Found Deceased IN - Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #156

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Tuesday, November 22nd:
*Hearing (re if probable cause documents to remain sealed) (@ 9am ET) IN – Abigail Joyce Williams (13) & Liberty Rose Lynn German (14) (Missing Feb. 13, 2017, found killed Feb. 14, 2017, after walking on a local hiking trail & were discovered around noon about 50 feet from the north bank of Deer Creek which is about 0.5 miles from the Monon High Bridge Trail, Delphi) – *Richard “Ricky”/”Rick” Matthew Allen (44 @ time of crime/50) arrested & booked (10/26/22) into the Carroll County Jail & charged & arraigned (10/28/22) with 2 counts of felony murder. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Transferred to White County jail from Carroll County for security reasons. And was transferred (11/2/22) to IN. Dept. of Corrections at a more secure facility.
35-42-1-1(2): Murder: (2) kills another human being while committing or attempting to commit arson, burglary, child molesting, consumer product tampering, criminal deviate conduct (under IC § 35-42-4-2 before its repeal), kidnapping, rape, robbery, human trafficking, promotion of human labor trafficking, promotion of human sexual trafficking, promotion of child sexual trafficking, promotion of sexual trafficking of a younger child, child sexual trafficking, or carjacking (before its repeal).
After Allen was first taken into custody he was detained in the Carroll County Jail, On Oct. 28, 2022 when he was formally charged with two counts of murder, Allen was taken to the White County Jail. On 11/2/22 Tobe H. Leazenby, Sheriff of Carroll County, filed a request by the Sheriff of Carroll County to transfer inmate from Carroll County jail to the custody of the Indiana Dept. of Corrections for safekeeping. On Thursday, 11/3/22, Carroll Circuit Judge Benjamin Diener granted the request.
Trial set to begin on 3/20/23. (5 days)
Regarding search on Oct. 13, 2022 at Allen's property reference #926 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...rders-152-arrest-richard-allen.642285/page-47

Case & court info from 4/19/21 thru 5/17/22 reference post #50 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...n-the-delphi-murders-150-arrest.641899/page-3

10/28/22 Update: Indiana State Police plan a Monday morning news conference to update the investigation of the Delphi murders & who might have killed Libby German & Abby Williams on Feb. 13, 2017. A news release published about 12:35pm Friday did not indicate what the update might be. The news conference is scheduled for 10am Monday, 10/31/22 at the Delphi United Methodist Church. The Journal & Courier will cover the news conference & publish the information shortly after the meeting. Fox 59 in Indianapolis is reporting that a man named Richard Matthew Allen, 50, was arrested & booked into the Carroll County Jail on suspicion of murder in connection to the girls' killings. Fox 59 reported that the man was moved to a state facility for his safety. Recently, Indiana state troopers searched the Wabash River in Peru, Indiana, about 40 minutes east-northeast of Delphi, in connection with the case. First appearance hearing on Friday, 10/28/22.
10/31/22 Update: Carroll County Prosecutor speaking at press conference. At arraignment hearing Carroll County Judge Benjamin Diner did find Probable Cause to charge R. Allen with 2 counts of murder for Abby & Libby. Probable cause & charging docs sealed. It will be released at some time. Sealed because it’s still ongoing, there will be a public hearing on whether they will remain sealed. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Pretrial hearing on 1/13/23 @ 9am. Trial set for March 20, 2023 @ 9am.
11/2/22 Update: The hearing to establish whether the probable cause documents in Allen's case will remain sealed will take place on 11/22/22. His bond was set at $20 million cash or corporate surety by the Court on initial hearing on 10/28/22. 11/3/22: Carroll County Judge Benjamin Diener agreed to release more details about the arrest of a Delphi man charged with murder, while also asking state court administrators to help him deal with a brewing “storm” of requests following his order to keep important court documents sealed in the case.
11/3/22 Update: "In response to an Indiana Access to Public Records Act request from 13News, Diener sent an email Wednesday morning to WTHR & state court officials granting several of 13News’ requests for case information. Among the details released: Allen's initial bail was set at $20 million following his arrest. (The prosecutor said several days later that Allen is now being held with "no bond."). Case summary information showing Allen's past and upcoming court dates. A case number so the public can follow new details & events in the case. A notice setting a 11/22/22 date for a public hearing for Diener to determine whether important records in the case will remain under seal".
11/4/22 Update: Judge Benjamin Diener, who was overseeing the case against Allen has recused himself. The Indiana Supreme Court is in the process of appointing Allen County Judge Frances C. Gull, as Special Judge in the case. Neither Judge Gull nor Judge Diener can speak to press about the merits of the case. Allen has a 11/17/22 deadline to inform court of his choice of attorney.
11/9/22 Update: Correspondence received from defendant Allen requesting appointment of public defender filed. 11/11/22 Update: Allen Superior Judge Fran Gull has begun traveling to the Carroll County Courthouse for preliminary work on the murder trial. Judge Gull declined to talk about her trip or matters that are not public record. She did say she does not plan to move any hearings or the trial out of Carroll County. The next public hearing will be at 9am on 11/22/22 where Gull says she will also address Allen’s request for a public defender with an attorney status hearing.
11/10/22 Update: If a judge grants a public defender to Delphi murders suspect Richard Allen, as he has requested, that attorney must meet certain criteria to handle a murder case. For one, the attorney must have a minimum of three years’ criminal trial experience. Frances C. “Fran” Gull of Allen County — could select someone from outside of Carroll County. Carroll County is about an 80-minute drive northwest of downtown Indianapolis. The rural county has about 20,000 residents. It does not have a public defender’s office, which is common for most smaller rural Indiana counties. Instead, a judge picks public defenders from a pool of local private attorneys. Indiana pays public defenders $90 an hour, which will rise to $100 an hour on Jan. 1. Also, the state will reimburse the county 40% for non-capital-crime cases & 50% for capital cases, provided the attorneys meet certain training & experience standards. The Carroll County prosecutor has not sought the death penalty. Should Allen’s case become a death penalty case, there are less than 20 death penalty-certified public defenders in Indiana.
11/14/22 Update: Allen has received a court-appointed attorney, court records show. The appointment comes after the defendant previously begged the court for a public defender because he did not anticipate the cost of legal representation in a high-profile double murder case. Attorney Andrew Joseph Baldwin with Baldwin Perry & Kamish, P.C., a Franklin, Indiana criminal defense law firm, was appointed to represent Allen. 11/18/22 Update: The Judge has ordered Allen to appear in person in the courtroom on Tuesday, 11/22/22.
11/21/22 Update: Attorneys for Allen filed a request to be released without posting bond or by setting what the request calls a reasonable bail amount. The court documents in which the request was made, the attorneys for Allen say they’ve reviewed the probable cause affidavit & that neither the proof of guilt is evident nor the presumption of guilt strong. Media Intervenor's pre hearing brief seeking public access to probable cause affidavit & charging info.
 
Will be shorten this up a bit.

Tuesday, November 22nd:
*Hearing (re if probable cause documents to remain sealed) (@ 9am ET) IN – Abigail Joyce Williams (13) & Liberty Rose Lynn German (14) (Missing Feb. 13, 2017, found killed Feb. 14, 2017, after walking on a local hiking trail & were discovered around noon about 50 feet from the north bank of Deer Creek which is about 0.5 miles from the Monon High Bridge Trail, Delphi) – *Richard “Ricky”/”Rick” Matthew Allen (44 @ time of crime/50) arrested & booked (10/26/22) into the Carroll County Jail & charged & arraigned (10/28/22) with 2 counts of felony murder. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Transferred to White County jail from Carroll County for security reasons. And was transferred (11/2/22) to IN. Dept. of Corrections at a more secure facility.
35-42-1-1(2): Murder: (2) kills another human being while committing or attempting to commit arson, burglary, child molesting, consumer product tampering, criminal deviate conduct (under IC § 35-42-4-2 before its repeal), kidnapping, rape, robbery, human trafficking, promotion of human labor trafficking, promotion of human sexual trafficking, promotion of child sexual trafficking, promotion of sexual trafficking of a younger child, child sexual trafficking, or carjacking (before its repeal).
After Allen was first taken into custody he was detained in the Carroll County Jail, On Oct. 28, 2022 when he was formally charged with two counts of murder, Allen was taken to the White County Jail. On 11/2/22 Tobe H. Leazenby, Sheriff of Carroll County, filed a request by the Sheriff of Carroll County to transfer inmate from Carroll County jail to the custody of the Indiana Dept. of Corrections for safekeeping. On Thursday, 11/3/22, Carroll Circuit Judge Benjamin Diener granted the request.
Trial set to begin on 3/20/23. (5 days)
Regarding search on Oct. 13, 2022 at Allen's property reference #926 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...rders-152-arrest-richard-allen.642285/page-47

Case & court info from 4/19/21 thru 5/17/22 reference post #50 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...n-the-delphi-murders-150-arrest.641899/page-3

10/28/22 Update: Indiana State Police plan a Monday morning news conference to update the investigation of the Delphi murders & who might have killed Libby German & Abby Williams on Feb. 13, 2017. A news release published about 12:35pm Friday did not indicate what the update might be. The news conference is scheduled for 10am Monday, 10/31/22 at the Delphi United Methodist Church. The Journal & Courier will cover the news conference & publish the information shortly after the meeting. Fox 59 in Indianapolis is reporting that a man named Richard Matthew Allen, 50, was arrested & booked into the Carroll County Jail on suspicion of murder in connection to the girls' killings. Fox 59 reported that the man was moved to a state facility for his safety. Recently, Indiana state troopers searched the Wabash River in Peru, Indiana, about 40 minutes east-northeast of Delphi, in connection with the case. First appearance hearing on Friday, 10/28/22.
10/31/22 Update: Carroll County Prosecutor speaking at press conference. At arraignment hearing Carroll County Judge Benjamin Diner did find Probable Cause to charge R. Allen with 2 counts of murder for Abby & Libby. Probable cause & charging docs sealed. It will be released at some time. Sealed because it’s still ongoing, there will be a public hearing on whether they will remain sealed. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. Pretrial hearing on 1/13/23 @ 9am. Trial set for March 20, 2023 @ 9am.
11/2/22 Update: The hearing to establish whether the probable cause documents in Allen's case will remain sealed will take place on 11/22/22. His bond was set at $20 million cash or corporate surety by the Court on initial hearing on 10/28/22. 11/3/22: Carroll County Judge Benjamin Diener agreed to release more details about the arrest of a Delphi man charged with murder, while also asking state court administrators to help him deal with a brewing “storm” of requests following his order to keep important court documents sealed in the case.
11/3/22 Update: "In response to an Indiana Access to Public Records Act request from 13News, Diener sent an email Wednesday morning to WTHR & state court officials granting several of 13News’ requests for case information. Among the details released: Allen's initial bail was set at $20 million following his arrest. (The prosecutor said several days later that Allen is now being held with "no bond."). Case summary information showing Allen's past and upcoming court dates. A case number so the public can follow new details & events in the case. A notice setting a 11/22/22 date for a public hearing for Diener to determine whether important records in the case will remain under seal".
11/4/22 Update: Judge Benjamin Diener, who was overseeing the case against Allen has recused himself. The Indiana Supreme Court is in the process of appointing Allen County Judge Frances C. Gull, as Special Judge in the case. Neither Judge Gull nor Judge Diener can speak to press about the merits of the case. Allen has a 11/17/22 deadline to inform court of his choice of attorney.
11/9/22 Update: Correspondence received from defendant Allen requesting appointment of public defender filed. 11/11/22 Update: Allen Superior Judge Fran Gull has begun traveling to the Carroll County Courthouse for preliminary work on the murder trial. Judge Gull declined to talk about her trip or matters that are not public record. She did say she does not plan to move any hearings or the trial out of Carroll County. The next public hearing will be at 9am on 11/22/22 where Gull says she will also address Allen’s request for a public defender with an attorney status hearing.
11/10/22 Update: If a judge grants a public defender to Delphi murders suspect Richard Allen, as he has requested, that attorney must meet certain criteria to handle a murder case. For one, the attorney must have a minimum of three years’ criminal trial experience. Frances C. “Fran” Gull of Allen County — could select someone from outside of Carroll County. Carroll County is about an 80-minute drive northwest of downtown Indianapolis. The rural county has about 20,000 residents. It does not have a public defender’s office, which is common for most smaller rural Indiana counties. Instead, a judge picks public defenders from a pool of local private attorneys. Indiana pays public defenders $90 an hour, which will rise to $100 an hour on Jan. 1. Also, the state will reimburse the county 40% for non-capital-crime cases & 50% for capital cases, provided the attorneys meet certain training & experience standards. The Carroll County prosecutor has not sought the death penalty. Should Allen’s case become a death penalty case, there are less than 20 death penalty-certified public defenders in Indiana.
11/14/22 Update: Allen has received a court-appointed attorney, court records show. The appointment comes after the defendant previously begged the court for a public defender because he did not anticipate the cost of legal representation in a high-profile double murder case. Attorney Andrew Joseph Baldwin with Baldwin Perry & Kamish, P.C., a Franklin, Indiana criminal defense law firm, was appointed to represent Allen. 11/18/22 Update: The Judge has ordered Allen to appear in person in the courtroom on Tuesday, 11/22/22.
11/21/22 Update: Attorneys for Allen filed a request to be released without posting bond or by setting what the request calls a reasonable bail amount. The court documents in which the request was made, the attorneys for Allen say they’ve reviewed the probable cause affidavit & that neither the proof of guilt is evident nor the presumption of guilt strong. Media Intervenor's pre hearing brief seeking public access to probable cause affidavit & charging info.
And so it begins..

11/21/22 Update: Attorneys for Allen filed a request to be released without posting bond or by setting what the request calls a reasonable bail amount. The court documents in which the request was made, the attorneys for Allen say they’ve reviewed the probable cause affidavit & that neither the proof of guilt is evident nor the presumption of guilt strong. Media Intervenor's pre hearing brief seeking public access to probable cause affidavit & charging info.
 
Yes. But he could attend just as easily his a live video feed, no? Why have him come in person if she isn’t hearing arguments and is just making a ruling on written submissions?
Probably because she wants to clarify his representation. It's one of the more important legal choices that a defendant can make, and he needs to be in court to say that he accepts the lawyers who are currently representing him. Once that's done, the court and the prosecutors can deal with his lawyers for most things. But I can see her wanting to hear it directly from him instead of just relying on a letter.
 
I've given up on trying to make my late night post very orderly or even cohesive. Most of my statements have nothing to do with my other statements. I've thought a fair amount about when and why he told anyone that he had been there. I know in the first few days they were asking anyone who had been there to talk to them about whatever they may have seen. Since he wouldn't have known yet that there was video and audio of him, along with apparent witnesses, I'm sure it seemed like the best way to avoid suspicion at the time if anyone had seen him.

I've also wondered what, if anything, he did to disguise his face while out there. I can understand people who saw the video clip & sketches, and heard the audio not recognizing him, but it's really hard to believe that none of the witnesses helping with the sketches, or even those who saw him but didn't help, recognized him when they saw him again. I'm also curious to know if anyone who had been there mentioned seeing him there (by name or occupation), and if so, did they just look back at records and see that he had already been talked to.
 
The fact that this person has the audacity to ask to be released while awaiting trial tells everyone just what a narcissist this guy is.
Does he not realize that just the fact that he had to be moved for his own safety means that he would be a sitting here duck for angry people -thus also endangering the welfare of anyone willing to house him?
IMO, he would not make it to his trial, wether by the hands of another or his own.

AMOO
This has nothing to do narcissism. This is defence strategy. This happens all the time. They're doing their job.
 
So if the files can be unsealed tomorrow how long would we have to wait to see them?

Are we talking weeks so they can be redacted for example or would it only be a few hours later after the announcement?
Oh if it's ruled to be released (I'll be very surprised if that happens) you can bet there will be redactions. AJMO
 
I've given up on trying to make my late night post very orderly or even cohesive. Most of my statements have nothing to do with my other statements. I've thought a fair amount about when and why he told anyone that he had been there. I know in the first few days they were asking anyone who had been there to talk to them about whatever they may have seen. Since he wouldn't have known yet that there was video and audio of him, along with apparent witnesses, I'm sure it seemed like the best way to avoid suspicion at the time if anyone had seen him.

I've also wondered what, if anything, he did to disguise his face while out there. I can understand people who saw the video clip & sketches, and heard the audio not recognizing him, but it's really hard to believe that none of the witnesses helping with the sketches, or even those who saw him but didn't help, recognized him when they saw him again. I'm also curious to know if anyone who had been there mentioned seeing him there (by name or occupation), and if so, did they just look back at records and see that he had already been talked to.
Wearing a balaclava?
 
I just found this article that was originally published Feb. 13, 2019 on the A&E channel crime website. I thought this part of the article with quotes from ISP First Sgt. Jerry holeman was interesting....




Makes me think they have been developing this case just waiting for what Carter has repeatedly referred to as the "one missing piece" that proves RA did this for quite a long time and have purposely put misdirection into the equation in order to make everyone come up with theories that have absolutely no basis in reality.
But the thing with that is if LE suspectd him then they would perhaps know about KAK and since KAK was important to this case because of the images he had allegedly on his computer then with the other avvount holder it would be a danger to the public not telling us of the potential ill actibities of these individuals.
 
But the thing with that is if LE suspectd him then they would perhaps know about KAK and since KAK was important to this case because of the images he had allegedly on his computer then with the other avvount holder it would be a danger to the public not telling us of the potential ill actibities of these individuals.
Yes it would...like lying about the case having nothing to do with social media. Only one good soul in LE had the grace to say directly, know what your kids are up to online (paraphrasing). So it happens too much that the public are not told about many things. It's traditional thought that too much information will cause too much panic you see. I'm of the mind, not knowing causes more. AJMO
 
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I just wanted to make a post to say to say that we are all thinking of Abbey and Libby and their loved ones who are facing a very difficult day being in the same room as the individual who allegedly murdered them. It is unimaginable how difficult it will be to finally see the individual who is allegedly responsible for causing them unbearable and tremendous loss, grief, emotional distress, severe stress and horrendous suffering in person. Hopefully today’s hearing will be the start of the process in ensuring the alleged perpetrator is held accountable for what he has allegedly done if he is found guilty, and that he is never free to allegedly harm anyone ever again.

A big thank you to all of you for your news updates and posts over 156 case threads and nearly six years. Thank you also to the Websleuths moderators for all your dedication and hard work. It still doesn’t seem real that an arrest has been been made and I’m still not used to seeing the word arrest in the title of the case thread.
 
JMO.

Sending my strength to Abby’s and Libby’s families, to LE and to the websleuths communities who have been longing for justice in this case.

I have long-scheduled travel today and will be following here. Thanks to each of you for contributing to the information coming out today — you are the eyes and ears for those of us who cannot.

Today may not be THE Day, but I sure hope that it advances justice for Abby & Libby.

JMO.
 
This is slightly off topic at the moment, but I was just reading about the alleged Potomac River Rapist ( who was just found dead in his jail cell awaiting trial) and how he was finally caught. They used genetic genealogy and were able to ID him after he submitted to a DNA swab. I’m interested to find out if DNA testing was part of the recent search warrant for RA.

Edit: new link. Also, I just read the Potomac River rapist/killer submitted voluntarily to DNA testing— no warrant used.

 
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