The Observer
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Isn't that a moot point given LE found no evidence on the dog!?Is there evidence the dog was wearing a collar? Mine only wears one on walks, not indoors.
Isn't that a moot point given LE found no evidence on the dog!?Is there evidence the dog was wearing a collar? Mine only wears one on walks, not indoors.
One can provide a very valid service and not be supervised by anyone. Likewise, the possible failure to maintain a log book does not invalidate a service.If it does exist and it's legit they should have a log of pickups they were dispatched to. If they don't have a log and some organization than how valid of a service could it be with no responsibility or supervision to answer to?
Wouldn’t surprise meWouldn’t that make an interesting crime story…killer uses a driverless car to go to crime scene, hides in back seat or trunk…
Absolutely! I'm not sure why people keep mentioning the dog's collar when one, we don't know if he was wearing a collar, and two, the police examined the dog and found no evidence.Isn't that a moot point given LE found no evidence on the dog!?
I too think the motive is complex. Just judging by the quote someone posted from the PD saying the general public has no idea the scope of this investigation.I hope the families get some sort of closure on this terrible crime.
I also feel that despite what SG said earlier, the focus was not K but one/or all of the other 3. I also think LE is keeping matters very discrete because the motives behind this crime is more complex than we would think.
I was reading the MPD press release yesterday and it definitely seems to focus on 2 key points;
1) the movements of X and E in the evening of the murder
2) the owner of the 'white car'
In fact they stated they are 'confident' that the owner/occupant of the 'white car' will provide crucial evidence towards solving the case.
I was encouraged by this Press release because in my opinion LE are narrowing their focus, and again in my opinion they are getting close to the truth.
I cannot find the link to the Press Release from MPD from yesterday-I apologize
I don't know if it's lack of curiosity or understaffed places not wanting to pay employees to examine video footage. But they should have let the police know they had cameras.Jeeze, I guess everyone isn’t as curious as us. 24 miles isn’t very far!
From your link:
“Neither the gas station nor the food store indicated they thoroughly looked through their own video for anything unusual.”
Along with what Pancake said about not getting too married to the movements of the white car(s)? on video, we know that LE has been working hard to maintain the integrity of the investigation, while the media continues to source info.I hope the families get some sort of closure on this terrible crime.
I also feel that despite what SG said earlier, the focus was not K but one/or all of the other 3. I also think LE is keeping matters very discrete because the motives behind this crime is more complex than we would think.
I was reading the MPD press release yesterday and it definitely seems to focus on 2 key points;
1) the movements of X and E in the evening of the murder
2) the owner of the 'white car'
In fact they stated they are 'confident' that the owner/occupant of the 'white car' will provide crucial evidence towards solving the case.
I was encouraged by this Press release because in my opinion LE are narrowing their focus, and again in my opinion they are getting close to the truth.
I cannot find the link to the Press Release from MPD from yesterday-I apologize
I keep seeing this so I thought I'd share my take. I think the business would have the correct time because literally all transactions, communications, and such have to be exact. Every business I worked for (big or small) was well aware of time changes because of these things. Surveillance May be different but idk. (I just like to play out all possibilities).I wonder if the clock didn't change this fall. That would make the time 2:45 which would make a lot more sense if it was heading west toward the murder. Imo.
In the police cam you hear the officer say to the kids that they should come when he yells at them. This is an officer in plain clothes and with a unmarked car in the dark of the night. Something need to change as these kids should run like hell.
I have seen a few conjectures that the Hyundai Elantra could have been burned after the crime. There are many places to hide a vehicle, but in a populated area, I think it would be very risky and very unlikely that a car could be torched without drawing attention. A fire capable of basically destroying a vehicle is not a small blaze. It is a fully-involved, black-smoke fire that would be noticed for quite some distance, and would very likely be seen and reported by someone. JMOI agree. It's also possible that the car has been crushed and junked, possibly after being burned.
Yes that is definitely true and Idon't see anything wrong with speculating. Its just this is sometimes how rumor/speculation turns into "facts". There are already people stating things like "the car drove past the gas station at 3:45" - well we don't know that for sure.That could be said for anything we know so far though. It's what we do, work within the facts we've been given. If it turns out to be wrong, then so be it.
I have seen a few conjectures that the Hyundai Elantra could have been burned after the crime. There are many places to hide a vehicle, but in a populated area, I think it would be very risky and very unlikely that a car could be torched without drawing attention. A fire capable of basically destroying a vehicle is not a small blaze. It is a fully-involved, black-smoke fire that would be noticed for quite some distance, and would very likely be seen and reported by someone. JMO
Maybe that camera got the vehicle coming and going? In at 2:14, out at 3:15? The perp does X and E at 2:30. K &M hear it and frantically call J. Perp moves upstairs, calls stop. Perp speeds out.The surveillance footage placed on top of his six-unit rental building on Linda Lane showed a white car speeding west on Taylor Road between 2.14am and 3.15am on Sunday.
Why such a wide time frame if security video is available? Isn't the time a little too early for the perp to be leaving the scene? Weren't K and M texting JD almost until 3am?
Works perfect for my timeline. Suspect leaving food truck @ 2. Goes to house. Waits for lights to go out @ 2:55. Enters through predetermined easy access, scouted from being in the house previously. Kills K and M very quick- adrenaline is pumping. Tries to leave but is confronted or hears someone. Murders again quickly out of adrenaline and excitement- fear of being discovered. In the house about 5 minutes. Crime of passion from a disgruntled crush(stalker) who felt scorned that night, because his attempts at "hooking up" were denied. IMOThe surveillance footage placed on top of his six-unit rental building on Linda Lane showed a white car speeding west on Taylor Road between 2.14am and 3.15am on Sunday.
Why such a wide time frame if security video is available? Isn't the time a little too early for the perp to be leaving the scene? Weren't K and M texting JD almost until 3am?