Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, arrested* #21

[PinkPrincessPoop]

Alrighty, well, I shared what I thought may be helpful - I am often wrong and sometimes right- I continue to pray for this case and others but I think I'm too sensitive for WS. Thank you for letting me a part of your world - I hope and pray most of you have been wrong and that the kids are alive and well. I'll have to have a break for my own well being, Aloha from Kauai

We need optimistic people to balance us pessimists out!

 

[simlyme]

@Portiz34 PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE!! You have as much right as anyone to be here. You are important to this case.

 

[Anonymous91]

Thank you for your explanation - I do

What does what I said have to do with conspiracies? Might I also add that MK Ultra and other CIA projects were real and you can find the government files about them online. MOO

When you were alluding to people getting chipped.

SBM
"Will this be what they will use to try to make people think getting "chipped" is a good idea"

As far as MK Ultra I've only seen the "Manchurian Candidate" movie, and briefly read about it. I didn't do any research on it, so did not know how much was true and how much wasn't true.

Wouldn't it be crazy if we found out LVD was an MK Ultra victim? That would add a whole other layer of crazy. MOO

 

[Jethro4WS]

The only issue before the judge is bail amount. The extradition hearing on Monday March 2 is when she can challenge whether the charges are valid and whether she is the person wanted. If she produces the kids before then it MIGHT make the felony charges invalid (though I suspect not) but Idaho would still continue with the extradition on the misdemeanors just so they have her locked up. The hearing tomorrow is ONLY about whether the amount of bail is appropriate under Hawaii law. I happen to think it is unusually high but under Hawaii law the bail amount is ultimately up to the judge so any change will be based on the judge's mood, not law. JMO.


I am also very curious about the process. As far as I know state police can't fly with weapons in the cabin. FBI can as can marshals. Even as a prisoner she can't fly without ID. So what if she destroys her ID to thwart extradition? It wouldn't work but I' curious how this works. I also don't think most governments pay for first class under any circumstances. There is also the question of whether exposing the public to an accused felon is acceptable.

Best guess is a commercial flight, economy class, no restraints but closely watched and a couple of armed air marshals on board just in case.

While they likely are allowed to not tell Chad which flight, the nature of Hawaii is that he will likely know.

While commercial air travel is possible, I suspect the use of US Marshals JPATS is likely.

U.S. Marshals Service, Justice Prisoner & Alien Transportation System (JPATS) 

JPATS supports the federal judiciary through its scheduling and transportation responsibilities. JPATS transports sentenced prisoners who are in the custody of the Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) as well as to hearings, court appearances and detention facilities. Military and civilian law enforcement agencies use JPATS to shuttle their prisoners between different jurisdictions at a fraction of what commercial sources would charge.

On average, JPATS completes over 260,000 prisoner/alien movements per year. A network of aircraft, cars, vans and buses accomplishes these coordinated movements. JPATS operates a fleet of aircraft which moves prisoners over long distances more economically and with higher security than commercial airlines. Nearly all air movements are done aboard large and small jets that JPATS owns or leases. Ground transportation is usually provided by the Marshals Service and the BOP.

JPATS is the only government-operated, regularly scheduled passenger airline in the nation. JPATS routinely serves approximately 42 domestic and international cities, plus other major cities in the United States on an as-required basis.​

 

[fuzzybutter]

While commercial air travel is possible, I suspect the use of US Marshals JPATS is likely.

U.S. Marshals Service, Justice Prisoner & Alien Transportation System (JPATS)

JPATS supports the federal judiciary through its scheduling and transportation responsibilities. JPATS transports sentenced prisoners who are in the custody of the Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) as well as to hearings, court appearances and detention facilities. Military and civilian law enforcement agencies use JPATS to shuttle their prisoners between different jurisdictions at a fraction of what commercial sources would charge.

On average, JPATS completes over 260,000 prisoner/alien movements per year. A network of aircraft, cars, vans and buses accomplishes these coordinated movements. JPATS operates a fleet of aircraft which moves prisoners over long distances more economically and with higher security than commercial airlines. Nearly all air movements are done aboard large and small jets that JPATS owns or leases. Ground transportation is usually provided by the Marshals Service and the BOP.

JPATS is the only government-operated, regularly scheduled passenger airline in the nation. JPATS routinely serves approximately 42 domestic and international cities, plus other major cities in the United States on an as-required basis.​

Since LV has only been charged by the State of Idaho and, as far as I know, has no federal charges at this point, can she be transported by JPATS? Will federal Marshals escort her or Idaho State Police? I know that the FBI has been involved, but it seems the feds are in a supportive role at this point.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Since LV has only been charged by the State of Idaho and, as far as I know, has no federal charges at this point, can she be transported by JPATS? Will federal Marshals escort her or Idaho State Police? I know that the FBI has been involved, but it seems the feds are in a supportive role at this point.

From what I quoted ... BBM

JPATS supports the federal judiciary through its scheduling and transportation responsibilities. JPATS transports sentenced prisoners who are in the custody of the Federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) as well as to hearings, court appearances and detention facilities. Military and civilian law enforcement agencies use JPATS to shuttle their prisoners between different jurisdictions at a fraction of what commercial sources would charge.

 

[DoctorAttorney]

When you were alluding to people getting chipped.

SBM
"Will this be what they will use to try to make people think getting "chipped" is a good idea"

As far as MK Ultra I've only seen the "Manchurian Candidate" movie, and briefly read about it. I didn't do any research on it, so did not know how much was true and how much wasn't true.

Wouldn't it be crazy if we found out LVD was an MK Ultra victim? That would add a whole other layer of crazy. MOO

Okay please don't start crazy conspiracy stuff. I just delivered on the freaky Yellowstone murder zone wackadoos. Do not make me debunk this crazy too...

 

[CSIDreamer]

LV clearly is a flight / evasion risk, demonstrated by the way she ran from LE to Hawaii, then refused to comply with Court orders.

I am surprised there is any bail? Or does it have to be set?

Add to the proven flight risk the fact Chad has given notice he's out of that townhome by 2/28. Unless he pops up with a new address other than a resort room they're now basically homeless. So, the court is going to need a new address for her. Jmo

ETA so in preparing for her extradition, he threw another wrench in her bail proceedings lol.

 

[Anonymous91]

Okay please don't start crazy conspiracy stuff. I just delivered on the freaky Yellowstone murder zone wackadoos. Do not make me debunk this crazy too...

I said this as a joke, don't worry. I won't be jumping down that rabbit hole.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

If nothing else... she seems consistent when it comes to over the top self-love and a love of money and attention.
It also mentions that Colby's dad didn't want to be with her - ouch. Bet that stung!

JR didn't want to be with her??? With all that glowing fame she was getting with Mrs. Texas... i dunno....... I don't think lying about her partners started in 2018.

 

[Tortoise]

What a farce this all is. Person who does not admit she is the wanted person requests bond reduction for said wanted person.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I don't know about that, but your suggestion triggered a new question for me. Do we have any indications Chad's kids met Lori before Lori and Chad got married?

Also, I've been racking my brain about that doorbell video of an unidentified woman visiting Lori on Oct 29 and who it could be... I can't name who I'm thinking of (due to TOS) so I'll simply post the MSM photos side-by-side for comparison:

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Image on right is from 2nd video here: Law enforcement searching Daybell's home - Local News 8

Image on left is from doorbell video:

Hair length and color and the style of her winter coat seem like "matches" to me. I'm unsure on body type/height. This could be very strong evidence that only 10 days after Tammy's death Chad had moved out of his Salem home already and was living with Lori before they went to Kauai and got married. Our VI's here already told us Chad moved out the day after the Rexburg Memorial. But if that is who I think it is walking up to the door then it's important evidence. Chad can't claim he happened to meet Lori while he was in Hawaii grieving Tammy or editing a book. I strongly believe he went to live with Lori the day after Tammy's memorial and his kids very well could have known where he was living. The day before this doorbell video we have CCTV that captured the 2 men (believed to be Chad and Alex) moving bikes.

MOO.

This would be easy to determine, if LE talked to the school where she teaches, to see if she was absent from school. Oct 29 was a Tuesday. Lori's one sister kindof looks like this too. But as i always keep thinking, why would they appear on the video cam.... i would think any closer friends would only enter via the garage in the back. Therefore, I keep thinking this might have been someone who lives in Rexburg, and not having flown in, having to be picked up at the airport.

 

[indicolite22]

This would be easy to determine, if LE talked to the school where she teaches, to see if she was absent from school. Oct 29 was a Tuesday. Lori's one sister kindof looks like this too. But as i always keep thinking, why would they appear on the video cam.... i would think they would only enter via the garage in the back.

To me it looks like the person in the video either lived nearby or parked their car in the vicinity of Lori's townhouse. I doubt it's any of Chad's relatives or his writer friend.

 

[indicolite22]

JR didn't want to be with her??? With all that glowing fame she was getting with Mrs. Texas... i dunno....... I don't think lying about her partners started in 2018.

JR wasn't Colby's biological father. That was husband #2.

 

[mommacass]

I'm thinking school reports might sound similar to this:

"The nanny said on September 19, 2019, the next day, she returned to the Rexburg home to babysit JJ. For a while JJ happily played with neighbors, but eventually started “crying and screaming.”

“I tried to calm him down, distract him with a show, tell him how sometimes people need a break, and how he needs to share,” she said. “He threw the chair from their wooden table down, flipped the ottoman over by their couch, and then ran upstairs. I let him cry for a bit, hoping he would calm down, but he didn’t.”

“JJ was […] upset and said his mom wouldn’t want me to come over again, that he hated me, and didn’t want to be my friend. Shortly after this freak out his mom, her brother, and the friend walked in from the garage,” she continued."

Nanny of Missing 7-Year-Old Boy Reveals What She Told Cops About Lori Vallow

Do we know if this is a regular public school or a private ABA school? An ABA has prolific and detailed notes. Public schools special education teachers also write extensive notes. Either way, these records may provide a great deal of information.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

JR wasn't Colby's biological father. That was husband #2.

Not sure what point you are addressing. I am just commenting on how Lori always makes her partners look bad, and never includes herself in the dissolution of their relationships. If she was newly married when she entered the Mrs. Texas event, I would imagine that JR could have been quite jealous of her attention-getting. It would have been a very natural feeling, in my mind. She appears to be such a "femme fatale" in so many ways. "Sucks them in, chews them up, and damages them quite badly...

 

[Hippoinatutu]

Have we had anyone come out in the media who were at this Pool party after CV death yet?

Moo just incase.

 

[FindingJoLee]

JR wasn't Colby's biological father. That was husband #2.

Maybe. The only parent on Colbys birth certificate is Lori. Sorry to keep mentioning this but there may have been someone else involved.

But while we’re here, I do think Joe was the one that got away. I don’t think he was in a good place and things went spectacularly bad between them. But I think the all out war that she waged wrt Tylee’s custody was because he was the one that got away for her. That was a boatload of anger - maybe fueled in part by hurt? (Not discounting that much of it was sick thinking and behavior.)

Charles absolutely loved her and maybe if he came into her life years later, after she was a bit more “over” Joe, she could have appreciated their marriage and the life he wanted to build. It pains me to say that I just don’t think her heart was well enough or interested enough to be with Charles and I hope that doesn’t diminish anyone’s view of Charles.

Just this morning’s thoughts....

 

[indicolite22]

Not sure what point you are addressing. I am just commenting on how Lori always makes her partners look bad, and never includes herself in the dissolution of their relationships. If she was newly married when she entered the Mrs. Texas event, I would imagine that JR could have been quite jealous of her attention-getting. It would have been a very natural feeling, in my mind. She appears to be such a "femme fatale" in so many ways. "Sucks them in, chews them up, and damages them quite badly...

BBM. You replied to "It also mentions that Colby's dad didn't want to be with her" with "JR didn't want to be with her???", implying that JR was Colby's dad in question, which is not accurate IMO.

 

[PJFL]

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