Inconsistencies in DB's Story

[norest4thewicked]

My fellow WS'rs, I think that this might be a new twist in the case that just might mean something BIG!

 

[In da Middle]

My fellow WS'rs, I think that this might be a new twist in the case that just might mean something BIG!

Not a new twist to me.

 

[In da Middle]

With Brando's background in phones which would include computers I bet there wasn't a thing his wife did on either of them that he did not know about.

BUT it would make sense that he might think that his wife could be using DB's phones to make calls to bypass this background.

 

[In da Middle]

You know, something that we may never find out is what exactly was the 'content' of things being discussed while DB/SB were outside and if there is any relevance to events that night. What if DB told something to JI based on conversations she had with SB hours earlier when he got home after they realized BL was gone? This in turn prompted JI to go to SB's house.

Something to think about.

But I bet I can guess what at least part of their conversation was about. Sb's husband just got kicked out and the ladies were getting drinking so my guess is that the kicked out husband was the biggest topic and the ladies were probably not being very quiet about it after a few drinks. I think drunk just happened in the process.

 

[Sparklin]

I tend to agree with this. We don't know what their normal behavior in similar situations is.

The behavior that still confuses me though is why JI went rushing over to SB's. And I think he was PO'd when he did. If DB woke up all alarmed as she says, why would JI assume BL was at SB's? Wouldn't DB have been able to tell him?

Idk, but something about that whole behavior is off to me. This is all MOO, but I have speculated that maybe JI did check on all the kids when he came home. When he found BL wasn't there, did he stomp off expecting to find DB and BL over at SB's? When they weren't did he go back home and wake DB? There has to be some kind of history there, otherwise it just doesn't make sense to me. MOO

ETA-*warning, complete speculation* or worse, maybe DB was over at SB's.

bbm - I thought something along the same lines, as in he checked all the kids, saw the youngest boy and Lisa not in their beds, went into his room expecting them to both be in with Deb ~ hence the chaos...

 

[Whisperer]

Now we have some dots to connect. I knew this benefactor thing was going to be important. Mike LeRette....well, my, my, my. He was like white on salt with this case in the beginning...then he took off back to Texas....

I have been asking about this connection since Day 1, doc. I have been reading and reading about her. There are Pics of her w/BS before this ever happened...but LeRette is somehow linked. How he got her invovlved would be interesting to know.

 

[Whisperer]

No wonder SB is so close to DB...she has a connection with her cousin who has connections. She wouldn't want to jeopardize that!

 

[Whisperer]

Hambirg, I suspect DB was at Samantha's at some time that night. I bet the drinking was done there. When did Mike LeRette actually come to town? Maybe he was the one who rented the house on Walrond initially.

He had to be living nearby if he was involved w/Sam. B.

 

[vlpate]

But I bet I can guess what at least part of their conversation was about. Sb's husband just got kicked out and the ladies were getting drinking so my guess is that the kicked out husband was the biggest topic and the ladies were probably not being very quiet about it after a few drinks. I think drunk just happened in the process.

SB and JB went to a therapist earlier in the day, IIRC, and they decided amicably to separate. She didn't "kick" him out, unless there's information out there that's not been released to the public.

I agree that they were probably talking about the relationship and comparing notes - I just don't see what their conversation would have to do with BL. IMO

 

[Whisperer]

Not a new twist to me.

.......you are telling us NOW you knew the entire time? :waitasec:

 

[DeAnn]

Not a new twist to me.

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for those asking, LaRette tweeted about flying from Texas on Oct. 4 to be by his family's side. He said he was in Texas when he learned she was missing. He allegedly had been coming back and forth between Texas and Kansas City in the weeks before Lisa's disappearance.

 

[Whisperer]

SB and JB went to a therapist earlier in the day, IIRC, and they decided amicably to separate. She didn't "kick" him out, unless there's information out there that's not been released to the public.

I agree that they were probably talking about the relationship and comparing notes - I just don't see what their conversation would have to do with BL. IMO

me either vlpate. What is interesting is the Lerette, samantha, benefactor dealings. Was mike doing this to protect SB from being considered a suspect or was he doing it to protect DB or both. I am not sure how close he is to DB, if at all. At least now I can understand why SB wants to be close to DB and her brother.That clears that up. SB has an ulterior motive...to say close to DB.

As far as the baby, I don't see the connection...unless some conspiracy thinkers are going to connect mike and sb as the ones who took Lisa. I will not go there. Just taking a guess on where they are coming from and where they will go with it.

DB is the one who is responsible for whatever happened to Lisa, imo. I couldn't imagine why SB would stand by her, now I know.

 

[kansascitypi]

Well, as for my discussion about JB, it was as a blogger even though I am a PI by profession. I have learned throughout this as many people who feel I have done something, there will be those who criticize. A lot of second guessers. I never said JB was guilty of anything. Quite the contrary. I just find it odd you wouldn't want to sit down and figure out things to help your neighbor find their baby when you already offered your assistance previously.

 

[melissasmom]

Well, as for my discussion about JB, it was as a blogger even though I am a PI by profession. I have learned throughout this as many people who feel I have done something, there will be those who criticize. A lot of second guessers. I never said JB was guilty of anything. Quite the contrary. I just find it odd you wouldn't want to sit down and figure out things to help your neighbor find their baby when you already offered your assistance previously.

Ron (if you happen to come back), do you know if JB or SB know Jersey? Or Megan? Dane? TIA

 

[vlpate]

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for those asking, LaRette tweeted about flying from Texas on Oct. 4 to be by his family's side. He said he was in Texas when he learned she was missing. He allegedly had been coming back and forth between Texas and Kansas City in the weeks before Lisa's disappearance.

Allegedly by whom?

 

[SmoothOperator]

Not too sure if this would be The "correct" thread but it did resurface in my mind as "inconsistent" not only today as I was reading the posts in this thread, but also seemed "inconsistent" all the other very many times that this detail/issue has come to my mind... My apologies if this doesn't fit correctly in this thread(will be happy to move it if anyone knows where it would be most appropriate to post it)

It's regarding something that has been stated numerous times since Lisa's disappearance and while it may not be a literal inconsistency of their own words/accounts of the events of that night but Imo it is very much an inconsistency regarding how the events have been portrayed to have happened that night/morning... Hopefully I'll be able to explain what I mean in a halfway decent and therefore understandable way..

QThe detail is not ALWAYS described in the parents version of the events as they occurred, but it has been told by Jeremy on several occasions in his describing the events that occurred as he arrived home at that early morning hour and for each and every of those times that he has included it or explained it... well it every single time jumps out at me as "inconsistent" with what it is he is attempting to recall and describe to us, the media/public about the events that occurred.. I always attempt to stay of an objective frame of mind each and every time I read and/or hear both new info/details of that night just as well I do for already known details/info about the night/morning in question.. It is possible in my striving to always do so(keep objective frame of mind) that I am just being overly sensitive/aware in my pinpointing this issue I'm now calling "inconsistent".. I am aware of that as a possibility but feel there is no harm in my making mention of this detail that continues to "pop out" at me..

When Jeremy describes the events as they occurred upon his arriving at the home sometime shy of 4am we know he enters the unlocked front door, immediately recognizes that all(or a good many) of the lights are on inside the home, as well as he sees the computer room window is open& attempts to shut it but is unable to do so due to the screen being bent/damaged in a way that it obstructs the window from being able to completely close... He then heads towards the family bedrooms.. Initially passing Lisa's and instead checks the boys room first where he sees only his son asleep in that bedroom... He then enters their(he& db) bedroom where he realizes that the other son(Debs bio son) is in bed with mom asleep..

From this point he has described more than once that he begins to converse with Deb(he doesn't specify awaking her so I've always assumed that he just sorta started speaking to her and his voice awakened her.. Jmo, tho!) and he describes the subject of the conversation to not be concerned, questioning, angering (again that's how I personally take it) and that it's at this point that he may inquire why did she have so many lights on or did she forget to lock the front door.. It is during this seemingly calm convo between the two of them that what he says next is what "pops out" to me each and every time I've read or heard his recalling this account..

He says that DB unexpectedly springs up from the bed already Imo seeming to be anxiety filled and immediately worried/scared... She is all in one motion sprung from the bed, feet on the ground, and body set forward in motion in heading directly to Lisa's bedroom while making statements like "oh my God, Lisa!! Oh my God where is Lisa? "... It is this event and statements, combined with the demeanor that each and every time this detail "pops out" at me and what I've deemed as *inconsistent* with what we've been told is to have occurred and exactly how/why it occurred..

Again, I'll say that maybe it is just me in my being hypersensitive and aware and attempts at keeping an objective frame of mind rather than subjective.. It could very possibly mean nil... But it is something that doesn't "fit" for me, atleast..

Because the long-short of it is that it appears to me as if nothing per se was "discovered" that caused this very visceral reaction from deb... It appears as tho out of the blue as Jeremy is talking with her, that at the same time she is beginning to really awaken from a deep sleep, with alcohol intoxication as well.. And to me it seems as tho as she is awakening and coming out the haze that she all of a sudden of her own doing recalls *SOMETHING* that immediately incites a massive onset of pure panic regarding Lisa, Lisa's whereabouts, and Lisa's well-being.. This occurs rapidly for deb and Imo it is this action/reaction of Debs that then sets in motion the events as we know them to have unfolded from that point on including soon thereafter Jeremy making the call to 911..

So.. Have others picked up on this as well??. And if so what are you all's opinion/feelings about that *possibly* strange or odd occurance??. MEANING THAT to me it seems very much as tho deb and Jeremy DID NOT *discovser* Lisa's bed empty thus determining her to be *missing*... But that Imo seems much more that deb, alone quickly and with a sudden onset of sheer anxiety and urge to find Lisa, determine her whereabouts and her well being immediately.. As in she,alone came to this scared/fearful conclusion that *something* had happened to Lisa and that deb upon waking had memories flood her of what it was possibly that happened...

I hate to even type that because I don't know that deb had any direct involvement or knowledge of harm to Lisa but I felt with as many times as this detail/issue has *popped out* at me that maybe, just maybe there is something there.. Idk??. But I'd certainty like to get others opinions as well as feedback of any who may have noticed this issue/detail.. And if not having ever noticed or thought nothing of it then what now is your opinion on this detail that I've attempted to describe as best as possible?? :crazy:..

TIA and I welcome any/all opinions/views regarding these details..

*sorry for my long windedness..

 

[Marshmallow]

Well, as for my discussion about JB, it was as a blogger even though I am a PI by profession. I have learned throughout this as many people who feel I have done something, there will be those who criticize. A lot of second guessers. I never said JB was guilty of anything. Quite the contrary. I just find it odd you wouldn't want to sit down and figure out things to help your neighbor find their baby when you already offered your assistance previously.

he did cooperate fully with the authorities, did he not?

 

[melissasmom]

And to me it seems as tho as she is awakening and coming out the haze that she all of a sudden of her own doing recalls *SOMETHING* that immediately incites a massive onset of pure panic regarding Lisa, Lisa's whereabouts, and Lisa's well-being..[/B] This occurs rapidly for deb and Imo it is this action/reaction of Debs that then sets in motion the events as we know them to have unfolded from that point on including soon thereafter Jeremy making the call to 911..

So.. Have others picked up on this as well??. And if so what are you all's opinion/feelings about that *possibly* strange or odd occurance??. MEANING THAT to me it seems very much as tho deb and Jeremy DID NOT *discovser* Lisa's bed empty thus determining her to be *missing*... But that Imo seems much more that deb, alone quickly and with a sudden onset of sheer anxiety and urge to find Lisa, determine her whereabouts and her well being immediately.. As in she,alone came to this scared/fearful conclusion that *something* had happened to Lisa and that deb upon waking had memories flood her of what it was possibly that happened...
I hate to even type that because I don't know that deb had any direct involvement or knowledge of harm to Lisa but I felt with as many times as this detail/issue has *popped out* at me that maybe, just maybe there is something there.. Idk??. But I'd certainty like to get others opinions as well as feedback of any who may have noticed this issue/detail.. And if not having ever noticed or thought nothing of it then what now is your opinion on this detail that I've attempted to describe as best as possible?? :crazy:..

TIA and I welcome any/all opinions/views regarding these details..

*sorry for my long windedness..

Respectfully snipped for space

SmoothOperator, I think this is a GREAT post. And I understand exactly what you are trying to convey.

I have had similar thoughts. If DB was drunk, when JI woke her up and essentially said "What the he$$ is going on?" DID she have some kind of flash, or small memory of something happening the night before? It is a question in my mind also. Which is why I am on the fence because even though there is not enough evidence yet, IMO, to say DB is involved, her being drunk is what brings up questions in my mind.

Again, thanks for the excellent post.

 

[vlpate]

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for those asking, LaRette tweeted about flying from Texas on Oct. 4 to be by his family's side. He said he was in Texas when he learned she was missing. He allegedly had been coming back and forth between Texas and Kansas City in the weeks before Lisa's disappearance.

Actually, he spent all day on October 4th asking a news station to keep him updated - why didn't he just call his family?

He flew out on October 5th.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Actually, he spent all day on October 4th asking a news station to keep him updated - why didn't he just call his family?

He flew out on October 5th.

Interesting!