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X and M belonged to the same sorority.No, X and M worked at Mad Greek, not K.
X and M belonged to the same sorority.No, X and M worked at Mad Greek, not K.
So many possibilities!The odds are that the dog was crated in the other bedroom.
I mean, that's what dog owners do with younger dogs..
We always kept our dog in a crate at night...always...dog never slept outside the crate at night.
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Yes, many owners crate them in the same room that they're sleeping in, but the girls may have fallen asleep "where ever" and Kaylee may have planned to return to the room with the dog. It would also make sense that Murphy's crate was in another room.
Update:Yeah I'm honestly not sure at this point. Surely their cells place them somewhere and if they went to Pullman to pickup online JITB order then traffic cams or store cams would have captured them at some point. They could've just gone somewhere to be alone.
However IMO it seems they're looking for 'physical' sightings and I can only assume it is to sight them and/or person(s) with them. Perhaps if speculation of argument/fight at frat party are true maybe looking to see if E had any facial marks from earlier in the night and not from the actual murder?
…sometimes coroners make mistakes. It’s a conceivable and logical theory. E very well may have confronted the killer and then been chased back into the bedroom on the second floor where he and X were killed. Having fought intensely with fear - based adrenaline and epinephrine rushing through his system…E’s heart was racing. The 8-10 pts. In the average human tends to empty quickly in this scenario. Could even explain the seeping blood on the exterior concrete beneath E & X’s bedroom floor.Absolutely. But a lot of people think E was killed bc he heard something upstairs & confronted the killer — However that goes against the coroner saying the victims were most likely sleeping
MOO
I'm confused. I thought they seen leaving the party? Also, "likely"?
Taking off from your posts about all the questions you have (and we all have, IMO)...ties right into what Kaylee's parents are saying. Last night, they were back in Moscow, on the ground, talking to Lawrence Jones.....and they want to literally, audibly, hear LE asking these questions.....K's poor mom lies awake at night with her mind racing with theseThey do, Inside and outside but just because they have cams dosn't mean they can identify everyone.
I just have a lot of questions about the CC..
Did the girls meet up with friends?
Was anybody buying them drinks?
Was there a altercation of any sort?
A lot of posts about a guy at the grub truck and i think it's good to be mindful that there could of been 5 or so interactions at the CC with people that looked out of place instead of lynching one guy.
MOO
We know how it goes, weve all been to high school. Somethings just come easier to some kids. You see those rich beautiful kids with their party house and new cars and all their friends, kids that dont have those opportunities feel slighted and hold *advertiser censored* agaisnt people who have been given a disirable life. I would say kids living in a 3 story party house are probably more taken care of then those in that apartment. If this were the case still something had to trigger them. Maybe you have somewhat of a carrie situation, no sexual assault is what its stumping me. Seems very personal. Dont think anyone would think they were bold enough to commit and actually get away with 4 murders. Maybe someone was waiting for x and e to come home, my understanding they were at home for majority of the night and then went to the frat house for a minimal amount of time and returned home before K and M. Then you may have blood transfer leading up the steps telling that he didnt have to go up the stairs. I feel as though SG is on a state of madness, he doesnt believe this should have happened to his daughter making it seem as she was not the target, thats why he is so upset. I dont think they were sleeping together, it says likely, i think they were either corralled together after encountering the perp or was aware of something going on and went to M's room being in fear and then calling ex bf for help
They can't obtain DNA without probable cause and perhaps even a warrant, both of which are pretty high bars.
It really isn't a right to privacy as much as it is a 5th Amendment right, which is fundamental. A successful PR campaign by authorities (and media) over the last 50 years that it somehow implies guilt doesn't negate that absolute right. Anyone, innocent or not, shouldn't talk to police without an attorney present, and they certainly shouldn't be volunteering personal identifiers for a stored, collective law enforcement database.
The whole "if you had nothing to hide, you would do it" mantra is absurd.
My opinion.
Amid a frenzy of speculation, police are saying little about reports that one of the victims may have had a stalker.
Officers entered the residence and found two victims on the second floor and two victims on the third floor.
If another has really been attacked 600 kilometres away, what does this suggest?During the search of the home, a dog was found in a room where the crimes had not been committed. Officers did not find any evidence on the dog and there was no indication the animal had entered the crime scene.
Yes it was stated early on they was seen leaving at 9pm. If they were 'likely' there as LE stated, then why would LE themselves be seeking information regarding whereabouts!? IF hypothetically E and X were in a room together at frat house then LE would know their whereabouts still. You're left to just shake your head at this point.I'm confused. I thought they seen leaving the party? Also, "likely"?
You’re so welcome.Thank you for the links. All I can tell you there are hoops to jump through and it is not as easy as it sounds to get an autopsy during a criminal investigation, whether LE gets them sealed by a judge or asks for the ME's cooperation, IDK. And LE rarely release them to family. Imo.
Lol. Similar to how Kaylee's sister explained how she engaged in power calling. Blocked me? She'd call in reinforcement (hence Maddie's 3 calls).I’m 44 and if my boyfriend don’t answer I’ll call him back to back until I decide its time to send one word text. Looks like this:
Hello????
??
Really
Not responding
Ok..
I’ll play this game too
True story.
Yes indeed!! And *69 still works!!Lol. Similar to how Kaylee's sister explained how she engaged in power calling. Blocked me? She'd call in reinforcement (hence Maddie's 3 calls).
I don't think X attended the ball. Not sure when/where she and E meet up that evening but it appears they are together by 9pm.Before SM accounts were locked, I think I determined the location of the Sorority event where the Saturday hours of the venue would make for an earlier start and finish.
For example, if the food begins at 4 pm, the band starts at 7 pm, and closing hours are at 10 pm, that would make for an early evening. We also know from Mrs. Chapin's account that the three siblings got dressed up on Saturday and danced the night away.
I've also seen the Moscow PD site seemingly wane back and forth on stating the timeframe the couple attended the Sigma Chi house party and up until today's update, they were limiting the details to E/X being seen at the frat house (no hour stated), and arriving at the King Road residence around 1:45 AM.
Why MPD is back to including 9 PM in the timeline, I'm unsure. Based on experience, I'm inclined to believe various witnesses placed E/X at Sigma Chi during various hours, and when additional evidence revealed one or both were recorded elsewhere, the initial timeline was invalid. The explanation could be as simple as one or both drove to JIB in Pullman, WA, and returned before anybody noticed they were gone. Nonetheless, MPD is charged with accounting for even the slightest departure from the timeline where one or both could have unknowingly encountered their killer.
IMO, LE not publicly acknowledging the Sorority event on Saturday is intentional.
We know E & X were age 20, and only K & M were 21, Idaho's legal drinking age. However, Idaho is also a state with exceptions for underage possession (beer and wine only) private residence, and parent/guardian. MOO
Idaho | APIS - Alcohol Policy Information System
alcoholpolicy.niaaa.nih.gov
that’s why i said contrary to what was releasedNo they have already said that there was no sexual assault