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bulletgirl2002 said:Nancy Grace....is reporting now
richandfamous said:fox, cnn, ctv...where? thx
Wow, 15 minutes is quite a long time to leave toddlers alone. At their age, too bad she didn't leave the bathroom door open to hear them. I don't want to be too hard on her, she's suffering enough. It's just, when it comes to our child's safety, we can never take our eyes off of our babies for that long. The children must have also been quite fast once they got outdoors. I teach preschoolers at a local museum and when I take them outdoors, they stop to touch everything and take forever to walk up a trail. It's just a shame someone didn't discover them before they found that pond. Heaven's definitely welcoming two beautiful angels tonight.Annie said:The father was on the phone with Nancy Grace and said they had bought a lock with a chain and were going to put it on that night. The mother was in the bathroom around 15 minutes and that is a lot longer than I had thought at first. The distance is around 200-300 yards down a path with a lot of brush but it leads directly to the gate.
From what the father said, the little girl was the leader of the two, had opened both the front door and the gate before, with her brother following right behind her. He also said the little boy was on the clumsy side, tended to trip over things especially while running. Most likely scenario is that once out of the yard they ran in the direction of the pond; at the pond one of the children slipped and fell into the water. The second child jumped into the water after the first and both drowned.Annie said:The father was on the phone with Nancy Grace and said they had bought a lock with a chain and were going to put it on that night. The mother was in the bathroom around 15 minutes and that is a lot longer than I had thought at first. The distance is around 200-300 yards down a path with a lot of brush but it leads directly to the gate.
You're right on, Jeana. The father said on Nancy Grace's show tonight that the little girl had figured out how to open both the front door and the front gate and had run out of the house twice before in the last few days with her brother runnning right behind her. Both times neighbors phoned the parents, who brought the children back home. So yes - since the mother knew they'd gotten out before, she was negligent in this tragedy, IMO.Jeana (DP) said:You said "accidents happen." I asked if you were talking about life in general or this case specifically.
As I said before, if this was the first day that she realized that the children were able to unlock the door and get out of the house alone, then yes, accidents happen. However, if she already KNEW from previous experience that they could unlock the door and get out of the house, then NO, its not an accident, its neligence.
Julie said:If the mother ran out right after she 'heard something' she would've seen the kids if they had ran out alone. There is no way they could've gotten out of the yard that fast. jmho.
This is odd ... brings up some questions:LovelyPigeon said:He said Nicole figured out how to unlock the front door and gate and left with Jonah at around 4 p.m. Saturday. A neighbor returned the children about 30 minutes later.
She was very curious ... I've imagined her running ahead of her brother toward that pond. I don't care what the neighbor says about the two of them being sick of each other, if she fell in, her brother probably tried to help her.chicoliving said:I gotta smile at the thought of the younger of the two being the "ring leader"....no disrespect meant it just caught my eye and had me thinking back to childhood.