lawman said:thanks bluecrab, myself i believe your second scenario is on the right track.perhaps someone will confess someday.
lawman
tipper said:Didn't ST say that Patsy was the only one in the house that night who couldn't be cleared by the handwriting experts? That would suggest Burke's handwriting was cleared
Hi Blue Crab,BlueCrab said:lawman,
A confession would be a nice and tidy ending to this mystery, but please don't hold your breath waiting for one. It won't happen. IMO this crime will eventually be solved by the weight of the evidence.
As you likely know, my number one suspect in this murder is BR -- and my number two suspect is JAR. It had to be either BR or JAR, or both, or the parents wouldn't be lying their heads off and refusing to cooperate with the investigation in their obvious coverup of the crime.
Boulder authorities have consistently refused to clear BR. Why?
In regard to the writer of the ransom note, please remember that BR could not be eliminated as the writer by the CBI's handwriting experts. Why don't the authorities release the official results of BR's handwriting analyses? And why are the Boulder authorities, the courts, and the media, involved in a conspiratorial effort to try to make the public believe a convoluted theory about an intruder killing JonBenet -- while completely ignoring a ton of compelling evidence that points to a Ramsey as the killer?
Answer: Children are likely involved in the murder and by Colorado law the behaviors among the authorities, the courts, and the media reflect the only courses of action they can take -- other than staying quiet. But by staying quiet, John and Patsy are left hanging out to dry. Thus, they've gotta pin the crime on an imaginary intruder in an effort to bring the case to a close.
IOW, if JAR and BR were both involved, and the Boulder authorities, the courts and the media have their way, then a 20-year-old killer walks free and JonBenet never receives justice.
BlueCrab
Well, hold on Capps. I didn't say it could not have happened. In fact..what I said was; if there was a way to crack JAR's alibi...THEN...we're off to the races. (parapharasing)capps said:But, currently, there's no (known) evidence that places JAR in Boulder at the time of the murder. There's also no law that would have protected him either..regardless of how hard the Ramseys might have tried to do so.
Daisy,
That's a very good statement ... and one I was trying to get across on one of my previous posts on a different thread.
I don't buy that JAR may have been tutoring others kids either. I can't imagine JAR saying to BR "Come on,lets stun gun your sister,and then drag her down stairs to the basement,and I'll show you (but won't participate) how to apply EA to her." I can't see that happening ... not with a 9 yr old who I believe is more interested in his new Nintendo.
And even if by some slim chance this did occur,JAR would still be part of that crime.As Daisy stated ... there is no way the law would look the other way.
Miss Daisey said:The above theory makes sense but what about the DNA under JB's fingernails and on her undies? Neither are a match to a Ramsey.
Does Patsy still speak to her sister??? Knowing that the sister knows who killed JBR---her precious? Were there any known repercussions from this statement?? I am new to the details of this case.BlueCrab said:Miss Daisey,
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Like Pam Paugh, Patsy's sister, said to Greta VanSustern years ago on live TV, "I know who killed JonBenet. There were two of them, but I don't know which one did it." How would Pam know that unless she was talking about one or more Ramseys?
BlueCrab
A "hit man"? hmmmmmmmmBlueCrab said:Miss Daisey,
IMO the DNA in the panties is that of the killer, but that doesn't let JAR off the hook. If JAR was trying to silence JonBenet because she was about to tell on him about being sexually abused, JAR would not have done it himself. He would have likely hired a hit man. Therefore, in that scenario the unidentified foreign male DNA in her panties would be from the hit man.
BlueCrab
Miss Daisey said:Well, hold on Capps. I didn't say it could not have happened. In fact..what I said was; if there was a way to crack JAR's alibi...THEN...we're off to the races. (parapharasing)
I still think, given the lack of (known) evidence naming a family member as a suspect, there's still the question of an intruder.
Think about it: Until Poly Klaus and Jessica Lunsford (and others) were victims in a case where the perp actually invaded the home...it was Unheard of !!!!! But go back a few decades...there was the case of Valerie Persey where her parents were sleeping down the hall...her step-mother awakened by a sound of moans from Valerie. Her step-mother actually SAW the killer...and stilll...they've never arrested anyone in the case and that was in the 70's.
There's a way to invade any home...including my own which is equiped w/an alarm system and built like a fortress. But, I know a way to get in without setting off the alarm. If I know it, someone intent on doing me or mine harm, can do it too. (not saying the alarm was set in the Ramsey home. By all accounts, it wasn't...making invasion easier)
There's a possibily, IMO, that JonBenet's murder was a killing of revenge, given the sadist nature. Forget about the family. If one starts looking in (intruder) direction, there's as much evidence for that theory as there is a lack of evidence toward the Ramseys.
I'm not trying to blow anyone's theory out of the water. There's enough evidence and lack of evidence for this case to go in any direction.
Miss Daisey said:A "hit man"? hmmmmmmmm
IMO, if JAR was going to silence JonBenet he'd have done it himself and that would be HIS DNA in her undies...and it isn't HIS. The DNA doesn't belong to a Ramsey. So.....who's is it?...his alibi buddies?
Blue Crab, do you really believe a 20yr old college student....with no money to call his own....could hire a hit man to kill his little sister to shut her up? I'd sooner believe the theory of BR and his kid friend down the street..w/both sets of parents covering it up than that.
One thing I do believe: An adult did this murder. Maybe BR saw that person..knew about him being in the house..even told him where the front door key was located. But the hit man theory???? No.
I'm looking at an intruder theory. Someone who really had it out for John Ramsey (or simply someone who read the newspapers and knew about and possibly stalked JonBenet) and probably already knew the amount of his bonus...spent a few hours in the house before they came home on Christmas night w/ plenty of time to fashion a ranson note that pointed streight at the Ramseys...and walked streight out the front door...which locked behind him. No sign of entry or exit. PERFECT !!! And nobody is ever going to prove otherwise. IMO
Trust me, capps....I don't recall reading your post on that thread but we're all bound to reach the same conclusions...sooner or later, don't you agree?capps said:Daisey,
Sounds a little like my (still working on) theory that I posted on the "Is The Ransom Note Relevant" thread.
So, maybe Barnhill saw the "boyfriend" (or someone else who looked like JR) and thought it was JAR going into the Ramsay home early in the evening of Dec 25.Toltec said:That does look like JAR in the photo of the dec 23d Christmas party but it turned out to be a boyfriend of one of Priscilla's sisters.
Someone molested JonBenet on the 23d, but who? An adult or a child?
Were the kids playing Doctor in the basement? How many male children were at the party?