Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #6

[minazoe]

Very good point about why he might prefer to drive than fly to Vegas!

Perhaps he met a SW in LV and offered her a ride cross-country. I also wonder that about Peaches, found on LI. Perhaps he drove her and the child to NY because she needed a lift. idk

I've made plenty of cross-country road trips and one benefit is that you can bring stuff along that you can't on a plane.

Something always strikes me when I travel by road in USA: we have so much land! Who knows what he was capable of doing on a road trip, if he indeed drive.

jmo

This popped up with grouping of 4 victims including Lindsay Marie..with another suspect mentioned..how weird is it that there are 4 victims in this grouping..must have been dismissed because they are talking about Rex now..

Man killed by sex worker could be serial killer

Police believe a man killed last week by a West Virginia sex worker could be linked to the disappearances or deaths of four prostitutes in the Las Vegas area a decade ago — and maybe a half-dozen more women in Chillicothe, Ohio.

www.ksdk.com

 

[iamshadow21]

BBM

This is the part that was the most curious to me. How most of the remains and evidence had deteriorated over the years, but the paper towels remained intact. What was different about this victim found with that precise paper towel? Or was it victims?

Well, we think of them being out there for absolutely ages, but Amber had been out there only three months, Megan, six. And we know decedents are found with paper items all the time, you just have to visit the Unidentified forums. Photographs, bus tickets, receipts, notes of various kinds, saint cards, business cards, tissues, price tags, playing cards, cigarette cartons with tax stamps that are legible... the list goes on, and some of those Does were found in equally inhospitable environments after similar periods of decomposition and exposure. They found readable paper artifacts with the Titanic, and in sand dunes in Egypt from the time of the Pharaohs. When we unstuck the top half of a window in a 150 year old house we were living in, we found newspaper that was probably from the 1950s in the track, put there to keep out the draughts and rain if the weather was hitting that side of the house when the top half of the window was nailed shut. It'd been there for at least sixty years, and we could still read the ads on it in the old money from before decimalisation (pre1966 Australia was pounds shillings and pence, like England). Paper is a lot more durable than we think.

MOO

EDIT: I will also add that paper towel is the one paper item I can think of that is specifically designed to absorb a lot of moisture and NOT fall apart. The whole point of it is that it keeps its structural integrity. So it may have been uniquely suited to stand up to decomp and weather on the very edge of the Atlantic without completely disintegrating.

 

[Pinkizzy]

What you said is true. Wife could be busy, too. Raising two children, one of them disabled, organizing things for them takes time. IMHO they were living in different worlds, and even if something was off in his, she’d not notice. I imagine him using the basement solely for his needs and collections.


Simply, if he explained “the cost of business class to Las Vegas is expensive, and the economy seats are too small for a person my height, it would raise no questions.

His size limits his ability to fly, doesn't it? Driving all that way makes sense now.

 

[Ruminations]

This is weird:

Rex's possible victim, if he was in Las Vegas at the right time and traveled by car, had two vehicles. She had both a car, parked at a casino/hotel, and a rental car that was inexplicably abandoned, not at her home, either.

if She lived with and only with her boyfriend, how could both cars be away? (I don't know her living arrangements; articles imply she lived with her bf. None mentioned interviews with housemates. But its still speculation.)

I could see an escort renting a car to thwart stalkers. By the week it doesn't necessarily add a lot to overhead, but that is also just a guess. Anybody who has done the work know why a car would be rented?

Since her legs were found far from NV and NY, I would think Rex could be eliminated as a suspect or become more viable as a suspect fairly quickly. I hope Rex uses Amex for gas. I hope he deducted the expenses, so he kept receipt.

MOO

 

[Lyanna]

Yes. That sure is a curious one.

Would have thought the paper towel itself would have disintegrated if found with one of the ladies? perhaps packaging was found with one of them?

Moo

 

[Cjrbr]

Do we know if RH was ever known to go hunting? Were any of his guns registered? Had he ever had a hunting permit? How many hunting knives were found? Was he ever know to eat wild game or fowl? We know he is a collector, (forgive me if I go off topic real quick, I just had a flashback of Denzel in The Bone Collector) because of the guns. What else did he collect? Knives? Dolls? Socks? Panties? Jewelry? Hair?

I’m not in the States and so am entirely unfamiliar with the locations being discussed but have been following this case and just googled Atlantic City to find out more about the area. This result appeared and stood out to me given how much discussion I have read on multiple platforms about hunting licences/‘duck hunting’ etc.

 

[iamshadow21]

His size limits his ability to fly, doesn't it? Driving all that way makes sense now.

Literally one of my first thoughts when I saw that picture of him a head taller than the LE surrounding him, was, "Well, he's got a very good excuse for getting out of going on holiday with his wife, but also for taking long road trips for work or pleasure without raising suspicion." If you're very tall, have a high body mass, or just about any other physical difference, flying is an absolute nightmare.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

Maybe he took a picture and then asked someone to paint it.

I'm trying to find out if she painted.

Lindsay was only 21. A self-portait of a bruised face would be age-appropriate. Especially in teen years. I dont want to wildly derail this thread until evidence comes in making Rex a more likely suspect. But I can see a teenager painting herself processing how "ugly" she is after an accident, or processing a violent relationship. And, I could see Rex Hueurman taking a liking to the painting.

MOO

 

[Pinkizzy]

Who's the suspect? The link doesn't open for me

This popped up with grouping of 4 victims including Lindsay Marie..with another suspect mentioned..how weird is it that there are 4 victims in this grouping..must have been dismissed because they are talking about Rex now..

Man killed by sex worker could be serial killer

Police believe a man killed last week by a West Virginia sex worker could be linked to the disappearances or deaths of four prostitutes in the Las Vegas area a decade ago — and maybe a half-dozen more women in Chillicothe, Ohio.

www.ksdk.com

 

[Inthedetails]

Literally one of my first thoughts when I saw that picture of him a head taller than the LE surrounding him, was, "Well, he's got a very good excuse for getting out of going on holiday with his wife, but also for taking long road trips for work or pleasure without raising suspicion." If you're very tall, have a high body mass, or just about any other physical difference, flying is an absolute nightmare.

MOO

I'm assuming he flew to Iceland. Or did he take a cruise?

But I totally agree that driving might be more comfortable than flying given his size. Also gives time for his activities, unfortunately. I do hope LE can trace his movements.

jmo

 

[ArianeEmory]

Randomly: I put off listening to older podcast episodes on this case because I thought it might be annoying if they spent a lot of time going down wrong paths. But after listening to post-arrest episodes of LISK: The Long Island Serial Killer, I was impressed enough with their production and research quality that I finally started from the beginning. This podcast is a great resource and really covers many bases. It breaks down things like Shannan’s 911 call.

And the real reason I posted is this: I’m listening to some “profiling” episodes they did in Aug 2021, and a lot of the stuff is scarily accurate to RH. (That said, I can’t remember the date/year that LE got onto RH.)

I am not affiliated with or promoting the podcast … not including a link because I’m not sure of the podcast linking rules.

 

[Friday13]

Randomly: I put off listening to older podcast episodes on this case because I thought it might be annoying if they spent a lot of time going down wrong paths. But after listening to post-arrest episodes of LISK: The Long Island Serial Killer, I was impressed enough with their production and research quality that I finally started from the beginning. This podcast is a great resource and really covers many bases. It breaks down things like Shannan’s 911 call.

And the real reason I posted is this: I’m listening to some “profiling” episodes they did in Aug 2021, and a lot of the stuff is scarily accurate to RH. (That said, I can’t remember the date/year that LE got onto RH.)

I am not affiliated with or promoting the podcast … not including a link because I’m not sure of the podcast linking rules.

Their season 3, episodes 2&3 were sooooo intriguing, I posted my recommendation here about them a few days ago. Did you get the chance to listen to those 2? Wow….opens up a slew of new questions and possibilities, IMHO

 

[NyxNY]

Who's the suspect? The link doesn't open for me

First a shout out to the SW...You go girl!

To answer your question, which has most likely been answered (but I had to give that shout out) is Neal Falls, 45, most recently of Springfield, Oregon.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I really feel for Asa and her family. Hearing that the young man was photographed crying, that breaks my heart. His life has been ripped apart and he must be so confused. If he has Autism or some such disorder this may be so difficult to understand. I refuse to believe they know anything about this.

Thank goodness for the therapy dog.

 

[LadyL]

Suffolk County DA says DNA evidence found in Gilgo Beach murders is 'very powerful'

Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney said authorities have gathered a lot of evidence after a two-week-long search at the home of Rex Heuermann, the suspect in the Gilgo Beach murders. Tierney also said dogs located a number of electronic devices at the residence.

www.nbcnews.com

Suffolk County District Attorney Ray Tierney said authorities have gathered a lot of evidence after a two-week-long search at the home of Rex Heuermann, the suspect in the Gilgo Beach murders. Tierney also said dogs located a number of electronic devices at the residence.

interesting that they needed dogs to sniff out electronics

 

[DS2021]

They need to leave that whole family alone.

 

[TKG]

Not to take the attention away from the Gilgo Four and other victims, but I think we have to consider the very real possibility there are additional victims, post 2010. I think it's highly unlikely the defendant completely stopped killing after the bodies were discovered. Briefly sure, maybe even for years. But permanently? I don't think so.

IIRC, one of the reasons LE decided to move in and make the arrest now was because they considered the defendant to be a danger to the community. To me, that says they have evidence suggesting he may become active again. He was caught with another burner phone on hand after all.

If he did continue killing, he may have changed his entire MO and possibly established another dumping site.

100% agree, there are myriad more victims IMO. I do know that there was a police report filed by a victim that felt harassed by him at Brady Park just before his arrest. MOO this set the sirens in motion.

 

[TKG]

Agreed. My heart goes out to them. I saw a video of those vultures outside the house yelling at them for a comment. It made and makes me so angry. They had nothing to do with any of this and the police even said by all accounts that the family was shocked and embarrassed and horrified. Those poor people are just trying to pick up the pieces and I’m sure are also trying to wrap their heads around everything that’s happened. They don’t need to have random people outside their house gawking and shouting at them for a comment.

YES!! Exactly. In addition, I'm sure they feel tremendous guilt and shame for not seeing anything that would suggest such sadistic behavior. IMO she may have thought there was infidelity but who would ever go to SK? We all want to believe in our loved ones. Right or wrong, they get the benefit of the doubt.

ITA, as I wrote earlier, I felt ashamed for seeing her crying while petting the family dog. Terribly sad...

 

[Elley Mae]

interesting that they needed dogs to sniff out electronics

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[NyxNY]

Would have thought the paper towel itself would have disintegrated if found with one of the ladies? perhaps packaging was found with one of them?

Moo

I originally thought the same, but iamshadow21 had a great explanation a few posts up from yours. Check it out.