they were meeting for food.

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[Shiressleuth]

Stanly, & Hope, the Fulton county link above doesn't work anymore. So I did a new search under Jenna's name and her case is listed as Disorderly conduct only ( a negotiated guilty plea). No record of theft or stealing at all. Maybe update the timeline?
Just want to stop any speculation she is living somewhere based on proceeds of a theft because no court record of that at all. We know the back story of the matter from Subie but the court record is the fact of the matter IMO.

 

[Bit of hope]

By gathering all the sometimes contradicting and confusing information on this thread I tried to establish another timeline. There are a lot of holes in it and question marks. Fill in the blanks if you have more/other information.


TimelineFriday 8/18 and 8/19 timewise

Friday
? a.m. Brothergoes to parents&#8217; house. This is the last time he saw her. Jenna&#8217;s car is at thehouse. He doesn&#8217;t know about mom&#8217; car,because this car is normally in the garage and not directly visible.

2 p.m. Vet-assistantgoes to parent&#8217; house. Doesn&#8217;t have a key to the house, so Jenna had to bethere to let him in.

4-5 p.m. Brother talked by phone with Jenna. Her location atthat point is unknown to him.

? Friend(can we label this friend, isthis townhouse guy?) talked to her briefly before she left (to where?) Friday night shehad left a friends place to come home (what is home mean, her parents&#8217; house or her own apartment around 11 pm) in mother's car. Why in mother&#8217;s car? (post 34by brother) He claims she wanted arelationship but he did not knowing the theft issue. Posted by brotherpost 167. Where is this friends place?

? Searched foranother address on Google. Witch address was this? We know she specifically searched for that townhome address that Wednesday? andwhen I search more on her timeline that is the address that shows up (not herapt specifically). It is a gated community (townhome) but it is literallybehind her apt.

? Believedto have visited townhome where she frequently went to Is this the same place mentioned above? According to brother this/atownhome is behind Jenna&#8217;s apartment.

? Drivingfrom there <town home?> downto midtown (14th and Crecsent Ave) which is near Opera night club. Post 464.

8-10 p.m. Onand off with some guy. From interviewswith him. He advised her not to come to his part of town (college Park) with mymom's car, and that he would meet her closer to her apartment. According to himshe never showed. Why mom&#8217;s car/why not her own car? Atwhat time did they supposed to meet up and where?

Ca. 10 p.m. She stopped in the Area of English Avenue (North andNorthside Drive) for about 5-6 minutes. By google maps timeline. In witch car?

10 p.m. According to POI Jenna came to his apartment. The place Jenna stopped at 10 pm doesnot add up with the statement of the POI&#8217;s that she was at his address at 10 a.m., because it is in a differentarea. In witch car?

10:30 p.m. Verified friend has spoken to her that night and he recallsher driving my mom's car. Post 612 by brother.

? Debitcardused at Texaco @ N Decatur Rd

? Debetcard used at DeKalb Industrial Chevron @ Cheshire Bridge

11 p.m. Debet card used at LaVista Wendy's at 1940 PiedmontRoad she was at the gasstation at Lavista and Cheshire Bridge around 11PM, post 775, info fromFacebooksite. Also mentioned earlier in the thread Cheshire and Lavistaroad&#8230;are these names all refer to the same approx. location? Reallyconfirmed is that Wendy's based on the straw wrapper in my mom's car /passenger seat pushed back. Post by brother 833.

? Debetcard used at Chevron @ N Decatur Rd & Clairemont

? Seenwith an unidentified male passenger in her mother&#8217;s car. Per FB Help find Jenna van Gelderen. By whom, where and what time?

11:30 After that no activity, all activity end on11.30 p.m. meaning activity on location tracking, so Google maps Timeline wasswitched off? Posts brother nr. 406 and 408

11:30-1:30 Could have gone back to parents&#8217; houseor elsewhere. Family is not sure of that and doesn&#8217;t know what happened aroundthen. Again I don'tknow on this as her timeline activity dies around then with her going down tomidtown . So we do not know for sure what happened around then. ? According to everyone (who is everyone?) she had returned to myparents place that night. Whodo they know? Post by brother nr 310. We know a little after this shehas gone to that Wendys. Then back to either her apartment or this town home Imentioned earlier. It is right behind her apartment. Could be Google error.

11:45 p.m. In contact with her S.C. friend, must have been aconversation on the phone, because S.C. friend didn&#8217;t know where Jenna was atthat point.

11.50 p.m. By voicemail on Metro pcs Jenna: pocket call from somebody. Number (also a metro pcs number) is tied to an Instagram account withreferences to pimping and clubs on Cambelton Rd . Posted by brother post 135.

1:30-2 a.m. Text message to S.C. friend, saying &#8216;laying down&#8217;. We are not sure that it was Jenna that actually send that text.

Saturday
9:30 a.m. Brother calls Jenna, phone goes tovoicemail
? Atwhat time vet called brother and parents that Jenna is not at the house and herphone is dead. He doesn&#8217;t have a key.

10:30 a.m. Brother is at the parents&#8217; house, Jenna is not there. Jenna&#8217;scar is not at the house, her mom&#8217;s car is.

 

[Bit of hope]

Stanly, & Hope, the Fulton county link above doesn't work anymore. So I did a new search under Jenna's name and her case is listed as No record of theft or stealing at all. Maybe update the timeline?
Just want to stop any speculation she is living somewhere based on proceeds of a theft because no court record of that at all. We know the back story of the matter from Subie but the court record is the fact of the matter IMO.

I'm sorry but I'm not aware of any speculation from my side....I just give back the info on a certain point in time. But I altered the timeline.

 

[Shiressleuth]

I'm sorry but I'm not aware of any speculation from my side....I just give back the info on a certain point in time. But I altered the timeline.

No I meant from posters generally no one specifically. No offence intended to anyone. There is a new case number but I didn't note it as I searched on name only.

 

[Bit of hope]

Timeline Jenna van Gelderen missing
Jenna, 25years old, 4”11’, 140 lbs, long dark hair, pierced ears. Address; 2255 Lenox Road. Atlanta PD Zone 2 DeKalbcounty. ‘Lenox Woods apartments’, livingright between the areas Buckhead and Midtown.
Missing fromParents house; address; (from facebook page and media) 1289, Oakdaleroad, Atlanta. Druid Hills home, GA. DeKalb county, GA. Near Emory University In fact it is not sure if she wentmissing from her parents’ house.
https://www.facebook.com/HelpFindJennaVG/
About herliving space/apartment ‘She would never tell us this address, we only found outthrough the P.I and the police. Accordingto them she is on the lease. Prior we didn't know this and though she wasjust staying on a friend's couch according to what she had told us. Post bybrother 313. She had a male roommate At what moment in time she signed the lease contract for this apartment?Is the roommate just staying/living there or was he also on the lease?
Distancebetween her apartment and parents address: 3 miles
She hadbeen seeing a career coach / counselor every week as well to help get her ontrack to finding a new job and working with her mental illness /minor autism tohelp with work skills. Post by brother nr. 167
Jenna is inthe autism spectrum; has a form of high-functioning autism. Can easily bemanipulated and doesn't realize what she is doing is bad. However she alwaysalways said that she would never do drugs and would say it in a pretty big tone. Post by brother nr. 168.
Parentsaddress on the drivers license. Postbrother nr 323
Jenna’spassport kept by parents at the bank
Jenna usedtwo phones; T-mobile (in a family plan, parents account) and another (unknownby family but later found out) a Metro pcs number. According to post nr. 140 bybrother she was not the primary accountholder. Who was? Was shelisted as a user, was it somebody’s else phone entirely?
Jenna’s carwas spotted in South Carolina in July 2017. Her ties with that: She frequentlywent up to South Carolina (believed by brother to be in Greenville area, postnr. 355) to babysit for a friend. Have spoken to said friend several times andshe is one of her best friends, post brother nr 328
Rumorsabout Jenna being a sex worker have never been confirmed. Post brother nr. 330According to parents this was said by a disgruntled ex-boyfriend. Post nr. 384.
Rumorsabout Jenna going missing before are not true according to the parents. “Never, absolutely never - neverdisappeared,” Jenna’s father said. “If she ever went to South Carolina, that’sthe furthest she's ever gone. We knew where she was going, who she was going tobe with and she was always in contact with us.” Post nr. 384.
August 16, 2016 last public post of Jenna on her own Facebookaccount,post is about looking for a job
January – March 2017
We trackedthis phone number I found on metro to a number that showed up a lot Jan - Marchand then died off around when she said it was finished . Was also around thetime of the supposed theft. Post by brother 167.
February 2017.

• Shehad a job back in Feb at the pet store but we found out through a friend shehad been fired for theft at the store. Which is really not like her.
  
• Wefound out large sums of money had been taken in total from various times fromher register. She was arrested, and through the court case, we were able tohave the sentence reduced to a misdemeanor. She would not tell us where themoney went and that she was "framed" by a manager. I am starting to think that maybe she did dothis and paid one of these guys (towitch guys is referred to ?) with the money. Posted by brother post 162.
  
• Thiskind of behavior was labeled as uncharacteristic for Jenna.
  
• Thecase was nixed/settled, by negotiation and labeled as ‘disorderly conduct’ only.
  
• Afriend was able to confirm that she back in Feb was on and off with another guywho was violent , but again she would not tell us who and that it was done andnever happening again. Post by brother nr.167 Does one of her friendsknow this person?
  
• Itappears in February she switched to a new email for her Apple ID which we donot have. Post by brother nr. 367

August 14, 2017 Jenna became a member of Atlanta Housing groupon August 14, 2017, Jenna reacted on post of somebody asking for a roommate,planning to move in September 2017. Send me a message <name> ASAP. Onquestions about the neighborhood the girl’s post asking for a roommate; “Jenna was living right between those twoareas (Buckhead and Midtown)” post nr. 462
August 15, 16, no known activity so far

• Parentsleft for Canada on what day? Jenna agreed on house sitting She arrived at the house on what day? With her car? Did she meet her parents beforethey left? Key to the house turned over/shehad her own set? Did they met, what washer state of mind? and watch over the old dear cat.
  
• Parentswere planning to stay in Canada until August 26 (post 34, by brother)
  
• Jennatold vet and brother she would be there all weekend. Post number 34 by brother. Because she didn’t dare to give the medicineto the cat she was very attached to, so vet could help her giving the medicine(post by brother 34) Why didbrother had to come also? “Weknow she would have worked with me and the vet assistant (who didn't have a keyto the house) if she had planned to leave” post 34 by brother….didshe planned to leave….I’m not getting this entirely.

August 17, Thursday

• Shehad some friends over for a small get together I believe Thursday night anddidn't clean up the rooms upstairs. This info came out later from a friend thatwas over there . Right now we know of Jenna and 2 others that were at the housefor sure that night . Trying to find out who else may have been there. Post bybrother 827

August 18, Friday

• Iwas at the house Friday a.m to give the cat her meds, I remember seeing the car<Jenna’s car> there.Sorry guys I forgot I had muted this for a bit when I was working on my jobhunting post by brother 812. I saw her Friday A.M that was that last time I sawher. Post by brother 831. At what time? Were the friendsalready gone? Was mom’s car at thehouse? Didn't notice. My mom'scar stays in the external garage in the back, where as Jenna's was in a visibleparking spot in the back. Post brother 849
  
• Yes,meds were given that <Friday> afternoon. The vet assistant came by around2 pm I believe. He did not have a key to the house either so Jenna had to bethere to let him in. Post by brother 816 Has anyone talked to him about what she and the house seemed like?
  
• Italked to her that evening to confirm everything was ok for the rest of theweekend. Post by brother 831. Musthave been by phone, because in the morning the brother saw Jenna for the lasttime. At what time was this call made ? Yes I believe I spoke to heraround 4-5 pm (vague memory on that) Brother does not know if she was at home <meaning at the parents’ home> Can’t you look at your own phonewhen you made the call? My phone log on on my phone only goes back tothe 25th of Aug , posted by brother nr 840.
  
• Shewas also in contact with one other guy that night on and of between 8 and 10pm. From interviews with him. He advisedher not to come to his part of town (college Park) with my mom's car, and thathe would meet her closer to her apartment. According to him she never showed.
  
• PerGoogle maps timeline; She stopped in the Area of English Avenue (North andNorthside Drive) for about 5-6 minutes around 10pm.
  
• Weknow Friday night she had been in contact with this person of interest viatexting / calling / and seeing him. According to him she came to his apartment Approx. 10 pm Where does this person live? Is itin the neighborhood/Area of English Ave? The place Jenna stopped at 10 pm does not add up with thestatement of the POI’s that she was at his address at 10 a.m., because it is in a differentarea.
  
• Shehad also been in contact with her friend in S.C around 11:45 pm and then her last text with her wasaround 1:30 - 2 am. Saying laying down
  
• Friendtalked to her briefly before she left (to where?) By media ….he told the police. Face to face, by phone. What time? Friday night she had left a friendsplace to come home (what is home mean, her parents’ house or her own apartment around 11 pm, in mother'scar. Why in mother’s car? (post34 by brother) He claims she wanted arelationship but he did not knowing the theft issue. Posted by brother post 167 sooo olderinformation
  
• Webelieve so as a verified friend has spoken to her that night late around 1030and he recalls her driving my mom's car. Post 612 by brother
  
• Anotherfriend said she had a conversation with Van Gelderen. From media (face to face, on the phone?)on Saturday <after Friday12 pm> So at present it seemsthe SC friend was the last to speak to J at 11.45 p.m. approx. Have LE and you spoken to thisfriend? What did they discuss and did the friend know where Jenna was when theyspoke? The LE has spoken to the S.C. friend , as well as the p.i and myparents . She did not know where Jenna was. Post by brother 847.
  
• Accordingto everyone she had returned to my parents place that night. Post by brother nr310.

• 2am Jenna had sent a text to a friend (T-mobileaccount, to baby-sit friend in South Carolina) that she was going to bed. She <the S.C. friend> hasnot seen her either up that way. Postsfrom brother 34, 185 Why theyhad contact that late? Brother’s response; They were always in contact through textseven late at night , but she was never informed by Jenna of her whereabouts.Post 188. It is not a factthat Jenna text this message herself, could have done by somebody else havingher phone. Add. By me.
  
• Jennatalked to her mother twice a day.Also on august 18th? Or were parents traveling on that day? How was contact with mother made, by phone,Facebook, did she came to parents house twice a day, other way?
  
• Iwas able to access the voice mail earlier on it and found a pocket dial at 11.50pm Friday . I have given the number to our p.i . I have been able to locatethat number tied to an Instagram account with references to pimping and clubson Cambelton Rd . Posted by brother post 135. The number for the pocket dialwas tied to an Instagram account as well that leads me to believe somethingmore is up. Also metro pcs number as well. Any follow through?
  
• TheInstagram mentioned above is notJenna's Instagram. post by brother 191
  
• Throughaccess d.d. 8/31 on her e-mail and Facebook on family finds out on whatlocations she was and which locations she searches for on google maps timeline:

• Visitedtownhome that she frequently went to
  
• Searchedfor another address on Google, promptly after
  
• Afterthat no activity, all activity end on11.30 p.m. meaning googlemaps timeline? This has to be switched off then. Add. By me. posts brother nr. 406 and 408
  
• Newinfo found at 9/1 by brother. Driving from there <town home> down to midtown (14th andCrecsent Ave) which is near Opera night club. Post 464. According to info she did go the town home then/had the intention tomeet him? What is it with the town homeguy story? She went there for an appointment with him, but she didn’t comeaccording to his statement….. Curious. I was under the impression the guy wholived in the townhouse that was found through google maps timeline was the onewho said they had plans but she didn't show up. Is that not correct? Replyby brother : At this point honestlyI don't know. The police were supposed to check this town home but won't tellme what they have found. The odd thing is the town home like I said is behindher apt.
  
• If she didn’t go to the Operanight club, where was she going, what could be another destination in thatarea? We do not knowanymore on this
  
• 4stops at gas stations Is thereany info on what she persuaded …info from debet card, who much money was taken?Are there CCTV footages? In what car? Posted by a family-friend on FacebookThe last places Jenna used her debit cardon Friday, Aug 18:
  - Texaco @ N Decatur Rd
  - DeKalb Industrial Chevron @ Cheshire Bridge
  - LaVista Wendy's at 1940 Piedmont Road she was at the gas station at Lavista and Cheshire Bridgearound 11PM, post 775, info from Facebooksite.Also mentioned earlier in the thread Cheshire and Lavista road…are these names all refer to the sameapprox. location? Really confirmed is that Wendy's based on thestraw wrapper in my mom's car / passenger seat pushed back. Post by brother833.
  - Chevron @ N Decatur Rd & Clairemont
  
• Seenwith an unidentified male passenger in her mother’s car. Per FB Help find Jenna van Gelderen By whom, where and what time?

• GoogleMaps Timeline can be inaccurate. Post nr.471. Seems like the area is very unlikely to loose signals, but….also you haveto put on ‘Location History’ in Google MapsTimeline before it registered your whereabouts through a device and you canadd/change it yourself. Post nr. 782.
  
• Weknow a little after this she has gone to that Wendys. Then back to either herapartment or this town home I mentioned earlier. It is right behind herapartment. Could be Google error.
  
• Presumablywe assume she made it back to parents house somewhere between 1130 and 130 am.Again I don't know on this as her timeline activity dies around then with hergoing down to midtown . So we do not know for sure what happened around then
  
• Thefamily sent the p.i to that address <townhome> and he talked to the guy there. How did the family know about thisguy in the first place? He said they had plans to meet for food but shenever made it down there. Atwhat time did they had an appointment? Did he call her when she didn’t show up,checked with her in another way? Who is this person? What kind of relationshipthey had? Where is this townhome and isthere in any way to proof that she (didn’t) went there (by phone signal,witness?) 9/1 brother states that they had found information that she drovefrom townhome down to midtown…Sooo did she or did she not went to the townhomeand see the guy. Could this mentioned town house be her own apartment?????Confusing
  
• Accordingto brother the FBI talked to this townhome guy and his story was checked out. I really wonder what this story is…. Open question stays why is FBIinvolved, does family knows?
  
• Thephone number of the townhome guy seems not the same as the pocket callnumber. Post by brother nr. 416
  
• Shewas driving in her mums car that evening a dark red Mazda 3 sedan (2010). We also know that she was in my mom’scars is this a typo or doesmum own more than one car? mostof that night, so she had to have come back (with someone we assume) to havethe cars switched post by brother nr. 464 What was the reason she used mums car? We arestill trying to piece together why Jenna was driving my mom's car Friday , likeif she loaned hers to a friend etc. We still do not know, however police neverfinger printed it post by brother nr 605
  
• Thereseems to be a comment on one of Jenna's friends' facebook pages where it seemslike the girl might have been with her that Friday night. The brother wastagged in the post but not sure he saw it. She's also a friend of brother Postnr. 568 and 571 Post on FB can’tconfirm She says she wishes she wouldn't have gone home that night. Thereference to 'home' could mean several different things.

August 19, Saturday

• Brothercalled at around 9:30 to Jenna. Withcellular phone, number house parent? goes to parents house, arrivesthere at 10.30 am (Post brother nr. 162 ), to give the cat meds. (from flyerand posts brother 34) I tried calling her that morning and her phone rang thenwent to voice mail. Had assumed she was sleeping in. Came by the house and shewas not there and then assumed she may have just run out quickly for an errand.Was there a problem with thevet, why was the vet not coming as scheduled, instead brother came? How come the vet assistant didn’t return onthe saturday? He <thevet> tried to but the door was locked and had tried to call Jenna tosee where she was . She had told both of us she was going to be around allweekend. Post by brother 823. We didn't know that morning she was missing forsure . My parents and I both got calls from the vet assistant that he wasn'table to get in and her phone was now dead. At 9:30 when brother called thephone rang and then went to voicemail. Somewhere between 9:30 and 10:30 the vetmust have come to the house, called parents and brother because Jenna wasn’tthere, he couldn’t get in and her phone was dead! So no voicemail anymore?Later brother noticing both phones are gone from the parents’ house andoff. Going straight to voicemail orcompletely dead?

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/dekalb-county/missing-dekalb-county-woman-disappeared-while-housesitting/599493475interview with family, video

• Jennanot at the house
  
• Doorlocked (deadbolt was locked, post 619 bybrother)
  
• Nosign of forced entry
  
• TV-on
  
• Lightson
  
• Chargerat the house
  
• Pairof shoes at the house
  
• Jenna’s car gone (2010, Blue Mazda 6 sedan, licenseplate PWH5029, Noticeable scratches on driver side, dent on top of the trunk,and missing cross bar on the front grille) Is the car listed as stolen by now?
  
• Jenna’sphone and purse not at the house
  
• Motherscar at home (dark red Mazda 3 sedan (2010))
  
• Housein some disarray what kind? Jennahad people over the other day for a get together and upstairs was not cleanedup.
  
• Noevidence of struggle
  
• Tapestry(more of an Egyptian khayamiya,as a WS member suggested) missing (It wasan Egyptian tapestry / buffet cover from around WWII) Never had been appraised so don't know theworth, but it’s a very odd thing to take. (brother’s post 55) https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21077291_1624615670895705_120030193465841363_n.jpg?oh=d704bfe7f8ce8a278f7785cd780233ee&oe=5A4DEC1FBlurry picture of tapestry.
  
• Itis from my Grandfather / WWII era. It’s not something we ever really talkedabout. But I do know that it was quite faded, and had a lot of birds on it.Retrieving it isn't so much important, but rather if anyone had tried to sellit to a pawn shop / craigslist in the past few days. post by brother 156
  
• The tapestry that is missing is part of a set2x end table covers (what is <the picture> posted) and a buffet coverthat was framed . The buffet cover is what is missing and very similar to this<the picture posted> Post by brother nr. 133 From Facebook by Leon vanGelderen: https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1624607500896522&id=100000418644521&set=a.973355179355094.1073741826.100000418644521&source=57&ref=content_filter
  approx. 2 feet by five feet (approx. 61 cm x 152 cm)
  
• Tapestry was ina heavy frame, carefully removed by breaking a small piece of the glass andframe hung back on the wall. The frame definitely takes 2 people to put backup. Glass on the frame appears to have been cleaned as well, very odd. Taken from frame, sharper pictureavailable is a same kind of cloth but not theitem itself (brother’s post 55)
  
• shouldmention on that picture frame, the missing piece of glass was still on theframe when I found it. It fell out when we and the police took the frame downto inspect and due to safety kept it off post of brother nr 264
  
• What about the missing suitcase? Whendid the parents notice that a suitcase was missing? That's so weird because my parents were theones that noticed the suit case gone 2 days later from when I gave thestatement. I've been a little aggravated today that our statements are notright and thus transferring to the media, post by brother nr. 281 Did she bring the suitcase with heror was it in the house. How big was the suitcase? Big enough to transfer
  a person in?
  
• Noactivity on social media accounts, bank accounts, phone….. (since the day shedisappeared)……after ? couldfamily, LE established a time?
  
• Bothphones are missing and off. So the T-mobile and the Metro pcs. Why also her Metro pcs phone whereher parents at that moment didn’t know about, paid by somebody else, Jenna was not the primary account holder?
  
• Toiletriesand what not were still in the bathroom (post 81 by brother )
  
• Throughaccess on her mails and Facebook on 8/31 family finds out that on 8/19 therewas no activity.

August 20, Sunday 2017.

• Itwasn't until that night <Saturday/Sunday> when I was at a wedding that we realized something waswrong.
  
• Sundaythey helped me (from Canada) to being the process of the missing personsreport.
  
• Itwas on Sunday also that I had just noticed the tapestry missing.
  
• Reportedmissing by brother

August 21,22, 23, 24 family is finding more out about the apartment /address Jennalived/stayed through P.I. and LE. Family is trying to find out about roommate….He doesn’t want towork with family. Says no to parents, post by brother nr 195

• Maleroommate says no access to the apartment. Told the family to need a warrant. Who is this person and why have difficulties? How did Jenna get acquainted with this personand decide to live with them?
  
• Wejust don't know on this. We tried to have her <Jenna> tell us but shewould not. Really starting to wonder about him as well and if he may be tied tosomething in this. Post brother, nr. 152
  
• Distancebetween her apartment and the pet store she worked at in February is a 6minutes’ walk.

August 25,Friday

• Brothertalks to police about access to Jenna’s apartment. Her roommate won't allow usto, need the local police to go over there, but it’s been a week now and theystill have not spoken to the roommate(according to them Friday) post brother on Sunday nr. 149

August 26, Saturday.
Family getnews that she is found that night, but it turned up to be not correct. Post number 34, by brother of Jenna. Parents planned to come home ‘this Saturday”but returned earlier.
August 27,Sunday

• Wehave a few neighbors that have videos from their systems pointed at the street,unfortunately nothing directly on our street. Post by brother nr. 104

August 28, Monday.

• Thismorning with this new info it seems so now they are taking it more seriously <checkingapartment Jenna, strange behavior roommate> post brother nr. 182.

August 29,Tuesday

• CandlelightVigil for Jenna Van Gelderen 7:30 PM ·Congregation Shearith Israel - Atlanta · Atlanta, GA
  
• Apartmenthas not been searched as far as I know unless done today. Post by brother nr.292
  
• Apartmentis not in the same LE jurisdiction as the parents’ home (DeKalb and Fulton County)

August 30,Wednesday

• Believeour LE has made contact with roommate and <we> should be hearing soon if he <policeman> is going tovisit the apt finally! Post by brother nr. 351.
  
• Ifound her laptop the other day, she stopped using it months ago as It won'tturn on. Turned it over to the police to see if they can find anything on thedrive that may help. Post by brother nr. 359 Did this bring leads to go on?
  
• SoI discovered today that Jenna for sure had iMessage enabled at least I believeso. I tried from my Mac to send her a text via iMessage to her phone number andit was delivered but not read. I Havegotten access to 2 icloud accounts now with old emails that she had and usingthe security questions. Post brother nr. 362. Did this bring leads to go on?
  
• Brotheris trying to find out more about her e-mail accounts/Apple ID site. I've tried the 2 known emails that we havefor her and no luck. Post nr. 367.
  
• OkI got in finally. I had been going to iCloud.com. I managed to figure out theright email from the Apple ID site and it shows her phone and phone no as alisted device. I have an old iPad thatI'm restoring with her account info. Itlooks like though and this is odd, it says no back ups of apps and dataavailable. All contacts and messages are wiped and photos only show January ofthis year and prior. Couldthis have something to do what happened in February at the Petstore or berelated to the supposed violent boyfriend back in February? It's like she turned off all back-up settingsor someone wiped a lot of her phone. Post 369. Maybe somebody could change this stuff to a morecomprehending text, because this is out of my league.
  
• Aboutthe supposed violent boyfriend back in February; We have just heard through thegrapevine of this but she would never tell us of this guy, there hasn't beenany contact from him or her in a while that we could find on the phone logsthough. Post of brother nr. 377.
  
• Policeis going to interview friend(s) about the possible violent boyfriend she waswith in February. (myinterpretation bases on content of the post) Yup, p.i and police areinterviewing today. Post by brother nr. 375
  
• Policevisited Jenna’s apartment. We got herstuff back yesterday <d.d.8/30> . Doesn't sound like they got anything of interest out of goingover there. Posted on 8/31 by brother, nr. 393 Needless to say that they didn’t find Jenna at theapartment. Were there only clothes, was there anything else retrieved from theapartment? Did she really had a room/bed there? Wat was the state of this room?Any signs that she had been there/lived there? Did the so called roommate really lived there? What happened to therent?
  
• Aboutbringing the roommate for questioning and found items: Not aware of it, soundslike she just had some clothes there and that’s it. But again who knows at thispoint. I could speculate that the roommate got rid of stuff . Working to find out more this a.m . Stillsounds so fishy to me. Post by brother nr. 397

August 31,Thursday

• Heyguys sorry for the silence this morning. We have gotten access to her emailsand Facebook through some nifty work with T-Mobile. Google has a handy featurenow called time line in Google maps. If anyone has used before it's creepy butvery handy. Post by brother nr. 399
  
• Thefamily has finally access to her mails and Facebook. Brother writes about thisin posts 401 and 403. We have gotten access to her emails and Facebook throughsome nifty work with T-Mobile. Google has a handy feature now called time linein Google maps. It shows right now her entire history of locations and whereaboutsfor Friday the 18, including locations she search on maps. Sat 19 no activity

September1, Friday

• Soupdates.. long day yesterday <d.d.9/1> The tricky part right now is figuring out the last few hours beforeher activity ends. There is this apartment / townhome I mentioned. Stillfiguring out the deal with that and then I discovered that the timeline goes abit more and shows driving from there down to midtown (14th and Crecsent Ave)which is near Opera night club. We also know that she was in my mom’s car mostof that night, so she had to have come back (with someone we assume) to havethe cars switched <because her mother’s car was atthe parents’ house>

September 2, Saturday
September 3, Sunday
September4, Monday

• Thereis a $10,000 reward for info leading to her return per Help Find Jenna FB site.

September5,6 Tuesday, Wednesday
September7, Thursday

• Thereis a person of interest (officially?)Persons name known by family. 33years and about 6 feet, working in security, known to Jenna, probably Februaryfrom Pet shop. < I want tobe careful about the details>

Hey guys sorry for the absence this week. Beentrying to refocus on my own job search. We have a persons of interest. He is the lastperson to see her that Friday night and his stories keep changing on when andwhere he saw her and has previously been at the house and driven Jenna's caraccording to friends. <modsnip> <I can’t put name up here> We have an email tip line aswell FindJennaNow@gmail.com. Post by brother nr. 755

 

[Bit of hope]

In the early threads indeed they were talking about Saturday12. pm...later on this time changed to 11.45 pm.....bases on new information..from this girlfriends interview I believe. stated by Subie. don't know the post nr. right now....

 

[Shiressleuth]

Just had a thought. Was the food at Wendy's the "meeting up for food" that supposedly didn't happen?
Eta. Seeing the card purchases on the timeline really helps I think.

 

[Bit of hope]

She was at her apartment for 10:45-11:30pm on the friday evening too but ive said all along i dont know how that fits in. Both were confirmed by Subie but i dont know which is right.

Excellent job again BOH. I have to keep refering to your timeline so it really really helps. I think it should be post nr 1 on the next thread so its easy to find

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In the beginning Subie sounded very sure about that but info changed. They are not sure now anymore....asked Subie a question about that earlier in the thread.....

 

[Shiressleuth]

And why would she search for an address right behind her own apartment?

I meant to say 'is there any reason why...' i didnt mean to sound so accusatory [emoji85]

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Maybe it was someone else using her phone who put that address in? I find that strange but do we know what time that search for the town home was actually done? If she was driving and someone else using her phone for instance?

 

[Bit of hope]

Subie did morning meds with a key - lights and tv were on. Vet only did afternoon meds - no J so can't get in and phones parents and Subie. Don't know when subie noticed phones were gone and chargers were left. Was that Sunday same as when the khasamiya was noticed as missing?

I'm confused again....Let me reconsider.....the statements are from saturday morning, when Subie discovered that Jenna was not in the parents house when he came for meds...., If the vet was supposed to go to the parents house p.m. than the fact is that Subie left the house again that morning, not alarmed about the fact that Jenna was not at the parents house....than the vet had to have come pm and couldn't get in the house, Jenna not there and phone dead and then called Subie and the parents. In the morning Subie got her voicemail...so her phone went dead after 9:30 am on Saturday. Subie says he didn't realize something was wrong until he was on a wedding on Saturday night going into Sunday. My conclusion from all this is that the cat didn't get medicine Saturday p.m. or Subie came to the house one more time to help the vet get in.......The parent where still in Canada on Sunday...

 

[Shiressleuth]

For the timeline J court case number is now 17SC151407 for the disorderly conduct (Fulton County) that I found from the search today. The case number in the timeline doesn't work anymore.

 

[Bit of hope]

To Stanly... asking about the date parents left for Canada. No there is no statement about that, neither is about when Jenna started cat/housesitting (must be before Thursday, I guess, having a get together at Thursday at the parents house) and also not about if she saw/spoke to her parents before they left. She could have had her own set of keys to parents house, but maybe the parents handed them to her, when they left. Also that is not clear right now.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Stanly, & Hope, the Fulton county link above doesn't work anymore. So I did a new search under Jenna's name and her case is listed as Disorderly conduct only ( a negotiated guilty plea). No record of theft or stealing at all. Maybe update the timeline?
Just want to stop any speculation she is living somewhere based on proceeds of a theft because no court record of that at all. We know the back story of the matter from Subie but the court record is the fact of the matter IMO.

If she had stolen enough money to live on, it would have been a felony and not pleaded down to a disorderly conduct charge. It's a ridiculous idea that she's hiding out on stolen funds from that job in the first place!

 

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I'm also local and have to disagree. As I mentioned earlier the area along northside is fine enough. I too have gassed up at the chevron at northside and north ave. and felt safe enough. I also think it's fine to go down Joseph e lowery or some of the larger roads with the doors locked. But if you head down the side streets of English avenue it is NOT safe. You only go there for drugs. It's like a drive thru for heroin. The trendy west midtown areas are certainly only a hop skip and a jump away...but English avenue is not the same as west midtown. I guess what I'm trying to say is that just a few streets over from an area that's fine enough...you hit one of the most dangerous in the city...and this part has not changed or gentrified at all. So it just depends on if she ventured off the main juncture or not...

I agree with you. It just depends where exactly she was in that area. On English Ave itself, sure, that's a red flag for sure. But if she was just generally in that area for 5-6 mins and we can't pinpoint an exact street, then it may not be cause for alarm. I was simply posting that to explain that that area is not necessarily bad without further info. It is a passthrough to one of the most trendy areas of Atlanta just down the street. I've gassed up at that North/Northside gas station quite a bit, didn't feel unsafe. But on a side street at 10pm... Not so much.

 

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@ Shiresleuths and Stanly; Could you ask the mod (greater than) to remove your post of the timeline with the link and stuff about the court stuff. In the most recent one I deleted almost everything about it. Other wise people will keep on copying it....thanks....

 

[subie_climber]

I'll try to answer what I can .

Parents left that Tuesday morning (15th)

Regarding English Ave stop. No specifics only Google Timeline
10pm when according to POI she came by his apartment which is not close to English ave.

She drove from English Ave to that Wendy's on Piedmont / Chesire

This of course is based on Google Timeline though

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[Stanly]

@ Shiresleuths and Stanly; Could you ask the mod (greater than) to remove your post of the timeline with the link and stuff about the court stuff. In the most recent one I deleted almost everything about it. Other wise people will keep on copying it....thanks....

Does anyone know how to do this in tapatalk? [emoji57]

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[Stanly]

I'll try to answer what I can .

Parents left that Tuesday morning (15th)

Regarding English Ave stop. No specifics only Google Timeline
10pm when according to POI she came by his apartment which is not close to English ave.

She drove from English Ave to that Wendy's on Piedmont / Chesire

This of course is based on Google Timeline though

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Hi, did anyone administer the cats medicine sat pm. Assuming it takes 2 people, is that correct? Im sure thats what i read early on.

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