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agree, I keep remembering back to my college days, and dorm life and cannot imagine this happening at my campus.So sad, these young people had their whole lives ahead of them.
Sad scene, lots of blood. All four ruled homicide, tox reports will probably not be important to COD. This Coroner doesn't do the autopsies. Wouldn't answer if the victims were in close proximity or in separate rooms.Raw | Latah County Coroner says all four students killed near University of Idaho were victims -- KREM 2 News
11/16/22
One point to add.... May have threatened with a knife previously.As a quick exercise, who would have combative training using edged weapons?
Current / former military, including reserves? All branches or just Marines and Army Infantry, MP's, any SOCOM community?
Law Enforcement, possibly security guards with some prior experience?
Anyone trained in martial arts? Which ones?
Anyone familiar with dispatching larger animals?
Any athlete like a wrestler, or boxer used to physical conflict? Less so a football player like a lineman or defensive back, used to taking people down?
Where I'm sort of going with this is could this be the work of a relative or complete novice (to using knives in anger or work) or would it more likely be someone with prior training. If the latter, would it necessarily be offensive training or does defensive training against knives teach them what they would need to know?
Or could it be someone hopped up on (pick a drug?) that was purely driven by some kind of rage? (Jealousy? Rebuffed? Disrespected somehow? Roid rage?)
I can't see some random burglar trying open doors and then suddenly deciding to commit mass murder. The initial "crime of passion" description by authorities makes sense, even if they tempered it later. Four people seems to go beyond, unless two or three were just at the wrong place / wrong time.
Ethan seemed like a relatively larger guy (6 footish from pics? Just a guess since he was so much taller than his gf, and appeared to be in good physical shape. He was 20, wasn't he? Attacker may have had surprise, but still size is hard to overcome. Maybe attacker was at least medium height male? And experienced enough with knives to take down a healthy 20 y/o male without causing a major commotion? Ethan was the one seen through the sliding glass door, wasn't the? So he wasn't dispatched in his sleep?
All MOO, just going over some things I was thinking about overnight. This case is so sad, 4 nice kids with their lives ahead of them. Sorry if this was a bit of a ramble, need morning coffee.
My pure speculation is that the dog was at her parents house. Per all the articles posted - Kaylee was just back for the weekend to show off her new car - she was graduating and moving onI’ve also been wondering about Murphy. He would have barked if he was alive during the attacks. I really hope he is okay.
would imagine, it could provide time of death, what order they were murdered in and even the exact edge of the knife that killed, if there were defensive wounds if they were killed in their sleep or ? Not sure how much they would release, as they are keeping it private, hopefully to find the perp.how long after an autopsy is done are the results released to the public usually? will the autopsy offer us any insight?
I would think this too, but in an interview kaylees sister said they got home and let the dog out which leads me to believe murphy was thereMy pure speculation is that the dog was at her parents house. Per all the articles posted - Kaylee was just back for the weekend to show off her new car - she was graduating and moving on
Do you have a link?They’re college kids. It’s possible the two roommates at home were in the basement, a garage, or even a laundry room away from where the murderer thought to look.
I live about an hour and a half from the campus. The local news is reporting police want to talk to anyone who was seen in a security video of the girls downtown. A local news reporter indicated a person of interest os seen near the girls in the video but hanging back, and appears to follow them when they leave.
There was also a campus security alert (called a “vandal alert”) about someone making threats with a knife. That person was subsequently identified.
I hope and pray the the ME was able to obtain the DNA of the attacker from under the fingernail of one or more of the victims.Murder investigation underway after 4 University of Idaho students found dead in a home near campus
The Spokane County Medical Examiner has completed the autopsies on the four students. The Latah County Coroner will be the one to make the official announcement.www.krem.com
7:57 PM PST November 16, 2022
When police arrived on scene for a wellness check, officers found four victims and other people who were not hurt. Officers say there were no signs of forced entry into the residence. When police arrived, the door was still open.
Police are still saying that this was an isolated, targeted attack. The suspect is still on the loose. They also can't say there's no threat to the community. There was no attempt at robbery. Officers did not reveal who the 911 caller was.
Moscow Police don't know an accurate timeline of where the victims were before their deaths. The location of the weapon at this time is unknown.
Anyone with information is asked to contact Moscow Police at 208-883-7054.
The University of Idaho said a vigil for the students, which was scheduled for Wednesday night, was rescheduled for Nov. 30.
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BREAKING: I just confirmed the Spokane Co. Medical Examiner has completed the autopsies on the 4 UI students. She just sent the report and recommendations to the Latah Co. Coroner 30min ago. Latah Co. will be the one to make the official ruling.
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7:46 PM · Nov 16, 2022 from Pullman, WA
Idaho police search for Ka-Bar knife in murders of four university students
All four victims were killed with an ‘edged weapon such as a knife’ – with the murder weapon nowhere to be found and the killer still at large four days on from the brutal crimewww.independent.co.uk
You are correct, if you turn up the volume really high you can hear her saying it and pointing at one of the guys behind themApprox 19:25 in this video, girl in black jacket (whose jacket is that?) points and says "stop being a weirdo."
So so creepy.
I think those pictures look totally different. Top photo looks like water drips with high iron content, bottom photo looks like thicker blood consistency IMOYay -- a voice of reason!!
IMO, the isolated streaks down the excavated, above-grade masonry foundation wall are most likely from iron ore and/or copper and the visible, piping just below the siding.
The same interior masonry wall of a heated basement might very well look like the image below and I promise it's not blood oozing from the walls a la Daily Mail:
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Blood oozes from home where four Idaho students were killed
Sources in Moscow, Idaho, say the house where four students were brutally murdered Sunday was the worst they have ever seen. There was so much blood that it oozed through the walls.www.dailymail.co.uk
Whose dog was Murphy? Was he Kaylee’s?I’ve also been wondering about Murphy. He would have barked if he was alive during the attacks. I really hope he is okay.