Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #8

[otto]

During WWI, the Turks apparently murdered babies and ripped out fetuses of pregnant women. (At least according to my grandmother) But this story gets repeated every generation and I'm beginning to wonder if it's Christian lore handed down or just the stress of war. ( They did murder family members, but they murdered mostly men)

After 911, there really wasn't "a war". There was a fact finding mission. After a few weeks, the CIA and a few troops went to Afghanistan to hunt OBL. Not much happened. You would see a few pictures of people in the mountains of Afghanistan and that was about it. It was boring to watch.

In this case, bombing started the next day and it was bombing right there for the world to see. This very crowded war is being played out on SM. Not only are we watching bombings, we're seeing graphic images of civilians who are severely injured or dead.

It remains me a bit of the invasion of Iraq. But by then, Americans weren't really angry or fearful like after 9/11. There were huge anti-war protests. I was against it. Nevertheless, everyone watched the invasion of Iraq on CNN. Glued to our TV for weeks. We watched our tanks roll in. We watched the fighting. We watched Saddam's statue pulled down. We successfully invaded Iraq in a month. (Turn the TV off). A few months later, everything went south and was painful to watch.

Good reason to cut off the internet - real time war entertainment and coordination.

 

[Vern]

500 foreign passport holders will be allowed to leave Gaza today in a deal brokered by Qatar and Egypt.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719619932034343128

Mediated by Qatar: an agreement was reached between Egypt, Israel and Hamas and in coordination with the US, under which wounded people with foreign passports will be evacuated from the Gaza Strip - according to Reuters

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719615229217104257

IDF publishes a video showing a drone strike against Palestinian gunmen who were clashing with Israeli forces in the West Bank's Jenin refugee camp. Three Palestinians were reported killed in the raid.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719608832320499990

Also during the Jenin raid, the IDF says troops located and destroyed a tunnel used by local terror operatives.
https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1719609051397378445

Reported strike on a target near Shifa hospital in northern #Gaza

https://twitter.com/no_itsmyturn/status/1719619170071871521

Ambulance from Egypt entering Gaza now through the Rafah crossing following the agreement reached.

https://twitter.com/YWNReporter/status/1719610781455565188

 

[IDK]

During WW2, Western Canada rounded up the Japaense and put them in a camp in the Rocky Mountains until the end of the war. They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's a bit like Israelis trying to peacefully live with Hamas sympathizers during war. 1400 family members in farming communities were terrorized, mutilated, murdered, beheaded and burned. Two piles of 10 children with their hands tied behind their backs. Burned to a crisp, might be identified by teeth.

A group of Hamas sympathizers living in Israel's backyard is reasonable cause for concern. Only way around it for people in the West Bank is to 100% support the victims, assist with identifying the locations of hostages, and cooperate with Israel. Anything less means they are a threat that needs to be contained.

The article I posted didn’t mention that they are not doing any of the things you describe. Respectfully, do you have a source for your statements?


Unfortunately, violence by the West Bank settlers against Palestinians has been going on for years, way before the horrific events in October. These multiple incidents can be found with a simple google search.

The article below mentions violence by the settlers going back at least as far as 2006.

Israeli settler violence - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

“Palestinians are the target of violence by Jewish Israeli settlers and their supporters, predominantly in the West Bank. In November 2021, Defense Minister Benny Gantz discussed the steep rise in the number of incidents between settlers and Palestinians in the West Bank, many of which result from attacks by residents of illegal settler outposts on Palestinians from neighboring villages”

 

[katydid23]

SYRACUSE, NEW YORK – Patrick Dai, age 21, a junior at Cornell University who is originally from Pittsford, New York, was arrested today on a federal criminal complaint charging him with posting threats to kill or injure another using interstate communications. The announcement was made by United States Attorney Carla B. Freedman; Alfred Watson, Acting Special Agent in Charge of the Albany Field Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI); New York State Police Acting Superintendent Dominick L. Chiumento; and Cornell University Police Chief Anthony Bellamy.

The complaint alleges that Dai posted threatening messages to the Cornell section of an online discussion site, including posts calling for the deaths of Jewish people and a post that said “gonna shoot up 104 west.” According to information provided by Cornell University Police and other public information, 104 West is a Cornell University dining hall that caters predominantly to Kosher diets and is located next to the Cornell Jewish Center, which provides residences for Cornell students. In another post, Dai allegedly threatened to “stab” and “slit the throat” of any Jewish males he sees on campus, to rape and throw off a cliff any Jewish females, and to behead any Jewish babies. In that same post, Dai threatened to “bring an assault rifle to campus and shoot all you pig jews.” The charges and the allegations in the complaint are merely accusations. The defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.

The charge filed against Dai carries a maximum term of 5 years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and a term of supervised release of up to 3 years. A defendant’s sentence is imposed by a judge based on the particular statute the defendant is charged with violating, the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other factors.
Dai is expected to make his initial appearance tomorrow in federal court in Syracuse, New York, before a United States Magistrate Judge.

The FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), which includes the New York State Police, is investigating this case along with the Cornell University Police Department and the Ithaca Police Department. The United States Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of New York is prosecuting the case, in conjunction with the Counterterrorism Section of the Department of Justice.
Updated October 31, 2023

Cornell Student Arrested for Making Online Threats to Jewish Students on Campus

www.justice.gov

According to his Linked In, Patrick Dai is a 'safety officer' at Cornell.

 

[katydid23]

I'm sure the U.S. State Department is on the phone with President Erdogan regarding the safety of our service members who are stationed there. I don't think Erdogan would allow anything to happen to our troops. And even though most Turkish citziens won't support this, the guy who is calling for the march will appeal to the radical among the people and there will likely be a good turnout for such a protest. I pray it is only saber rattling and there are no incidents of violence. I can't imagine that anyone but Iran wants escalation of conflict in the region.

I wouldn't put much faith in Erdogon helping the US troops:

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Tuesday that Israel was “completely out of its mind,” accusing it of crimes against humanity over its ongoing war against the Hamas terror group.

Erdogan vowed to bring Jerusalem to justice over “crimes committed in the Gaza Strip,” and accused the United States and Europe of being complicit in them, while making no mention of Hamas’s deadly onslaught on October 7.

Erdogan says Israel ‘completely out of its mind’ in war with Hamas, must be stopped

Turkish president claims Jewish state will face justice over what he says are war crimes committed in Gaza, as he continues to avoid condemning Hamas for October 7 atrocities

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Vern]

Footage from the Rafah checkpoint, through which foreigners began to be allowed into Egypt from Gaza.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719628398509609161

IDF continue to drop leaflets daily over various regions of Gaza.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719665621535781303

Video by Hamzah Masari:Clashes between Hamas terrorists and #IDF forces on 10th street and Ar Rashid street, Tal El Hawa, west of #Gaza

https://twitter.com/x/status/1719664973339590975

 

[Mo Thuairim]

With the earlier reported communications blackout in Gaza it is difficult for journalists to report what is happening on the ground, but at the moment Al Jazeera is carrying news that Jabalia refugee camp in the north of the Gaza Strip has been struck again.

Wael Dahdouh reported for the network that buildings have been levelled after the camp was targeted by Israeli warplanes in what was described as “intense, indiscriminate shelling”.

Al Jazeera reports that hundreds of people are feared to be trapped and buried under the rubble, and that Israel had earlier dropped leaflets telling Palestinians to leave the refugee camp.

Haaretz reports that “footage from the area shows smoke billowing over a compound containing several buildings.”

Israel yesterday said it struck the camp in an attempt to kill local Hamas battalion commander Ibrahim Biari, who it believes was involved in the militant group’s 7 October attacks. AFP witnessed at least 47 bodies being recovered from the scene yesterday.

More details soon …


On reports of the Jabalia refugee camp being struck by Israel for the second consecutive day, Al Jazeera’s Safwat Kahlout, who is in Khan Younis in the south of Gaza, has reported:

The al-Falouja area [where the strike is reported to have been] is one of the most crowded in the Jabalia refugee camp. We are trying to contact sources and our relatives in Jabalia but because of the communications blackout we cannot get more information at this time.

Hamas says 195 killed in two days of strikes on Jabalia camp – as it happened

Hamas says hundreds injured after refugee camp strikes; the US president responded to an anti-war protestor saying he supports a humanitarian ‘pause’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Mo Thuairim]

The BBC has announced that it is launching an emergency radio service for Gaza in response to the conflict in the region.

In a statement the BBC said “It will provide listeners in Gaza with the latest information and developments as well as safety advice on where to access shelter, food and water supplies”, and will initially consist of one bulletin a day on medium wave broadcast at 1500 GMT from Friday.

Hamas says 195 killed in two days of strikes on Jabalia camp – as it happened

Hamas says hundreds injured after refugee camp strikes; the US president responded to an anti-war protestor saying he supports a humanitarian ‘pause’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Mo Thuairim]

Strikes on south Gaza: BBC verifies attacks in areas of ‘safety’​

Since the Israeli military issued the first of several instructions for civilians to evacuate north Gaza, hundreds of thousands of Gazans have moved to the south of the strip. But the south has continued to come under Israeli bombardment, leading the UN and other aid organisations to warn that nowhere in Gaza is safe for civilians.

To better understand the risk to civilians in south Gaza, BBC Verify has identified and analysed four specific instances of strikes in that region. We also looked at some of the warnings and evacuation instructions that were issued to Gazan civilians, including some advising them to move to certain areas in the south.

Some of these warnings were accompanied by maps with arrows pointing to vaguely defined areas to move towards. Three strikes we examined hit within, or close to, those areas in the days after the warnings were issued.

The IDF has said that it communicates with Gaza's residents in a variety of ways, including leaflet drops, social media posts in Arabic, and warnings issued through civilian and international organisations. In this piece we have examined the IDF's instructions posted on social media.

(...)

Strikes on south Gaza: BBC verifies attacks in areas of ‘safety’

The BBC has analysed four strikes in south Gaza, where civilians were told to evacuate to.

www.bbc.com

 

[Mo Thuairim]

Israel's military losses a sign of what may lie ahead​

Jeremy Bowen
International editor, reporting southern Israel

After Israel's strike on the Jabalia refugee camp yesterday, the issue is whether or not it was worth the price - the price being scores of dead Palestinians.

Late last night, I spoke to the surgical director of the local hospital near the camp who said that they received about 400 casualties. Around 120 of them were either dead on arrival or died subsequently very quickly.

Israel says there have been about 11,000 strikes on Gaza since the start of the war. I’m in southern Israel near the border with Gaza, and for days, I’ve been hearing, at times, almost continuous heavy artillery.

You can hear war planes in the sky above racing in for their strikes. When they cross us they are only seconds away from releasing their missiles and hitting Gaza.

The IDF has announced that it has lost 11 of its own men. I think that's a sign of what may lie ahead because they haven't yet tried to enter the really built-up urban areas like Gaza City - which will be a huge military challenge.

The Israeli military is getting close to it, but mostly moving through villages around the city right now.

A few days ago, Hamas ambushed Israeli troops as a convoy entered Gaza. Some men were in what was supposed to be a modern and fairly impregnable troop carrier, which was incinerated by a Russian made anti-tank missile.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-67281166

 

[SouthAussie]

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American Commandos Are in Israel Helping to Locate Hostages, Pentagon Says

The article says that Defense Department officials have stated that the Defense Department has dispatched several dozen commandos in recent weeks to Israel.
The commandos are not assigned to a combat role, and will be assisting the FBI, State Department, U.S. government hostage-recovery specialists, in their discussions with Israeli about a complex fight ahead.

It says that several western countries have secretly moved special teams closer to Israel.

The special forces are there to help with any potential rescue operations and to assist if there are any large scale evacuations of their own citizens.


(Paraphrased, but a free account gives access to their articles)

 

[dotr]

1 Nov 2023

Iran’s Khamenei calls for boycott of Israel amid Gaza bombardment

Iran’s supreme leader wants Muslim countries to stop selling oil and food to Israel, while noting role of US and allies.

www.aljazeera.com

''Iran’s Supreme Leader Ali Hosseini Khamenei has called on Muslim states to cease oil and food exports to Israel, demanding an end to the bombardment of the Gaza Strip.
“The bombings on Gaza must stop immediately … the path of oil and food exports to the Zionist regime should be stopped,” Khamenei said in a speech on Wednesday, according to Iranian state media.'

''He suggested that the “people of Gaza have mobilised the public’s conscience by their patience,” referring to the pro-Palestinian protests around the world.

“Look at what’s happening in the world. In the UK, France, Italy, and the US, many people came out to the street and chanted slogans against Israel and the United States. They have lost their credibility and really, there is no remedy for them as they cannot justify Israel’s attack,” Khamenei said.

“The world of Islam shouldn’t forget in the case of Gaza it was the US, France, and the UK that stood against the oppressed people of Gaza, it wasn’t just the Zionist regime.”

Nov 1, 2023 #israel #gaza #israelhamaswar
Lieutenant Colonel Peter Lerner, a spokesman for the Israel Defence Forces (IDF), has spoken to Sky News about the attack on a refugee camp in Jabaliya in northern Gaza which killed dozens of people. The IDF said it carried out the strike, saying it targeted and killed a Hamas commander named Ibrahim Biari.Lt Col Lerner said the strike caused a building to collapse into the tunnels he and other Hamas militants were operating in, but accepted the civilian casualties are "truly tragic".

 

[Dotta]

"Ambulances entered the Gaza Strip.
The first wounded go to Egypt.



Several dozen Palestinians wounded in Israeli retaliatory actions in the Gaza Strip were brought to Egypt.

Ambulances with the injured passed through the Rafah border crossing, opened for the first time since the start of the war in Israel.

An agreement between Israel, Hamas and Egypt was reached by Qatar in cooperation with the US.

The border between the Gaza Strip and Egypt has been opened to nearly 90 injured Palestinians and about 500 foreigners.

The AFP journalist saw at least 40 ambulances entering the crossing from the Palestinian side, each carrying two injured people.

Egyptian television stations broadcast live the entry of ambulances into Egypt through Rafah, which is the only Gaza border crossing not controlled by Israel, but by Egypt.

According to SkyNews, there was a queue of dozens of Egyptian ambulances at the crossing on the Egyptian side to help.

Reuters reports that hundreds of people gathered in Rafah waiting to leave the Gaza Strip.

According to Al-Jazeera, the situation at the crossing is very chaotic as many people who are not on the list are trying to leave.
Some of them have been waiting for a chance to leave the Zone for weeks.

On the Egyptian side of the border, Palestinian wounded are being transferred from Palestinian to Egyptian ambulances, which will then take them to hospitals in Egypt.

Egyptian television reported that the injured would be taken to the provincial hospital in Sheikh Zueid, several kilometers away from Rafah, to the hospital in Al-Arish and - in the case of the most seriously injured - to Cairo."

Przełom w Strefie Gazy. Karetki zabierają rannych do Egiptu

Kliknij i zobacz więcej.

wydarzenia.interia.pl

From my country's MSM

 

[Dotta]

"Pro-Palestine vandals smash windows of Starbucks​

and release stick insects and mice inside four McDonald's​

in spree of attacks in Yorkshire and Birmingham after calls for branches to be targeted over 'support for Israel'.​

The attacks follow calls to boycott Starbucks and McDonald's following claims they have backed Israel amid the crisis. Last month, Starbucks sued its union, Starbucks Workers United, after the labour organisation posted a since-deleted message on X expressing solidarity with Palestinians.

And in Israel, a local McDonald's operator offered discounts to soldiers, security forces -
sparking a pro-Palestine backlash."

Pro-Palestine vandals smash windows of a Starbucks in Yorkshire

In an attack on a McDonald's franchise, in Keighley, Yorkshire, thugs draped in the red, white, green and black Palestinian flag released stick insects into the restaurant.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[PommyMommy]

3hr ago

Karhi: Decision to shut down Al Jazeera in Israel awaits defense minister’s approval; Gallant: No objections​

[...]

He noted that the decision to close down the Qatari news channel, which Karhi accuses of harming Israeli national security and inciting terrorism, requires the defense minister’s approval before it can be brought to a vote in the security cabinet.

“This issue is at the door of the defense minister, after his approval, which we are yet to receive, the request will be brought to the security cabinet for approval,” the hardline communications minister says.

Karhi alleges during his comments in the Knesset that Al Jazeera has “photographed and published” the positioning of IDF forces, “broadcast military announcements by Hamas,” and “distorted facts in a way which incited masses of people to riot.”

A statement put out by Gallant’s office immediately following the debate in Knesset, says that “despite what has been claimed, the defense minister supports restricting the broadcasts and activities of the Al Jazeera station immediately.”

 

[PommyMommy]

2hr ago

Pharmaceutical giant Eli Lilly donates mobile intensive care units to Magen David Adom​

The multinational pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly has donated to Israel’s Magen David Adom rescue and emergency medical service three intensive care mobile units and two advanced monitoring systems. The donation is valued at half a million dollars.

These ICU mobile units and advanced monitors will boost MDA’s ability to save lives as its employees and volunteers work around the clock during the war.

2hr ago

Magen David Adom says over 600 liters of breastmilk provided since start of war​

Magen David Adom National Human Milk Bank announces that since the start of the Israel-Hamas war on October 7, it has provided over 600 liters of breast milk to premature babies and babies whose mothers have been killed, abducted, or injured, or who have been called up to military duty.

Some 900 women who had not previously donated to the bank signed up to do so. Around 200 of them have already donated, and the rest are in various stages of application and will begin donating soon.

According to the milk bank’s director Dr. Sharron Bransburg-Zabary, 1,000 more liters of mother’s milk will need to be gathered and properly processed to meet the expected needs of the upcoming few weeks.

 

[PommyMommy]

54min ago

Lawmakers watch footage of Oct.7 Hamas atrocities during Knesset screening​

Lawmakers are currently watching a compilation of raw footage documenting Hamas’s October 7 rampage throughout southern Israel.

The 43-minute-long video was produced by the IDF Spokesperson’s Office and was previously screened to foreign journalists in Israel.

After a request made by Knesset Speaker Amir Ohana to the military, lawmakers were granted permission to hold a closed-door screening of the footage.

49min ago

Health Ministry opens helpline for medical needs of those evacuated, displaced​

It is estimated that between 150,000 and 200,000 Israelis from the north and south of the country are staying in hotels, hostels, kibbutz guest houses and even tent cities.

The help center aims to ensure that every displaced person has their medical needs attended to while they are away from their home community.

The help center will provide information on how and where to obtain various health care services, based on the person’s location. If a person’s specific needs cannot be met by the available services, a special Health Ministry command center dealing with the needs of the displaced will come up with the appropriate solutions.

 

[AliceInPain]

So my first thought was "No! Not stick insects!" (I read about the mice yesterday).

I think if someone has no respect for animal life they have no respect for ANY life and should be put on a desert island far away from all other living beings.

Was also wondering where they got the little guys from? Is one of these running a shady pet shop that needs to be looked into? I know some people buy mice as snake food, but hundreds of them? Surely a normal person would ask questions...

 

[Simply Southern]

What a crock !!!!

Americans cut out of deal to be released!!!

Unbelievable our government. would broker a deal that does NOT include Americans!!
What a slap in the face from terrorist, the UN, and the US representative that agreed to this deal.

I noticed yesterday, in a tweet, the US was not on the list. NBC Today Show stated US Citizens were in the group being released.

What a sneaky cover up. We give and give, money, aid, troops, 1/3 of the entire UN support. Can't even get the Red Crescent to verify the hostages, as per UN and Geneva Convention.

I'm just sick over this and it is greatly changing my views.
Moo

Live updates: Israel-Hamas war, crisis in Gaza, crowds gather at Rafah crossing

Crowds gathered at the Rafah crossing between Gaza and Egypt on Wednesday, as multiple sources told CNN that up to 500 foreign nationals could be allowed to flee the besieged enclave. Follow for live updates.

www.cnn.com

• Up to 500 foreigners could also cross from Gaza into Egypt under a Qatar-mediated deal, multiple sources told CNN. Americans are not expected to be among the first group of foreigners potentially allowed to leave Gaza, an official told CNN.

 

[PommyMommy]

Live updates: Israel-Hamas war, crisis in Gaza, crowds gather at Rafah crossing (cnn.com)
23 min ago

Release of foreigners from Gaza is entirely separate from hostage negotiations, sources stress​

The deal to release foreigners from Gaza into Egypt is not part of any potential deal to secure the release of hostages being held by Hamas, multiple sources emphasize to CNN.

Those talks are still ongoing and one US official said they would caution against drawing any comparisons between the two parallel missions.

But the reality is that the players involved in both negotiations are the same: Israel, Egypt, Qatar, Hamas and the US. But as this US official stressed, the agreement announced today does not include any component that would prompt the release of hostages at a later time, for example.

11 min ago

First group of dual nationals arrives in Egypt from Gaza, Egyptian state-affiliated media reports​

Egyptian state-affiliated Al-Qahera news reported on Wednesday that the first group of dual nationals has arrived in Egypt from Gaza after going through the Rafah border crossing.

Additionally, Al-Arish Hospital in Egypt has begun receiving injured Palestinians coming from the Gaza Strip, according to Al-Qahera news.