Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #6

[pamelado2]

If she did not make it home after jogging, doesn’t it seem strange that she would send an early goodnight Snap?

Agreed, that's the part I don't understand.

It was NOT a goodnight Snap - DJ can't remember what it said, just knows he opened it at 10pm

 

[nch14]

Look, I am going by what LE has said. A few threads ago the discussion was totally derailed by all the blather about there being a dramatic increase in missing Iowans, which, if you would read all of the link I posted, LE has said is not true. Our local media had to run a separate story re-assuring people it isn't true.

What does that have to do with me suggesting that those 3 cases could be connected? And thanks for the links, but I’m pretty familiar with everything going on local.

 

[Marky2Guns]

Do to a lot of cases where the police pick up the perp really quick and arrest him as soon as they are suspicious of the crime often ends up with a hinderance in the prosecution because they pick up the perp so fast. I would be willing to bet they already know everything but they are building the airtight evidence case on the person to have the suspect in an airtight case to make it a quick prosecution.

 

[pamelado2]

I can imagine that after a nice run and on a hot day, one wouldn't be excited to eat brats. Seems like heavy fall/winter food to me. Although I know people grill them at barbecues.

Here? They've been searching water ways for Mollie?

Brats are like hot dogs, I don't know if I've ever had them in winter cause they're best grilled. Anyway, if you'd eat a hot dog or burger after a run, you'd eat a brat.

A linked article talked about LE using kayaks to search for Mollie.

 

[Cardinal47]

Do to a lot of cases where the police pick up the perp really quick and arrest him as soon as they are suspicious of the crime often ends up with a hinderance in the prosecution because they pick up the perp so fast. I would be willing to bet they already know everything but they are building the airtight evidence case on the person to have the suspect in an airtight case to make it a quick prosecution.

From your lips to God's ears! I disagree and think they have nothing but I surely like your thoughts better than mine!

 

[PommyMommy]

Community may hold clue to find missing Iowa student, father says

Speaking in an interview with “Good Morning America,” Rob Tibbetts said he believes the public may hold the key to finding his daughter, Mollie Tibbetts, who disappeared on July 18 after going out for an evening jog.

“What we need is for people to tell their friends and neighbors that if they saw anything that seemed even remotely out of the ordinary to call the authorities and they will run that down,” Tibbetts said. “The authorities have told us again and again and again that all the similar cases like this are always solved by some tip.”

 

[Marky2Guns]

From your lips to God's ears! I disagree and think they have nothing but I surely like your thoughts better than mine!

If they have a perp in mind they may very well be watching him. Often times killers return to the scene of the crime or sight where they disposed of evidence/a body to see their work. If they have a perp they may be watching him to see if he leads them to where he committed his crime or buried his evidence.

 

[Inthedetails]

Community may hold clue to find missing Iowa student, father says

Speaking in an interview with “Good Morning America,” Rob Tibbetts said he believes the public may hold the key to finding his daughter, Mollie Tibbetts, who disappeared on July 18 after going out for an evening jog.

“What we need is for people to tell their friends and neighbors that if they saw anything that seemed even remotely out of the ordinary to call the authorities and they will run that down,” Tibbetts said. “The authorities have told us again and again and again that all the similar cases like this are always solved by some tip.”

IMO, cases are often solved by a tip....but also by luck. Sometimes it takes a person finding a body - a hunter or farmer in the field, for example. Once the body is found, sometimes there is evidence to find the perp.

I do hope someone with a tip will call it in. This case needs to be solved.

jmo

 

[NervousNellie]

Community may hold clue to find missing Iowa student, father says

Speaking in an interview with “Good Morning America,” Rob Tibbetts said he believes the public may hold the key to finding his daughter, Mollie Tibbetts, who disappeared on July 18 after going out for an evening jog.

“What we need is for people to tell their friends and neighbors that if they saw anything that seemed even remotely out of the ordinary to call the authorities and they will run that down,” Tibbetts said. “The authorities have told us again and again and again that all the similar cases like this are always solved by some tip.”

Well, that does not sound promising.

 

[PommyMommy]

New evidence in search for missing Iowa college student

Mollie's aunt speaks in the video.

Police say Mollie Tibbetts vanished 12 days ago while on her usual run. Her family believes there is now evidence indicating she finished her jog.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

BROOKLYN, Iowa (KMTV) - The older brother of 20-year-old Mollie Tibbettssays investigators told him evidence shows she was doing homework on her computer last Wednesday evening.
More details emerge in Mollie Tibbetts disappearance

 

[JudgeJudi]

Who better to pick you up for work than a co-worker? Who would you readily let in the door, into a car with to go to work, or take you to your mom's to grab your shirt? Who may already have your shirt in their car from a previous ride and brought it over? Who also knows where you are, and who is or is not there....

I'm in the minority here, but don't you think it would be a little obvious to a few people in a small town like Brooklyn. A photo for instance, taken in full view of others and placed on the internet by the media would hardly remain a secret from LE. The person would immediately become a POI and a search warrant issued for his phone and other digital devices. If it seems obvious to some people here, why would LE not think the same. They would be checking if he lived alone and establishing whether he has a verifiable alibi for any particular timeframe the FBI are interested in.

These days young people live on their phones, and unless the co-worker had very specialised skills or used encryption, there's no way he could erase everything from his phone. Of course if he "lost" it that night, well that would be a pretty amazing coincidence.

Further, if family and LE truly believe that there's a chance Mollie is alive and a co-worker is hiding her somewhere, it's a very simple matter to put a tracking device on his car.

Of course it's possible, but is it probable? I'm not so sure.

 

[distracted]

Well, that does not sound promising.

Not necessarily. LE doesn't share everything with the family. I've followed cases where the family was left completely in the dark until the investigation reached a conclusion so I wouldn't read too much into that statement.

That said, he is right about the public being a valuable resource, especially in such a small town where everyone knows each another. I think he's making a plea to the community to report if someone starts to behave differently - whether it's his/her appearance, routine or general disposition. He is also pleading with the communities nearby. There's a good chance that this person is local or lives nearby.

 

[JC40]

I believe that LE have someone in mind (sits on hands) for the simple reason that there has been no direct appeal. (that i'm aware of) Now, this maybe due to authorities not wanting them to plead with whomever has her, (and don't want to provoke) if at all. Or plead with Mollie to come home, that is, if something nefarious hasn't happened. If this is the case, then wouldn't LE not put a stop on all family members speaking out?

Just a thought.

 

[MntnHiker]

If she did in fact vanish on her run, I think that makes the most sense. The Snapchat doesn't bother me in this theory. Like others have stated, no one ever said it was in fact a "good night" snap. She could have sent it around 730, texted with her mom about dinner, then headed out for her run. Additionally, even if you want to think of it as a good night snap, some people who get up super early for work head to bed really early. Perhaps her bf had made it a habit in the past to turn in by 830 or 9 so she knew he wouldn't be up after she got back from her run and dinner at her mom's.

I agree with the timeline posted above that she got dropped off, tended to the dogs, did HW, snapped, texted her mom, and then left around 730. This jives with what that neighbor said he saw. Now he said she was walking, but she may have been warming up before starting her run full out at that time. Her intention was to run, end up at Mom's, eat, then take the car home, but she never made it to her mom's house.

I do think from LE has said about having FitBit data and her not making it home that they have a pretty darn good idea about where the run stopped/where she was taken or something happened. And I think they may have an idea of a suspect and are watching that person, hence the lack of info to the public.

 

[distracted]

New evidence in search for missing Iowa college student

Mollie's aunt speaks in the video.

Police say Mollie Tibbetts vanished 12 days ago while on her usual run. Her family believes there is now evidence indicating she finished her jog.

And both can't be right. If I remember correctly, LE did not release the time when Mollie was doing homework because it was pertinent to the investigation. I hope we get some clarification on this soon because it's the whole case. I tend to believe LE, however, considering their search of the pig farm.

 

[suzyjackson]

A key piece of the jigsaw for me is the phone pings.

LE must by now have a full set of pings for the Wed/Thursday, so, why do they not appear able to identify where she was.

I'm going to assume that Mollie had her phone on her run as most runners take their phones with them (I know this from my own experience and from an online runing community I belong to)> from that, assuming the battery didn't go flat on the run, they know where and when she went which can be matched up with any CCTV along the route.

Thus they know if she made it home, again an assumption but I'm going to believe the family when they say that she did and she was on her computer at home. We know the phone is missing so either Mollie took it whereever she went and pings will tell us where or it was disposed of somehow by Mollie or persons unknown but still LE would know when it last pinged a tower.

I just can't understand why this information isn't being made public and I also don't understand why there doesn't seem to be much LE/FBI activity in actively searching the place of the last ping. We know the hog farm searches were from tips not phone activity.

Locals - have you seen or heard of searches?

I'm totally baffled by the apparent lack of use of technological clues. This is super frustrating when it seems like much more could be being done to find Mollie

 

[Momma2cam]

For me the answer would depend on two things. One, is the employer paying for it? Two, what time does work begin the next day?

I’m guessing sun-up is a time around 6:15. They might start at 6:00 to beat the heat meaning a 5:00 a more departure from home. If the boss was paying I’d stay in a hotel.

Many people commute 50+ miles a day. I commute 80 each way. I don't necessarily see that as unusual.

 

[MntnHiker]

I also think of a show I frequently watch on ID Discovery called See No Evil; it's about crimes that are solved in large part due to CCTV or surveillance cam footage. I am hopeful something like that is taking place here. Even with some footage, on the show it often takes LE several days to get access to and watch all the footage, then a follow-up on leads, etc. In some cases, it did take weeks.

Even though it's a small town, I would bet at least some businesses and some private homes have cameras. If this is the case, they could probably pick her up on her run on different cameras and then also see where she SHOULD be running next but does not show up on said camera. At least I hope they have some footage like this that could help as well as FitBit/phone pings.

 

[Momma2cam]

I'm wondering if LE is intentionally leaking confusing/contradictory statements so the suspect if they have one, isn't aware how close they are?

This seems most plausible to me. I don't see this as lying or misleading the public deceitfully nor that it makes them any less professional but rather a common investigative tactic.