Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #13

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  • Israel and Hamas have agreed to extend a temporary truce for an additional two days on the pause's fourth and last day, Hamas and Qatari mediators announced.

  • Hamas will free another 20 women and children during the pause in fighting, the Pentagon's top spokesman told reporters today.
 
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Red Cross says latest group of hostages have been received and are en route to Israel, IDF says​


“The Red Cross says the hostages have been received and en route to Israel, according to the Israel Defense Forces.

Eleven hostages are currently on their way to Israeli territory, the IDF added.”


 
“Three-year-old twins Emma and Yuli Cunio, were held captive by Hamas in Gaza for 50 days until their release Monday evening as part of a ceasefire deal with Israel.”

 
MY OWN OPINION:
I don't understand Hagari's perspective. Were the children who were shot and killed at Robb Elementary the responsibility of the school shooter, or the police who were there to save them? Israel is clearly the stronger power with more intelligence, arms, and power here - they should be doing everything they can to ensure the safety and livelihood of the hostages until they are safely back home with their families. They have more control and knowledge than terrorist groups.
hamas took them, they should know who they gave them to. It was one of their partner terrorist groups, do says hamas. They just need to make a phone call or two.
This is just psychological warfare and a way to delay and get an extra 2 days of humanitarian aid and fuel.
Moo ...
 
Personally I blame Netanyahu for funding Hamas for years and not protecting the Israeli people on Oct 7th.

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces​

 
“"An agreement has been reached with the brothers in Qatar and Egypt to extend the temporary humanitarian truce by two more days, with the same conditions as in the previous truce," a Hamas official said in a phone call with Reuters.

None of the announcements specified how many hostages would be released, but earlier the head of Egypt's State Information Service, Diaa Rashwan, had said the deal being negotiated would include the release of 20 Israeli hostages from among those seized by Hamas during its Oct. 7 assault on southern Israel. In exchange 60 Palestinian prisoners held in Israeli jails would be freed, he said.“

 
2 Minutes ago

Hamas: "Ready to negotiate over kidnapped soldiers"​



Will we see Hamass release male hostages over the next two days? Including elderly male hostages who are at high risk for their health? Male and female soldiers and elderly male civilians and other male hostages?
 
#Israel is killing innocent civilians.

GRAPHIC: The current state of a hospital in Gaza Strip, following the airstrike that killed 70 civilians today when they were heading south as ordered by IDF.


Yes, innocent civilians are dying in Gaza. Many innocent civilians were killed by HAMAS on Oct 7th. Many were taken hostage and brought into Gaza. HAMAS is directly responsible for any Palestinian deaths occurring in Gaza. They could end all of this if they released all hostages and if HAMAS surrendered. They haven't and they won't so Israel is doing the best it can to warn Palestinains and move them away from where they will be targeting. This article was from Nov. 10th. HAMAS continued to fire rockets into Israel. What should Israel do in response to it's people being raped, tortured, burned alive, abducted, AND to HAMAS's continuous firing of rockets into Israel? Oh and quite a few of HAMAS's rockets are actually landing in Gaza so there is no way to say which deaths are a result of Israel firing at HAMAS or as a result of HAMAS's own rockets failing and landing on civilians in Gaza.



The military said some 9,500 missiles, rockets and drones were fired at Israel from Gaza and other fronts since Oct. 7, and 2,000 of them had been shot down by air defenses designed to ignore projectiles on a course to land harmlessly in open areas.

Some 12% of Gaza rockets, which are mostly locally made, had fallen short within Palestinian territory, the military said.

"With the entry of (Israeli) forces on the ground, there has a significant drop-off in the number of launches," it said.
 
Personally I blame Netanyahu for funding Hamas for years and not protecting the Israeli people on Oct 7th.

For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces​


Hamas=Isis bears sole responsibility and blame for the October 7th massacre of innocent babies, children, mothers, fathers, grandmothers, grandfathers, and others.

Hamas=Isis
 

In a flash, Melissa Joudah lost 60 family members and use of her legs​

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Deir el-Balah – About 4am one night during the second week of Israel’s bombardment of Gaza, Yasmeen Joudah woke up to her mobile phone ringing nonstop.
Astounded, she realised that people were calling to offer their condolences over the killing of her entire family.

Horrified, she ran through the pre-dawn streets to where her parents’ home once stood and flung herself on the rubble, scrabbling through the shattered concrete with her bare hands.
The Joudahs had been asleep when an Israeli missile targeted their four-level home, burying dozens of them underneath the rubble.

Yasmeen looked around helplessly as body after body was pulled out from under the rubble.
Then 16-month-old Melissa, her sister’s cheerful daughter who had just taken her first steps weeks earlier, was pulled out, completely still and quiet. Everyone assumed she was dead.

Shrapnel from the Israeli air attack had lodged in Melissa’s spinal cord, paralysing her from the chest down
Weeks later, Yasmeen’s grief wavers in her voice, her tears spilling down her face.
“Everyone is gone,” she said, speaking from inside the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital. “All five of my siblings were killed. My mother. My two aunts. Their daughters, their sons. My brother-in-law.
“I want them back. Bring them back to me,” she sobbed.

From her immediate family, Yasmeen counted 32 members killed, most of them women. Melissa’s father, his parents, his sisters and their children were also killed, bringing the total to 68 members of the Joudah family.


Blame Hamas

jmo
 


Per above Haaretz link, hostages released are:

9 Children
2 Women

3 French
2 German
6 Argentinian

Ref/list of all hostages and their nationalities (prior to this 4th round): Hamas hostages: Stories of the hostages taken by Hamas from Israel


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“All are Israeli, an Israel Defense Forces spokesperson told CNN.”

 
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“Three-year-old twins Emma and Yuli Kunyo along with their mother being transferred from Hamas to the Red Cross in the Gaza Strip”:

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“Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar, the man behind the planning of the October 7 massacre, spoke to Israeli hostages while they were held in Gaza, one Israeli who was released from captivity this week told her family, Israeli media reported on Monday evening.”

 
MY OWN OPINION:
I don't understand Hagari's perspective. Were the children who were shot and killed at Robb Elementary the responsibility of the school shooter, or the police who were there to save them? Israel is clearly the stronger power with more intelligence, arms, and power here - they should be doing everything they can to ensure the safety and livelihood of the hostages until they are safely back home with their families. They have more control and knowledge than terrorist groups.

You are comparing the attack on Israel and the children harmed and stolen to children who were shot and killed at Robb Elementary?? Well, this makes no sense to me.

These hostages were taken during a massacre... family members tortured and killed by terrorists. These hostages are in the hands of terrorists who think nothing of strapping a bomb on anyone (or any thing) to further their shouts of Jewish blood.

jmo
 
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MY OWN OPINION:
I don't understand Hagari's perspective. Were the children who were shot and killed at Robb Elementary the responsibility of the school shooter, or the police who were there to save them? Israel is clearly the stronger power with more intelligence, arms, and power here - they should be doing everything they can to ensure the safety and livelihood of the hostages until they are safely back home with their families. They have more control and knowledge than terrorist groups.
I guess I am confused by your question. If Hamas kidnaps people and takes them somewhere, Hamas is responsible for them. Even in Hamas transfers custody of them to someone else, Hamas is still responsible for them. If someone breaks into my home and steals my TV, is it my fault because I didn't have a stronger lock on my door? Or is it the fault of the burglar?
 
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