George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin General discussion #5
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Nobody can explain how he did this to himself when people were out as soon as the shot rang out. Unless you believe it happened before he even approached TM, which to me isn't very realistic.
Very shortly after the shot, in fact within seconds, there were people out there with flashlights - at least two witnesses within seconds.
Do you think he was slamming his own head on the concrete at that time, with the witnesses standing out there?
It hasn't been proven that TM was scared though, even from RJ.
In terms of science added thrust from someone grabbing your head is going to be more than falling off a bike.
But do you see, that doesn't really matter in this defense?
Regardless of who was being a jerk, once GZ feared for his life he was within his rights to shoot Trayvon?
Personally, I don't think GZ started it, I think Trayvon started the physical altercation.
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I muse that a certain judge in AZ probably would have just taken a break. Just kidding. lol
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When the defense has their witness testify that the way the bullet impacted TM's chest and his clothing proves that he was on top maybe then people will believe. His clothing had to be hanging forward off of his body when shot and I believe they will prove this. jmo
Based on what? Thin air? There is not a single witness that could claim Zimmerman damaged his own head.
I don't think state is allowed to just make stories up. Do you?
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IMO, running away means you are scared in it's basic meaning.
Why else run if you aren't scared?
No, sacrablue, that's not true. The force of your head with the weight of your body flying through the air is probably MORE force than someone on top of you, picking your head up a few inches and slamming it.
Flying over the handlebars onto your head is MORE force.
And I've seen people walk away from that, dazed and bleeding.
It was dark. He was seen with one hand on his head. A flashlight is not going to illuminate the entire crime scene.
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I don't understand why they keep going over the same testimony over and over and over. What does this accomplish?
I don't just mean with this witness, but all of them.
I don't just mean with this witness, but all of them.
The witnesses all say the man got up after the shot.
No one says the man lay back down onto the concrete once he got up.
Maybe to go hid somewhere and see if you can spot the guy trying to keep an eye on you so you can confront him and attack him.
JMO
His phone conversion, even if it's 100% accurate (which I don't think it is IMO) doesn't give all this indication. He started talking about the all star game. He never said 'I'm scared', never described having heavy breathing, nervousness, etc.
I'm just going off what the evidence shows at this point.
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Selma Mora, from yesterday, who identified GZ was the person on top in the struggle. She identified his jacket as red and black. She also stated she saw the police as biased in favor of George Zimmerman. This touchpad on Husband's puter is almost impossible to C&P. Still I googled for link using words Selma Mora, red and black jacket, GZ trial..and ABC News had the detailed report. Hope this helps.
A flashlight will tell that the man is upright, or he has gone to some concrete sidewalk and is bashing his head.
No witness saw that, in fact, all witnesses say he was upright after the shooting. Then, cops were there and witnesses were there and EMT was there, etc.
He had no time to bash his own head.
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