RH was around 30 yrs old
JB around 28
Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 6 murders, July 2023 #12
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JB around 28
He's been quiet in the news media lately, as the situation plays out. There's not much he can do about Shannan's case right now because Suffolk Co is so busy with the cases linked to Rex H.
He's still being interviewed on podcasts, etc. because he's so knowledgeable about all of these investigations. He's the only advocate attorney who has worked these cases since the beginning, with the exception of the attorney who used to work for him, but switched and started to represent Rex H's children.
JMO, these cases against Rex are where they are today thanks to John Ray's investigations and advocacy.
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RH's victim, with the case similarities was sandwiched between JB's victims. I definitely should have explained better! Forgive me.
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Yes. Just went back to try to include that in my post, but time had elapsed.
Police chief partied with Gilgo 'serial killer at crack-fueled motel bash'
DISGRACED ex-Long Island police chief James Burke once partied with alleged Gilgo Beach killer Rex Heuermann decades ago at a drug-fuelled motel gathering, a woman has claimed in a new sworn affida…
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Tangredi's daughter was, allegedly, best friends with Melissa Barthelemy.
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Exactly, it could have been a conversation-starter -- in a direction he particularly liked to go.
As for it being found the second time - on the kitchen table, was it ? -perhaps LE returned it after the first search, it was pulled from a box, put on the table and they never got around to moving it again.
True.
Many of the sex workers who went to that part of LI knew who JB was. Some of them knew he was corrupt, along with local drug users. Tangredi herself probably didn't know JB, he wasn't chief of Suffolk County PD back then.
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Oh, this is something recent. I thought you were referring to the woman who spoke about Burke long ago.Yes. Just went back to try to include that in my post, but time had elapsed.
Police chief partied with Gilgo 'serial killer at crack-fueled motel bash'
DISGRACED ex-Long Island police chief James Burke once partied with alleged Gilgo Beach killer Rex Heuermann decades ago at a drug-fuelled motel gathering, a woman has claimed in a new sworn affida…
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I admire JR for his sincere caring about the victims and their families along with his long-standing perserverness and hopefully the Karen Vergata case/ investigation had a new light thrown on it from his work.
I want to know where Asa was on/around Feb 14th,1996 when Karen disappeared and if she and RH got married in April 1996 before or after Karen's partial remains were found on April 20,1996.
Spouses can not be compelled to testify against each other.
Asa was pregnant in Feb.1996 and yet to be married to RH.
We know nothing about when /where /how AE met RH.
Macedonio keeps repeating prosecutors that AE was away or not in the jurisdiction when each murder was said to have taken place as if this excuses her from not having a "Come to Jesus "
and connecting the dots or at the very minimum realize that the odds are against her belief that he's "not capable of these heinous acts"?
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AE couldn't have made a worse choice in the attorney she hired .
Macedonio was part of the toxic corrupt Suffolk County web, the same politicians that stymied finding the LISK while protecting their own in Suffolk County across the board.
Macedonio also has a conflict of interest by financially benefiting by the deal he arranged for Asa and the Peacock Documentary.
"Newsday"
The Curious Case of Robert Macedonio
In December 2008, veteran criminal defense attorney Robert Macedonio appeared in a Suffolk County courtroom, this time as a defendant. “It’s embarrassing for me to be standing here,” Macedonio told…matthewdoig.com
And, to add (it's been mentioned before) the attorney representing the adult children was once John Ray's law partner. Everyone seems to be connected to someone, some how... and I'm not sure it's all for the better.
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Rex Heuermann's alleged murder profile mirrors Green River killer: expert
The 60-year-old New York architect is being compared to the second-most prolific serial killer in America - Green River Killer.
www.newsweek.com
"Heuermann may seem unique and interesting but there have been many before him who have written blueprints for their crimes and enacted those plans," Enzo Yaksic, who runs the Atypical Homicide Research Group, told Newsweek. "Sexual serial murderers are thankfully dwindling in number as the modern-day serial murderer is much different than their Golden Age (1970-2000) counterparts, as they are motivated by anger and use firearms to kill."
"I'm wondering if and why murder became a problem-solving tool for him," Dr. Robert Schug, a forensic psychologist and criminology professor, told Newsweek. "That's generally what is happening with the repeat murderers. The homicidal behavior is solving some function in their lives."
Rex Heuermann, the man already suspected in the deaths of four women found near Long Island’s Gilgo Beach, was charged in the murders of two more women Thursday during his latest court appearance. John Ray, attorney for the family of Jessica Taylor, one of the victims, discusses how the new evidence law enforcement found highlights what he says is a "demonic" episode Heuermann went through.'
Agree, the timing of Karen Vergata's case is very interesting, if RH is responsible for her death. That close to RH and Asa's wedding makes it unlikely, but not impossible that AH was out of town. It's also possible she had her own apartment and not yet living with Rex.
I doubt Asa will ever testify against her husband. If he's ever connected to Karen's case, it will have to be with additional evidence.
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I thought VH was born in 1998. Is that not correct ?
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apnews.com
Victoria Heuermann, the suspect’s daughter, returned to the neighborhood Wednesday with her mother’s lawyer in order to collect her parked car.
The 27-year-old was the only member of the family at the house when law enforcement officials executed a search warrant early Monday morning. Her mother and brother have been vacationing in South Carolina, the family’s lawyers have said.
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Police search Gilgo Beach serial killing suspect's home on Long Island for 5th straight day
Investigators in the New York City suburbs continue to scour the home of a Manhattan architect charged in a string of slayings known as the Gilgo Beach killings.
apnews.com
Victoria Heuermann, the suspect’s daughter, returned to the neighborhood Wednesday with her mother’s lawyer in order to collect her parked car.
The 27-year-old was the only member of the family at the house when law enforcement officials executed a search warrant early Monday morning. Her mother and brother have been vacationing in South Carolina, the family’s lawyers have said.
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I’ll bet Macedonia sales pitch to AE was something like: Mr Ray, at some point, will be filing a civil suit for millions in damages like the one he has filed against Dr Hackett (Shannan Gilbert). Remember, it’s much easier to win (damages) in civil court and you could become homeless, broke and uninsured for medical.
I know how Ray works, let’s get you and your kids protected & get that divorce asap, and I have some ideas that will make you some money so you can pay my bills…
It’s just lawyers … being lawyers.
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The date is an important date too, most pregnant girlfriends would remember if their finance forgot Valentine's Day or were "too busy" with work or out of town on business.
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In NewsNation video done after RH's latest charges Ray says he represents Gilbert and a few of RH's victims who survived.
I thought VH was born in 1998. Is that not correct ?
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Police search Gilgo Beach serial killing suspect's home on Long Island for 5th straight day
Investigators in the New York City suburbs continue to scour the home of a Manhattan architect charged in a string of slayings known as the Gilgo Beach killings.
Victoria Heuermann, the suspect’s daughter, returned to the neighborhood Wednesday with her mother’s lawyer in order to collect her parked car.
The 27-year-old was the only member of the family at the house when law enforcement officials executed a search warrant early Monday morning. Her mother and brother have been vacationing in South Carolina, the family’s lawyers have said.
IDK. My earlier reference was to their marriage date and/or her moving in to Rex's.
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John Ray represents family of Shannan Gilbert. But it's common to see it noted in the media that he's representing some of the victims' families, or "the victims" as a whole group.
Gilgo Beach Murders: Attorney challenges prosecutor's conclusions, raises doubts on suspected killer's alibi
Gilgo Beach victims’ attorney discusses new evidence
Heuermann is scheduled to appear in court Feb. 6 having pleaded not guilty to the charges.
www.newsnationnow.com
Also representing Nikkie Brass/source: "Brass is represented by John Ray, the attorney for Gilgo victims, including escort Shannan Gilbert. Brass claims Heuermann spoke about her, too."
Former escort says Rex Heuermann asked her about Gilgo Beach murders on date in 2015
Nikkie Brass says Heuermann asked her if she liked true crime, then asked if she knew about the Gilgo Beach murders.
www.cbsnews.com
Gloria Allred represents some of the victims: "Gloria Allred, a victims’ rights attorney representing Barthelemy, Brainard-Barnes and Waterman family members, said it is 'long overdue to provide justice for vulnerable women who are missing and murdered.'
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Apparently, Asa has issues with spelling as well. "awsome" , "turky", etc. etc.
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John Ray represents family of Shannan Gilbert. But it's common to see it noted in the media that he's representing some of the victims' families, or "the victims" as a whole group.
Gilgo Beach Murders: Attorney challenges prosecutor's conclusions, raises doubts on suspected killer's alibi
Gilgo Beach victims’ attorney discusses new evidence
Heuermann is scheduled to appear in court Feb. 6 having pleaded not guilty to the charges.
Also representing Nikkie Brass/source: "Brass is represented by John Ray, the attorney for Gilgo victims, including escort Shannan Gilbert. Brass claims Heuermann spoke about her, too."
Former escort says Rex Heuermann asked her about Gilgo Beach murders on date in 2015
Nikkie Brass says Heuermann asked her if she liked true crime, then asked if she knew about the Gilgo Beach murders.
Gloria Allred represents some of the victims: "Gloria Allred, a victims’ rights attorney representing Barthelemy, Brainard-Barnes and Waterman family members, said it is 'long overdue to provide justice for vulnerable women who are missing and murdered.'
Exactly. And the reason I asked is because if he doesn't represent the families of any of the victims for which RH is charged, than these signed affidavits have zero legal value, because John Ray can't present them during the trial.
At least, that's my understanding of how the legal process works.
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