Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #8

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IDF gives more details about attack on Jabalia​

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Paul Adams
Reporting from Jerusalem

People in Northern Gaza were repeatedly advised for 3 weeks to evacuate to South of the Gaza River. There are safe areas where there are no tunnels.

They were told that Hamas was hiding in tunnels under their city. Maps of the tunnels have been widely distributed for weeks. They were told that IDF was going to eliminate Hamas from those tunnels. Common sense tells us that if tunnels underneath buildings and roads are damaged, buildings will collapse and sinkholes will form.

It is very unfortunate that some parents chose to keep their children in a dangerous war zone when Israel gave them a choice and explained why they should evacuate.
 

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I agree. Sadly, just look where he got part of his idiot education...

Colorado State University and Louisiana State University of Alexandria


ETA: And, I do believe he is listed here:

How is that possible? How could he have a post secondary degree and not understand the responsibilities of the elected government of any country?

It must be his religious ideas that allow him to disregard the lives of civilians in Gaza.
 
Marzook is a real demon

Marzook left a significant legacy in the United States. During his tenure in the US, he created an extensive network to support HAMAS' terrorist activities. In addition to serving on the board of directors of the Islamic Association for Palestine, which courts have found "desired to help HAMAS activities succeed" and acted on that desire,[8] he also founded a think-tank called the United Association for Studies and Research (UASR).[9] Marzook also provided the Holy Land Foundation (HLF), with $210,000 in initial funding;[10] and channeled $250,000 in investment capital to Infocom, a Texas-computer business run by relatives of Marzook's wife.[11]

Federal prosecutors say the IAP, UASR and HLF the were created by the Muslim Brotherhood's Palestinian Committee in the United States "to comprehensively address Hamas' needs."[12]

On December 17, 2002, Infocom and its leaders (five members of the Elashi family) were indicted for engaging in financial transactions with Libya, Syria, and Musa Abu Marzook.[13] According to the indictment, Infocom received at least $250,000 from accounts controlled by Marzook.[14] Infocom was found guilty on all ten counts with which it was charged.[15]

ETA: Actually, some of the best info regarding Marzook (and his fellow terrorists) is in the link below. A book called "Inside Al Qaeda" by Rohan Gunaratna (who seems to know his field).

Here's just a snippet (but there's much more at the link)

Makhtab Al Khidamat/Al Kifah Wafa Humanitarian Organisation Al Rashid Trust Mamoun Darkanzanli Import Export Company 26

The US Office of Foreign Assets Control has also released the names of a further 2,500 companies and individuals whose assets are to be blocked.The list includes individual terrorists, some linked to Al Qaeda, some not. For instance, Imad Fayiz Mughniyeh, the principal head of intelligence and operations of Hezbollah, is listed as a senior intelligence officer, born on December 7, 1962, in Tayr Dibba, Lebanon. But Abu Marzook, the Hamas political leader in Jordan and Syria, who is not linked to Al Qaeda, is included with his Egyptian passport and US Social Security numbers. The list also includes companies run by states designated as sponsors of terrorism and various banks, including several from Sudan: Islamic Cooperative Development Bank of Sudan, Bank e Millie Afghan, Bank of Khartoum, and the Agricultural Bank of Sudan. What has been largely disrupted is Al Qaeda’s formal banking network, including many of its clandestine and feeder accounts. Nonetheless, the group has the capability to generate new sources of finance and build an alternative unregulated banking network.

 
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I hope the time is correct and not British time!
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IDF give more details about attack on Jabalia

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Paul Adams
Reporting from Jerusalem

He said the IDF had struck in-between buildings, targeting the tunnel complex underneath. The collapse of the tunnels, he said, had caused surrounding buildings to collapse. This, he said “cannot be avoided”.

He said the attack had involved more than one bomb, but he did not elaborate.

The IDF, he said, was looking into reports of “collateral damage” and “non-combatant casualties”.
Bbm.
Thanks for the link and clarifying this !
 
So he's calling on all Turkish citizens to openly attack and kill US servicemembers ?
My god.

I just had lunch at a Turkish restaurant earlier today. I’ll have to reconsider that place now, because I certainly don’t want my money diverted to a place that supports terrorists.
They were told that Hamas was hiding in tunnels under their city. Maps of the tunnels have been widely distributed for weeks. They were told that IDF was going to eliminate Hamas from those tunnels. Common sense tells us that if tunnels underneath buildings and roads are damaged, buildings will collapse and sinkholes will form.

It is very unfortunate that some parents chose to keep their children in a dangerous war zone when Israel gave them a choice and explained why they should evacuate

Absolutely.

If I scrolled back over this thread, I’ll bet we have said this 100 times.

IMO this illustrates the stark difference in the mindsets of terrorists vs. people who value themselves and others.

If there were ever such a phenomenon as Hamas giving advance warning to the kibbutzes that they were going to attack them on such-and-such day, the Israelis would have further fortified their homes OR removed their children immediately.

IMO they would not have stayed when they had been warned that their families could die or be taken hostage.

One culture cherishes life, the other courts death.
 
SYRACUSE, NEW YORK – Patrick Dai, age 21, a junior at Cornell University who is originally from Pittsford, New York, was arrested today on a federal criminal complaint charging him with posting threats to kill or injure another using interstate communications. The announcement was made by United States Attorney Carla B. Freedman; Alfred Watson, Acting Special Agent in Charge of the Albany Field Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI); New York State Police Acting Superintendent Dominick L. Chiumento; and Cornell University Police Chief Anthony Bellamy.

The complaint alleges that Dai posted threatening messages to the Cornell section of an online discussion site, including posts calling for the deaths of Jewish people and a post that said “gonna shoot up 104 west.” According to information provided by Cornell University Police and other public information, 104 West is a Cornell University dining hall that caters predominantly to Kosher diets and is located next to the Cornell Jewish Center, which provides residences for Cornell students. In another post, Dai allegedly threatened to “stab” and “slit the throat” of any Jewish males he sees on campus, to rape and throw off a cliff any Jewish females, and to behead any Jewish babies. In that same post, Dai threatened to “bring an assault rifle to campus and shoot all you pig jews.” The charges and the allegations in the complaint are merely accusations. The defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.

The charge filed against Dai carries a maximum term of 5 years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and a term of supervised release of up to 3 years. A defendant’s sentence is imposed by a judge based on the particular statute the defendant is charged with violating, the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other factors.
Dai is expected to make his initial appearance tomorrow in federal court in Syracuse, New York, before a United States Magistrate Judge.

The FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), which includes the New York State Police, is investigating this case along with the Cornell University Police Department and the Ithaca Police Department. The United States Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of New York is prosecuting the case, in conjunction with the Counterterrorism Section of the Department of Justice.
Updated October 31, 2023

 

At last, something that makes sense.

I certainly hope other colleges and universities follow suit.

ETA: From the link—-just look at these ”combatants” Hamas felt driven to kill.

How ANYONE, especially the so-called “educated,” can find any reason to justify this is appalling and deserving of swift and strict consequences.

IMO

Tamar Kedem-Siman Tov with her husband Johnny and their five-year-old daughters Shachar and Arbel, and their two-year-old son Omer. They were murdered on October 7
 
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SYRACUSE, NEW YORK – Patrick Dai, age 21, a junior at Cornell University who is originally from Pittsford, New York, was arrested today on a federal criminal complaint charging him with posting threats to kill or injure another using interstate communications. The announcement was made by United States Attorney Carla B. Freedman; Alfred Watson, Acting Special Agent in Charge of the Albany Field Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI); New York State Police Acting Superintendent Dominick L. Chiumento; and Cornell University Police Chief Anthony Bellamy.

The complaint alleges that Dai posted threatening messages to the Cornell section of an online discussion site, including posts calling for the deaths of Jewish people and a post that said “gonna shoot up 104 west.” According to information provided by Cornell University Police and other public information, 104 West is a Cornell University dining hall that caters predominantly to Kosher diets and is located next to the Cornell Jewish Center, which provides residences for Cornell students. In another post, Dai allegedly threatened to “stab” and “slit the throat” of any Jewish males he sees on campus, to rape and throw off a cliff any Jewish females, and to behead any Jewish babies. In that same post, Dai threatened to “bring an assault rifle to campus and shoot all you pig jews.” The charges and the allegations in the complaint are merely accusations. The defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.

The charge filed against Dai carries a maximum term of 5 years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and a term of supervised release of up to 3 years. A defendant’s sentence is imposed by a judge based on the particular statute the defendant is charged with violating, the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other factors.
Dai is expected to make his initial appearance tomorrow in federal court in Syracuse, New York, before a United States Magistrate Judge.

The FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), which includes the New York State Police, is investigating this case along with the Cornell University Police Department and the Ithaca Police Department. The United States Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of New York is prosecuting the case, in conjunction with the Counterterrorism Section of the Department of Justice.
Updated October 31, 2023

Good grief! I didn't know he said all that! His life is gonna be a waste now!
 


“Attacks on Palestinians in the occupied West Bank are surging, with at least 115 killed, more than 2,000 injured and nearly 1,000 others forcibly displaced from their homes because of violence and intimidation by Israeli forces and settlers since Hamas attacked Israel on Oct. 7, according the United Nations.

Among the dead are 33 children, according to an update on Sunday from the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, which has been tracking the conflicts.”
 
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